Soccer ,,Travel Team Colors & Designations

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PWSI - NPL (pre-npl), red, white, black

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You people are crazy. I've wondered about some of the teams we play as well, I never posted here asking, but I don't see the harm of ranking the colors just so you know who is in your bracket during a tournament.

OP, no worries...Lots of idiots telling you are going overboard and a crazy soccer parent. Yet, they read and reread this post over and over.

I wish they would just go 1st, 2nd, 3rd, teams but in 2017, that would not be PC.

Loudoun
Red, Black, White

SYA
Red, White, Black

Arlington
Red, white, blue

McLean
Green, white, gold

DC Stoddert
Blue, red, white

You can thank me later, but what I just did is admit that I'm a CCL parent and they will attack the league now! BTW, we were in a tournament last weekend and noticed a ton of "1st" teams playing down into lower brackets in an effort to take home metals. Glad to see a few of them getting taken out of medal running.

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Anonymous wrote:You people are crazy. I've wondered about some of the teams we play as well, I never posted here asking, but I don't see the harm of ranking the colors just so you know who is in your bracket during a tournament.

OP, no worries...Lots of idiots telling you are going overboard and a crazy soccer parent. Yet, they read and reread this post over and over.

I wish they would just go 1st, 2nd, 3rd, teams but in 2017, that would not be PC.

Loudoun
Red, Black, White

SYA
Red, White, Black

Arlington
Red, white, blue

McLean
Green, white, gold

DC Stoddert
Blue, red, white

You can thank me later, but what I just did is admit that I'm a CCL parent and they will attack the league now! BTW, we were in a tournament last weekend and noticed a ton of "1st" teams playing down into lower brackets in an effort to take home metals. Glad to see a few of them getting taken out of medal running.

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Glad we are not all crazy trolls on this board - it is some peoples pastime to troll these boards just to set people off - don't respond to Trolls.

I agree that 1st teams should not be playing down if they are competitive in that division. Our situation was that our 2nd team was playing in a low bracket - but it was still competitive division with teams from Ohio, PA, NJ, etc.... The top team "borrowed" some of our best players, which is why I think our 2nd team was playing lower than it should have.

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Don't make assumptions. Our 1st team from a strong club truly belongs in the 2nd division of tournaments. Their games were all competitive (they went 1-1-1) but they didn't make the finals despite playing in the second division. Sometimes that placement makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't make assumptions. Our 1st team from a strong club truly belongs in the 2nd division of tournaments. Their games were all competitive (they went 1-1-1) but they didn't make the finals despite playing in the second division. Sometimes that placement makes sense.

I agree. Particularly because you have 'easy' leagues in this area. Some CCL teams don't stand a chance against some of the MD and PA teams that come in for tournaments. In that case, a 2nd tier makes sense.

Our first team usually plays up an entire age group. Not all Clubs just care about 'got soccer'.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't make assumptions. Our 1st team from a strong club truly belongs in the 2nd division of tournaments. Their games were all competitive (they went 1-1-1) but they didn't make the finals despite playing in the second division. Sometimes that placement makes sense.

I agree. Particularly because you have 'easy' leagues in this area. Some CCL teams don't stand a chance against some of the MD and PA teams that come in for tournaments. In that case, a 2nd tier makes sense.

Our first team usually plays up an entire age group. Not all Clubs just care about 'got soccer'.

I'm not going to get into an debate of CCL teams belonging in top tier, but I think if you claim to be the elite team playing in an elite league such as CCL then you should be competing in that top tier. If you do well, then you have proven your point, if not then at least you know where you need to make improvements. As with most clubs, sometimes you just hit a sweet spot with an age group where it just works. Right players, right coaches, etc. I'll take a good loss over a BS win any day.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't make assumptions. Our 1st team from a strong club truly belongs in the 2nd division of tournaments. Their games were all competitive (they went 1-1-1) but they didn't make the finals despite playing in the second division. Sometimes that placement makes sense.

I agree. Particularly because you have 'easy' leagues in this area. Some CCL teams don't stand a chance against some of the MD and PA teams that come in for tournaments. In that case, a 2nd tier makes sense.

Our first team usually plays up an entire age group. Not all Clubs just care about 'got soccer'.

I'm not going to get into an debate of CCL teams belonging in top tier, but I think if you claim to be the elite team playing in an elite league such as CCL then you should be competing in that top tier. If you do well, then you have proven your point, if not then at least you know where you need to make improvements. As with most clubs, sometimes you just hit a sweet spot with an age group where it just works. Right players, right coaches, etc. I'll take a good loss over a BS win any day.

A lot of those teams lose big in the first division and many of the competitive tournaments (at least for older kids) require an application, results and vetting and match the teams to brackets accordingly.

For little kids, it's just a crapshoot.

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Anonymous wrote:McLean CCL is green, CCL2 is white

How about Fredericksburg. Is Red CCL2?

yes, Black is 1 and Red is 2

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Each club handles it differently check with the individual club.

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Anonymous wrote:This much emotional investment when your kid is 9...going to be a tough road ahead for you, and even more so for your poor kid. Seriously, it's bad enough to care about this stuff in your OWN club. If you care about the team rankings in other clubs, you need a new hobby.

"Is that Bethesda's B team or D team?" is a legitimate question. Particularly when you have a coach who tends to get your team in a bracket that's either too high or too low for its current ability level.

Also, on a pragmatic level, this sort of information-sharing helps us shut down the trash-talking idiots who come here and say Club X can't be that good because his DS's team just beat their team.

Agree. It's also just generally useful to get to know what the local soccer scene looks like so you can make informed decisions about your child's path as you go along. Same reason it's good to talk to parents of other teams at games and tournaments. The more connected you feel, the more likely you are to want to put in the time needed to support your kid. Plus it makes it more fun. I feel really sorry for people like the PP who smugly assume that their narrow view is the only right one.

No need to feel sorry for me. I don't feel sorry for those of you who spend your free time figuring out the color rankings of other teams in your league, but I do think, after years of experience, that you're all a little crazy. If your heart is going to get broken when your gold/silver/blue/brown kid is moved down a level, or give him a hard time when he loses to the wrong-level team, or try to gear him up with a lot of extra sleep and some extra agility training in the backyard because ohmigod he's playing a higher level team this week, then you're WAY overly invested in your child's hobby, and everyone around you, including your kid's coach, sees it. Your own kid will point it out to you when he's 12 if you don't freak him/her out too much and scare her from bringing it up. Happened to me as a child (my mom was NUTS about the sport she had me playing, sounding just like many of you), and I won't let it happen to my own kids.

My boys have played at all levels of travel soccer in a big club here. They've moved up and down. They're good players and they love soccer, but neither is the next Messi, nor is anyone they've ever played with or against. They're a bunch of nice kids spending their free time playing a great sport, which is better than spending their free time playing Call of Duty. That's it!

I love these tired posts in soccer threads. This is almost the Godwin's law of soccer discussion threads. No matter what simple question about soccer there is it always ends up with some bore making a comment like "I feel sorry for these parents who think they have the next Messi or Alex Morgan".

Jesus all somebody did was ask what the order clubs use to designate their A, B, C etc teams and you think that means they are freaking out or believe their kid is Messi. Your post is about as original as butter on toast.

As is this thread, which is one of the crazier helicopter soccer parent topics on this forum. Crazy parents busily ranking other people's kids and screaming on the sidelines. The coaches can't stand any of you, and everyone feels sorry for your kids, but at least you all find some company here. The Bethesda-whatever-color U12 team couldn't beat a pickup team of Uruguayan 6-year-olds, but hey, at least it keeps you busy.

Someone asked about colors, nobody discussed rankings. You’re the only person who brought it up. It was a pretty innocent question that managed to warp into crazy topic.

Guys, seriously, in travel/select soccer all that matters is the A-B team and C-D team. If you have anything after the 4th team, have your child practice on their own, go to rec as well, or have another club take a look at your child. Even the coaches know they are coaching the 5th and lower teams and their effort will show. For A-B team, the kids are probably same level and a decision needed to be made; for C-D team for the most part these kids will never get a second look at the same club and if you want your child to play at a higher level than you have to switch clubs. Even the new kids that are on the cusp will be placed on the B team as opposed to being sent to a lower team.

In U13 and up, if everybody sticks around, mostly A team players go somewhere else(DA, EDP teams) and B and C players make up the first team with a few from A that stuck around and if there are enough left some B-C-D team players make up the second team. For most clubs around U16 there is usually only one team left and this is mainly average B-C-D team players as they are the only ones that don't do HS, DA, Natl team, EDP, R1 or as teenager decided to give it up after 6+years. The colors only matter in U9-U11.

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Anyone know SAC?

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What about the colors for Valor?

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Anonymous wrote:What about the colors for Valor?

1st Team: Pre/ECNL-RL
2nd Team: Gold
3rd Team: White
4th Team: Black
5th Team: Silver

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Anonymous wrote:What about the colors for Valor?

U9 and U10: gold, white, black, silver, blue

U11 and up: pre ECNL RL or just ECNL RL, gold, white, black, silver