Do people really view certain jobs as beneath them?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that's why farmers are having trouble getting enough labor to harvest fruits and vegetables now that illegal immigration has slowed. Non-immigrants aren't willing to do the work.

I've also heard plenty of parents on here suggest that a retail or food service job is beneath their teens who should instead be spending all their time on more prestigious activities.

No, they're having trouble because it's backbreaking, physical labor done in full sun. No one wants to do it. They could find more people if they raised the hourly rates, but farmers are still skeptical they'd find enough. Not to mention the price of food would have to increase to a point that might affect the overall economy.

The Trump kind are right about one thing: importing cheap labor has kept American wages suppressed. They're calling us on our hypocrisy. Are you willing to buy a $10 gallon of milk produced by well-paid citizens with benefits? Because that's what it will take to find Americans willing to do physically uncomfortable jobs.

Agree with this. They can't find people willing to do the job for the low wage they want to pay people to do it.

Our entire economic system it seems to be based off of wanting cheap goods and cheap labor.

Yup. Outside of super-expensive urban centers, everyone, at every income level, assumes that everyone needs a bedroom, all drivers need a car, when you need a tv, computer, etc., you should just get one, all homes have central air/heat, "shopping" should be a recreational activity, clothes, furniture, home gadgets should all be available when we want them. Even the shift to "experiences" vs. stuff runs on the idea that everyone should be able to get tickets to this that or the other, and have the gas to get there, the money to eat out, the phone to record it all ...

If we went back to what consumer goods really cost in the 1950s, say, many of us would feel very deprived. We've built an economy out of disposable goods and restaurants. I think it will be very, very difficult to raise wages sufficiently because Americans will protest loudly when prices go up significantly. It would also slow down consumer spending.

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I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

No kidding? The generic non organic at Teeter is $4/gallon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

NP and Wegmans non-organic 1% is $2.27 a gallon, whole milk is $2.59 a gallon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

No kidding? The generic non organic at Teeter is $4/gallon.

You must like getting ripped off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

No kidding? The generic non organic at Teeter is $4/gallon.

You must like getting ripped off.

The milk at H Teets is definitely overpriced (especially as their non-organic milk tastes like shit).

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

No kidding? The generic non organic at Teeter is $4/gallon.

You must like getting ripped off.

The milk at H Teets is definitely overpriced (especially as their non-organic milk tastes like shit).

I think everything at H Teets is overpriced. I see no reason to ever shop there.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

No kidding? The generic non organic at Teeter is $4/gallon.

You must like getting ripped off.

The milk at H Teets is definitely overpriced (especially as their non-organic milk tastes like shit).

The CPI says the national average is somewhere around $3.25, so the conclusion is that H Teet is totes overpriced, and Wegmans is crazy low.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

No kidding? The generic non organic at Teeter is $4/gallon.

You must like getting ripped off.

The milk at H Teets is definitely overpriced (especially as their non-organic milk tastes like shit).

I think everything at H Teets is overpriced. I see no reason to ever shop there.

Well when your only other option is Safeway...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that you can raise wages of farm workers considerably without the price of milk going to $10 per gallon.

Milk is about $2.50 per gallon now. Simple economic logic suggests that you could DOUBLE the current wages of farm workers, and let's even entertain the ridiculous assumption that 100% of the cost of milk is due to labor. Even then, which is a ridiculous scenario, it would be $5 per gallon.

More likely, you could double the wages of farm workers and it might go from $2.50 to $3.25, at most.

$2.50?

Where do you buy milk?

No kidding? The generic non organic at Teeter is $4/gallon.

You must like getting ripped off.

The milk at H Teets is definitely overpriced (especially as their non-organic milk tastes like shit).

The CPI says the national average is somewhere around $3.25, so the conclusion is that H Teet is totes overpriced, and Wegmans is crazy low.

I think the milk at Wegmans is a loss leader for them, it's one of the staples that gets people in the door then you get sucked in by the specialty cheese section and end up blowing an extra $20 on brie and chevre you don't need.

[Anonymous]

I don't think that I've ever considered a job to be beneath me. I worked plenty of low pay retail/restaurant/telemarketing jobs when I was younger. And I also did my fair share of babysitting, dog poop scooping and lawn mowing.

There are jobs that I simply could not do because they are unbearably gross to me.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think certain jobs are beneath me, but I do think certain tasks and roles are an inefficient use of my skills and experience. I make $85/hr but for the purposes of hiring out services, I value my time at $60/hr.

Here are a few examples -
1. I hire people to clean my house and take care of my lawn. It’s not that those jobs are below me. It’s that professionals can do it faster and better than me. I would rather spend my time with my kids.

2. I am an executive at a consulting consulting company. Submitting a lunch order, reserving meeting rooms, compiling data, and editing presentations are not below me. However they are not the best use of my time. It is better for a junior person to learn how to do those things AND for me to spend my time making decisions or giving strategic direction to a project. I do get my own coffee and refill the supplies or copy paper when I see it is low - I’m not an asshole.

3. I don’t volunteer for “paint a fence” “sort canned goods” type volunteer events unless I am doing it to teach my kids or as part of a team-building event. Non-profits do not need me scooping beans. As an experienced project manager, I can be helpful in other ways. This is why I seek out skills based volunteering instead of “any warm body will do” volunteer events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course. My brother is on the brink of homelessness because he won't just got get a job at target.

Ha! I have one of those too!

McDonald's, Walmart, Target, and Sheetz, which are all within walking distance to his apartment and hiring, are all beneath him. Instead he bums rides, scrapes together cab fare, or texts me to order him an Uber (when really desperate) to get to a job in the next town over where he's only getting ~20 hours/week because that's where all his friends work.

[Anonymous]

Of course OP! People work hard in school and avoid getting into legal trouble so they don't have to be a janitor or something similar.