Does anyone here actually send their kid to Hayfield/Edison/West Potomac/5 or lower GS high schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

[Anonymous]

We pupil placed our DC to SLHS which is GS-5 from a much higher GS school. DC ended up at TJ (pupil placement forms were due before TJ decisions came out) so we didn't get to see how it turned out. But, I still think that for this particular kid and that particular school (great IB program and strong all around academically kid who loves to write) it would have worked. I did a ton of research, and it has a school within a school thing going on and about 100 kids a year getting the full IB diploma. So, I wasn't worried about peer group. In fact, SLHSs average SATs beat several more highly thought of HSs, like W. Springfield. They just have a large ESL population, and that subgroup tends to fail SOLs. But, the other subgroup is very high achieving. And once you get out of PE, they don't overlap in their classes.

I wouldn't make a call based on GS scores alone. You need to understand the dynamics of the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

Revealing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

Revealing

Revealing that people value meanlingless information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

Revealing

Revealing that people value meanlingless information.

Meaningless to those who shut their eyes to the facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

Revealing

Revealing that people value meanlingless information.

Meaningless to those who shut their eyes to the facts.

It's lazy. Lazy lazy lazy. Doing some real investigating and analysis is hard. I get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

Revealing

Revealing that people value meanlingless information.

Meaningless to those who shut their eyes to the facts.

It's lazy. Lazy lazy lazy. Doing some real investigating and analysis is hard. I get it.

Doing some real investigating and analysis is what positions people in this area to avoid lower-tier public schools when they have better options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

Revealing

Revealing that people value meanlingless information.

Meaningless to those who shut their eyes to the facts.

It's lazy. Lazy lazy lazy. Doing some real investigating and analysis is hard. I get it.

Doing some real investigating and analysis is what positions people in this area to avoid lower-tier public schools when they have better options.

Ha! That might the funniest thing I've read here all year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our oldest child is enrolled at Hayfield Secondary. Middle schooler, taking all-honors courses, getting As. Smart kid who is thriving at Hayfield alongside other smart kids. Loves most of her teachers (nobody ever loves all of their teachers). Don't listen to the snobby haters. It's a fine secondary school.

My spouse jokes that he graduated from one of "the worst" high school in northern California according to some rankings. He was surrounded by ESOL students there. He went on to turn down Yale and Stanford for a state school PhD. program in the hard sciences. He's a professor who teaches college-level courses and he's totally fine with our kids going to Hayfield. He's been impressed with the school. So am I, and I have a masters of science degree.

Good students rise to the top no matter where they go to school. Let's stop all the McLean-Arlington pyramid nonsense. It doesn't mean the kids are any smarter.

TJHSST 2198
H-B Woodlawn 1860
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
George Mason 1760
Woodson 1755
Yorktown 1752
Oakton 1750
Washington-Lee 1702
Marshall 1699
Chantilly 1685
Robinson 1685
Lake Braddock 1673
South Lakes 1671
West Springfield 1659
Centreville 1653
Briar Woods 1652
Stone Bridge 1650
Dominion 1642
Freedom 1642
Woodgrove 1637
Herndon 1621
Loudoun Valley 1620
Broad Run 1619
Heritage 1617
Champe 1617
Potomac Falls 1614
Westfield 1609
Fairfax 1603
South County 1598
Loudoun County 1595
Rock Ridge 1592
Tuscarora 1587
West Potomac 1571
Hayfield 1530
Annandale 1520
Falls Church 1510
Edison 1498
Park View 1496
Stuart 1489
Lee 1476
TC Williams 1458
Wakefield 1431
Mount Vernon 1387

Meaningless

Revealing

Revealing that people value meanlingless information.

Meaningless to those who shut their eyes to the facts.

It's lazy. Lazy lazy lazy. Doing some real investigating and analysis is hard. I get it.

Doing some real investigating and analysis is what positions people in this area to avoid lower-tier public schools when they have better options.

Ha! That might the funniest thing I've read here all year.

You're probably just crying and don't know the difference any longer.

[Anonymous]

^ you truly are a moron. Sad!

[Anonymous]

No, actually. No one sends their kids there. Th schools are filled with actors that do background scenes for the movies.

No real children actually attend any of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, our DKs attend one of the schools on this lower tier list and I just looked at the email from FCPS yesterday and 2 kids they grew up with (1 at TJ now, other at "terrible" HS) won some sort of Natl Merit scholarships so as others have said, there are plenty of bright kids/opportunities available at all FCPS high schools. There are lots of AP classes for kids who want/need them. Many kids are headed to UVA/WM next year.

Our kids love the crazy mix of socio-econ and international diversity. And they've learned to deal with all types of people and situations - more so than DH and I who had very UMC experiences at our lily white mid-western schools.

One thing that irks me is that all the families fleeing IB at the other low performing HS nearby end up in our schools, making them terribly overcrowded. It starts in elementary with families sneaking in to our pyramid via foreign language, then AAP in 3rd grade and so on. It's led to overcrowding in middle and high school. FCPS refuses to shut the door at any level and it's very dysfunctional.

My guess is you're talking about the schools my children attend. DS is at the IB school that everyone is fleeing from (Mount Vernon) and I totally agree. There are more families in my neighborhood that send their kids to the local Catholic school and Ft Hunt for Spanish immersion, than our local elementary (although it is getting better with a new principal.) Almost 100% of the neighborhood goes to Sandburg Middle as opposed to Whitman for AAP and the continuation of the Spanish immersion. Because of the similarity of names (AAP and AP) most elementary school families that I know seem to assume that you automatically go to West Po for the continuation of the AAP program, which is what has happened. Again, I know more children in my neighborhood at West Po than at Mount Vernon. I'm hopeful that whoever is hired at West Po will absolutely close the school to new transfers, forcing families to either move, pay for private or go to MV. My DS is a junior, so we'll see how his college acceptances go. He is a full IB candidate and has a good group of friends who are all college bound. And all the kids DS knew through sports or band, who are now college freshmen or seniors, are all headed to good schools.

I thought if you requested a transfer out of Mount Vernon you were sent to Hayfield, as West Potomac is over capacity? Is that only if you request a transfer due to IB versus AP? I know several families that inquired over the past two years and were told their option (other than MV) was Hayfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, actually. No one sends their kids there. Th schools are filled with actors that do background scenes for the movies.

No real children actually attend any of them.

The question was anyone HERE. Low effort post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ you truly are a moron. Sad!

So, you ran out of your "best words"? Not that you had many to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ you truly are a moron. Sad!

So, you ran out of your "best words"? Not that you had many to begin with.

Start by making an informed argument, not just some meaningless stats. I'm just putting the same effort as you.