Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle

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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.


I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.



Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.


I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.


Please. We have Trump because the establishment, a bipartisan group, has massively failed the populace. Endless and moronic Middle East wars, financial perfidy, and a general disregard for most Americans lead a substantial number of people to be willing to roll the dice on Trump. Everything else is just noise from the political class.



This.

I voted for Obama the first time. Sat out 2012 in frustration and disgust, and voted Trump this time. Proudly.


If you voted proudly for someone who is on tape bragging about "grabbing pussies", mocking disabled people and attacking Gold Star parents, I feel sorry for you.
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Anonymous wrote:1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.



Would you prefer he caucuses with the senate republicans instead, then?

We might as well lose something ELSE with your blunt, stupid, party-or-nothing outlook


My point on the party thing is that why do you expect the DNC to support a non-democrat?

Would you expect the RNC to support a member of the Libertarian Party? I wouldn't.




Party over country! Party over people! All hail the party!


I know you're a conservative sh!t-stirrer posting here just to troll people like me.... but I grudgingly admit you're right about that.


Sorry, I'm a registered Dem in a super blue area. I just think we can do massively better and prefer laughing about our situation to crying about it.


I am a conservative and this is what I think happened.....
The DNC was all in for Hillary. Brazile’s piece makes that clear. Neither the Hillary camp, nor the DNC, anticipated the Bernie wave. They did not anticipate his popularity. But, as other posters have put it..... they HAD to have him run as a Dem for fear of a third party candidate. They gave him half-hearted “support;” just enough to not appear to be biased and enough to keep him on the Dem ticket. But, they didn’t really support him at all. They couldn’t have the Democratic party move as far left as Bernie because they would lose donors and votes.
So, Bernie took them by surprise. The other candidates were probably recruited to run by Dems, just to make it look like it was a race. But, they chose really weak, ineffective candidates to run... and notice, they were all white males. This was intentional, because remember.... the DNC was all in for Hillary.


I'm the registered Dem who joked about putting loyalty to the party above the country and the people. I agree with you. It's a sad state of things!
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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.


Did Bernie Sanders ever release his tax returns?
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Anonymous wrote:1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.



Would you prefer he caucuses with the senate republicans instead, then?

We might as well lose something ELSE with your blunt, stupid, party-or-nothing outlook


My point on the party thing is that why do you expect the DNC to support a non-democrat?

Would you expect the RNC to support a member of the Libertarian Party? I wouldn't.




Party over country! Party over people! All hail the party!


I know you're a conservative sh!t-stirrer posting here just to troll people like me.... but I grudgingly admit you're right about that.


Sorry, I'm a registered Dem in a super blue area. I just think we can do massively better and prefer laughing about our situation to crying about it.


I am a conservative and this is what I think happened.....
The DNC was all in for Hillary. Brazile’s piece makes that clear. Neither the Hillary camp, nor the DNC, anticipated the Bernie wave. They did not anticipate his popularity. But, as other posters have put it..... they HAD to have him run as a Dem for fear of a third party candidate. They gave him half-hearted “support;” just enough to not appear to be biased and enough to keep him on the Dem ticket. But, they didn’t really support him at all. They couldn’t have the Democratic party move as far left as Bernie because they would lose donors and votes.
So, Bernie took them by surprise. The other candidates were probably recruited to run by Dems, just to make it look like it was a race. But, they chose really weak, ineffective candidates to run... and notice, they were all white males. This was intentional, because remember.... the DNC was all in for Hillary.


And this is how you manage to lose an election to an orange clown.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.


I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.



Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.


I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.


Please. We have Trump because the establishment, a bipartisan group, has massively failed the populace. Endless and moronic Middle East wars, financial perfidy, and a general disregard for most Americans lead a substantial number of people to be willing to roll the dice on Trump. Everything else is just noise from the political class.



This.

I voted for Obama the first time. Sat out 2012 in frustration and disgust, and voted Trump this time. Proudly.


If you voted proudly for someone who is on tape bragging about "grabbing pussies", mocking disabled people and attacking Gold Star parents, I feel sorry for you.


Not to mention, I can't respect anyone who "sits out" any election.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.


I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.



Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.


I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.


Please. We have Trump because the establishment, a bipartisan group, has massively failed the populace. Endless and moronic Middle East wars, financial perfidy, and a general disregard for most Americans lead a substantial number of people to be willing to roll the dice on Trump. Everything else is just noise from the political class.



This.

I voted for Obama the first time. Sat out 2012 in frustration and disgust, and voted Trump this time. Proudly.


If you voted proudly for someone who is on tape bragging about "grabbing pussies", mocking disabled people and attacking Gold Star parents, I feel sorry for you.


Tell me how many women in the Middle East are dead because of Hillary (and BHO and GWB), how many women in those same places have had their lives ruined by those same three and their associates, and how many womens' lives were ruined by the financial sector in this country, aided in no small measure by HRC? Almost certainly many orders of magnitude more than Trump has grabbed.

People might be wrong to have voted for Trump (I did NOT and I'm not the immediate PP), but HRC's defenders need to see her for what she is and put into perspective that talk of grabbing women.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.


I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.



Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.


I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.


Please. We have Trump because the establishment, a bipartisan group, has massively failed the populace. Endless and moronic Middle East wars, financial perfidy, and a general disregard for most Americans lead a substantial number of people to be willing to roll the dice on Trump. Everything else is just noise from the political class.



This.

I voted for Obama the first time. Sat out 2012 in frustration and disgust, and voted Trump this time. Proudly.


If you voted proudly for someone who is on tape bragging about "grabbing pussies", mocking disabled people and attacking Gold Star parents, I feel sorry for you.


Not to mention, I can't respect anyone who "sits out" any election.


Lack of empathy will help you get very far!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.


I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.



Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.


I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.


Please. We have Trump because the establishment, a bipartisan group, has massively failed the populace. Endless and moronic Middle East wars, financial perfidy, and a general disregard for most Americans lead a substantial number of people to be willing to roll the dice on Trump. Everything else is just noise from the political class.



This.

I voted for Obama the first time. Sat out 2012 in frustration and disgust, and voted Trump this time. Proudly.


If you voted proudly for someone who is on tape bragging about "grabbing pussies", mocking disabled people and attacking Gold Star parents, I feel sorry for you.


DP. Hillary attacked the victims of Bill’s sexual predation. I feel sorry for you if you champion women who attack other women who have been sexually assaulted or harassed.

(Or we could just not play this game because both sides have unclean hands.)
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Anonymous wrote:I don't have time to read this all now, but just so I can put this in context.....is this the media person who snuck a debate question to Hillary?


She mentioned a possible question in an email stolen by the russians. It was likely a question the HRC campaign had already thought of themselves. They do prepare.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't have time to read this all now, but just so I can put this in context.....is this the media person who snuck a debate question to Hillary?


She mentioned a possible question in an email stolen by the russians. It was likely a question the HRC campaign had already thought of themselves. They do prepare.


Im not reading it because the author lost all credibility sneaking debate questions to Clinton before debate.
Anonymous
Did Bernie Sanders ever release his tax returns during the Democratic primaries? I asked this previously but didn't get a response. (Sorry, my memory is hazy.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did Bernie Sanders ever release his tax returns during the Democratic primaries? I asked this previously but didn't get a response. (Sorry, my memory is hazy.)


Look over there! It's a bird!
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Anonymous wrote:Did Bernie Sanders ever release his tax returns during the Democratic primaries? I asked this previously but didn't get a response. (Sorry, my memory is hazy.)


Let me google that for you!

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-tax-return-222041
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Anonymous wrote:1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.



Would you prefer he caucuses with the senate republicans instead, then?

We might as well lose something ELSE with your blunt, stupid, party-or-nothing outlook


My point on the party thing is that why do you expect the DNC to support a non-democrat?

Would you expect the RNC to support a member of the Libertarian Party? I wouldn't.




Party over country! Party over people! All hail the party!


I know you're a conservative sh!t-stirrer posting here just to troll people like me.... but I grudgingly admit you're right about that.


Sorry, I'm a registered Dem in a super blue area. I just think we can do massively better and prefer laughing about our situation to crying about it.


I am a conservative and this is what I think happened.....
The DNC was all in for Hillary. Brazile’s piece makes that clear. Neither the Hillary camp, nor the DNC, anticipated the Bernie wave. They did not anticipate his popularity. But, as other posters have put it..... they HAD to have him run as a Dem for fear of a third party candidate. They gave him half-hearted “support;” just enough to not appear to be biased and enough to keep him on the Dem ticket. But, they didn’t really support him at all. They couldn’t have the Democratic party move as far left as Bernie because they would lose donors and votes.
So, Bernie took them by surprise. The other candidates were probably recruited to run by Dems, just to make it look like it was a race. But, they chose really weak, ineffective candidates to run... and notice, they were all white males. This was intentional, because remember.... the DNC was all in for Hillary.


Yes the chubby stepsister had to squash the white male who found princesses he preferred, even they were not as qualified to be princess
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Desperate for controversy to hawk boring book I'd bet was ghost written. yawn.
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