Rockville schools

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to get in a different school district, you will have to move to a different county or state. There is only one school district in Montgomery County, and it's Montgomery County Public Schools.

Yes, it's all one school district, but the facilities, teachers, class offerings varies DRAMATICALLY. We have family that live all over the county and there is a huge difference amongst schools.

Completely agree and anyone who disagrees is just being naive. People would not pay significantly more for the exact same house in one school cluster over another if there was not a reason. Just because the MCPS curriculum is the same does not mean that it is implemented the same in every school. Peer groupings will also differ from one school cluster to another and it absolutely makes a difference. If a teacher has significant behavioral issues in their classes then it makes it much harder to teach. Also, if you look at the course bulletins for each high school in the county you will see the differences in class offerings. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.

Of course there's a reason. But is it a valid reason, in terms of education? Will the exact same kid, from the exact same family, get a better education in a Wootton cluster school than a Richard Montgomery cluster school than a Rockville cluster school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to get in a different school district, you will have to move to a different county or state. There is only one school district in Montgomery County, and it's Montgomery County Public Schools.

Yes, it's all one school district, but the facilities, teachers, class offerings varies DRAMATICALLY. We have family that live all over the county and there is a huge difference amongst schools.

Completely agree and anyone who disagrees is just being naive. People would not pay significantly more for the exact same house in one school cluster over another if there was not a reason. Just because the MCPS curriculum is the same does not mean that it is implemented the same in every school. Peer groupings will also differ from one school cluster to another and it absolutely makes a difference. If a teacher has significant behavioral issues in their classes then it makes it much harder to teach. Also, if you look at the course bulletins for each high school in the county you will see the differences in class offerings. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.

Of course there's a reason. But is it a valid reason, in terms of education? Will the exact same kid, from the exact same family, get a better education in a Wootton cluster school than a Richard Montgomery cluster school than a Rockville cluster school?

That depends on the child and his or her family. Studies show that when low-SES students attend a high-SES school, the low-SES student's performance improves; however, when a high -SES student attends a low-SES school, there is little to no performance difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to get in a different school district, you will have to move to a different county or state. There is only one school district in Montgomery County, and it's Montgomery County Public Schools.

Yes, it's all one school district, but the facilities, teachers, class offerings varies DRAMATICALLY. We have family that live all over the county and there is a huge difference amongst schools.

Completely agree and anyone who disagrees is just being naive. People would not pay significantly more for the exact same house in one school cluster over another if there was not a reason. Just because the MCPS curriculum is the same does not mean that it is implemented the same in every school. Peer groupings will also differ from one school cluster to another and it absolutely makes a difference. If a teacher has significant behavioral issues in their classes then it makes it much harder to teach. Also, if you look at the course bulletins for each high school in the county you will see the differences in class offerings. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.

Of course there's a reason. But is it a valid reason, in terms of education? Will the exact same kid, from the exact same family, get a better education in a Wootton cluster school than a Richard Montgomery cluster school than a Rockville cluster school?

Absolutely. Have you seen the difference in course offerings between Wood MS and someplace like Frost MS (as an example)? Much wider course offerings, especially for electives. I work in a field where I come into contact with tons of teachers in MCPS. They will all tell you there are certain schools where they love to teach - better parent/PTA support, better resources. That leads to kids having better opportunities.

Behavioral issues are huge. MS is tough for ALL kids, but for kids who have other issues at home - absent parents, incarcerated parents, etc, it is that much harder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to get in a different school district, you will have to move to a different county or state. There is only one school district in Montgomery County, and it's Montgomery County Public Schools.

Yes, it's all one school district, but the facilities, teachers, class offerings varies DRAMATICALLY. We have family that live all over the county and there is a huge difference amongst schools.

Completely agree and anyone who disagrees is just being naive. People would not pay significantly more for the exact same house in one school cluster over another if there was not a reason. Just because the MCPS curriculum is the same does not mean that it is implemented the same in every school. Peer groupings will also differ from one school cluster to another and it absolutely makes a difference. If a teacher has significant behavioral issues in their classes then it makes it much harder to teach. Also, if you look at the course bulletins for each high school in the county you will see the differences in class offerings. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.

Of course there's a reason. But is it a valid reason, in terms of education? Will the exact same kid, from the exact same family, get a better education in a Wootton cluster school than a Richard Montgomery cluster school than a Rockville cluster school?

Absolutely. Have you seen the difference in course offerings between Wood MS and someplace like Frost MS (as an example)? Much wider course offerings, especially for electives. I work in a field where I come into contact with tons of teachers in MCPS. They will all tell you there are certain schools where they love to teach - better parent/PTA support, better resources. That leads to kids having better opportunities.

Behavioral issues are huge. MS is tough for ALL kids, but for kids who have other issues at home - absent parents, incarcerated parents, etc, it is that much harder.

Huh. So within the same public school district, public schools with lots of rich kids provide more and better to the kids than public schools without lots of rich kids? In other words, them that has, gets? Do you think that's problematic? Do the teachers you work with think it's problematic?

[Anonymous]

Why is the HGC program still at Barnsley when it's so overcrowded? Shouldn't they move it to one of the other elementary schools in the same cluster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to get in a different school district, you will have to move to a different county or state. There is only one school district in Montgomery County, and it's Montgomery County Public Schools.

Yes, it's all one school district, but the facilities, teachers, class offerings varies DRAMATICALLY. We have family that live all over the county and there is a huge difference amongst schools.

Completely agree and anyone who disagrees is just being naive. People would not pay significantly more for the exact same house in one school cluster over another if there was not a reason. Just because the MCPS curriculum is the same does not mean that it is implemented the same in every school. Peer groupings will also differ from one school cluster to another and it absolutely makes a difference. If a teacher has significant behavioral issues in their classes then it makes it much harder to teach. Also, if you look at the course bulletins for each high school in the county you will see the differences in class offerings. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.

Of course there's a reason. But is it a valid reason, in terms of education? Will the exact same kid, from the exact same family, get a better education in a Wootton cluster school than a Richard Montgomery cluster school than a Rockville cluster school?

Absolutely. Have you seen the difference in course offerings between Wood MS and someplace like Frost MS (as an example)? Much wider course offerings, especially for electives. I work in a field where I come into contact with tons of teachers in MCPS. They will all tell you there are certain schools where they love to teach - better parent/PTA support, better resources. That leads to kids having better opportunities.

Behavioral issues are huge. MS is tough for ALL kids, but for kids who have other issues at home - absent parents, incarcerated parents, etc, it is that much harder.

Hi, this is OP. Can you share the schools that the people you meet like to work at? I definitely think teacher morale makes a difference so would be interested to know. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to get in a different school district, you will have to move to a different county or state. There is only one school district in Montgomery County, and it's Montgomery County Public Schools.

Yes, it's all one school district, but the facilities, teachers, class offerings varies DRAMATICALLY. We have family that live all over the county and there is a huge difference amongst schools.

Completely agree and anyone who disagrees is just being naive. People would not pay significantly more for the exact same house in one school cluster over another if there was not a reason. Just because the MCPS curriculum is the same does not mean that it is implemented the same in every school. Peer groupings will also differ from one school cluster to another and it absolutely makes a difference. If a teacher has significant behavioral issues in their classes then it makes it much harder to teach. Also, if you look at the course bulletins for each high school in the county you will see the differences in class offerings. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.

Of course there's a reason. But is it a valid reason, in terms of education? Will the exact same kid, from the exact same family, get a better education in a Wootton cluster school than a Richard Montgomery cluster school than a Rockville cluster school?

Absolutely. Have you seen the difference in course offerings between Wood MS and someplace like Frost MS (as an example)? Much wider course offerings, especially for electives. I work in a field where I come into contact with tons of teachers in MCPS. They will all tell you there are certain schools where they love to teach - better parent/PTA support, better resources. That leads to kids having better opportunities.

Behavioral issues are huge. MS is tough for ALL kids, but for kids who have other issues at home - absent parents, incarcerated parents, etc, it is that much harder.

Huh. So within the same public school district, public schools with lots of rich kids provide more and better to the kids than public schools without lots of rich kids? In other words, them that has, gets? Do you think that's problematic? Do the teachers you work with think it's problematic?

Just looked at Frosts electives. I see nothing lavish or unusual...the basics arts and music,tech, languages. They have one class social studies class listed as an elective that seemed extra compared to what my kids had but that was a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the HGC program still at Barnsley when it's so overcrowded? Shouldn't they move it to one of the other elementary schools in the same cluster?

This is a fantastic question. I'd love to know why that is the case also. How do they determine which schools host the HGC?

There are new pilot programs going on this year with respect to the HGC, so maybe they'll be making some changes to this.

Barnsley also has a HUGE number of kids with COSAs, due to all it's special programs. Siblings of kids in the HGC end up getting COSAs, for example. As well as a large number of kids who do not live in boundary, but just use a family member's address to attend. We know of about 20 families that have gone this route.

[Anonymous]

Frost. A big meh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frost. A big meh.

Considering moving to a house with Frost as middle school. Please share why meh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the HGC program still at Barnsley when it's so overcrowded? Shouldn't they move it to one of the other elementary schools in the same cluster?

This is a fantastic question. I'd love to know why that is the case also. How do they determine which schools host the HGC?

There are new pilot programs going on this year with respect to the HGC, so maybe they'll be making some changes to this.

Barnsley also has a HUGE number of kids with COSAs, due to all it's special programs. Siblings of kids in the HGC end up getting COSAs, for example. As well as a large number of kids who do not live in boundary, but just use a family member's address to attend. We know of about 20 families that have gone this route.

I think this is being changed as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the HGC program still at Barnsley when it's so overcrowded? Shouldn't they move it to one of the other elementary schools in the same cluster?

The real question is why so many out-of-boundary kids are being allowed to attend using someone else's address? I know this is a problem county-wide, but it needs to be addressed. People need to stay at their home school or should be paying the cost to attend another school. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the HGC program still at Barnsley when it's so overcrowded? Shouldn't they move it to one of the other elementary schools in the same cluster?

The real question is why so many out-of-boundary kids are being allowed to attend using someone else's address? I know this is a problem county-wide, but it needs to be addressed. People need to stay at their home school or should be paying the cost to attend another school. Period.

Won't be a problem once DeVious policies of school choice are enacted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the HGC program still at Barnsley when it's so overcrowded? Shouldn't they move it to one of the other elementary schools in the same cluster?

The real question is why so many out-of-boundary kids are being allowed to attend using someone else's address? I know this is a problem county-wide, but it needs to be addressed. People need to stay at their home school or should be paying the cost to attend another school. Period.

Amen. I understand that there's a legitimate need for some families to go this route but I've seen way too many people take advantage of this. I personally know already a few families that have "created" a need so that their children can attend a W school. I don't have dog in this fight because my kids don't go to a W school but maybe if we got rid of even 70% of the COSAs then we wouldn't see such a huge overcrowding problem at some of the schools. Look at WJ. I know a couple of families who send their kids at one of its feeder Elem schools just so that their kids don't have to go to their assigned school. I'm sure someone will say MYOB but this is truly a problem that needs to be addressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the HGC program still at Barnsley when it's so overcrowded? Shouldn't they move it to one of the other elementary schools in the same cluster?

The real question is why so many out-of-boundary kids are being allowed to attend using someone else's address? I know this is a problem county-wide, but it needs to be addressed. People need to stay at their home school or should be paying the cost to attend another school. Period.

Amen. I understand that there's a legitimate need for some families to go this route but I've seen way too many people take advantage of this. I personally know already a few families that have "created" a need so that their children can attend a W school. I don't have dog in this fight because my kids don't go to a W school but maybe if we got rid of even 70% of the COSAs then we wouldn't see such a huge overcrowding problem at some of the schools. Look at WJ. I know a couple of families who send their kids at one of its feeder Elem schools just so that their kids don't have to go to their assigned school. I'm sure someone will say MYOB but this is truly a problem that needs to be addressed.

I believe the problem is "address"--pun intended.