How is HB still allowed to exist given the overcrowding?!

[Anonymous]

Yes, the point isn't that HB is causing the problem. The problem is that HB winners don't have to live with the problems the rest of us do... overcrowding. Thats not fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the point isn't that HB is causing the problem. The problem is that HB winners don't have to live with the problems the rest of us do... overcrowding. Thats not fair.

Exactly! And they have the audacity to act as if they have been wronged in some way, when they are getting tremendous privilege in their protected situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not so much sour grapes as it is a dose of reality. Of course HB is part of the problem. If it's inherently so awesome and such as asset, why not allow in 100 more kids per class. Duh, it's because increasing its size would kill the reason it's special. And what I'm saying is that it's outrageous that the lucky few get to have this for their kids when my kids don't get it. And I'm paying for it, dearly! Insult to injury.

So if your kids got it would you still push to get rid of the program?

What are you "paying"? The new building? That was intended for the new middle school. Blame the Taylor families who pushed H-B out and forced them too take that building instead.

It costs $20k per kid to educate a child in APS. You're right I want HB for my kid! I'd hope I'd be gracious and want to share with everyone if my kid won the golden ticket. But we'll never know because we didn't win. I'm not bashing the parents of kids who are lucky. I'm bashing the government that creates this system where some kids are more equal than others. Put more simply, if HB had similar overcrowding to Swanson, I wouldn't feel outraged at all that we didn't win the lottery. Let's get HB as overcrowded as everyone else!

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not so much sour grapes as it is a dose of reality. Of course HB is part of the problem. If it's inherently so awesome and such as asset, why not allow in 100 more kids per class. Duh, it's because increasing its size would kill the reason it's special. And what I'm saying is that it's outrageous that the lucky few get to have this for their kids when my kids don't get it. And I'm paying for it, dearly! Insult to injury.

So if your kids got it would you still push to get rid of the program?

What are you "paying"? The new building? That was intended for the new middle school. Blame the Taylor families who pushed H-B out and forced them too take that building instead.

It costs $20k per kid to educate a child in APS. You're right I want HB for my kid! I'd hope I'd be gracious and want to share with everyone if my kid won the golden ticket. But we'll never know because we didn't win. I'm not bashing the parents of kids who are lucky. I'm bashing the government that creates this system where some kids are more equal than others. Put more simply, if HB had similar overcrowding to Swanson, I wouldn't feel outraged at all that we didn't win the lottery. Let's get HB as overcrowded as everyone else!

+100

Meh - life's not fair. Even my kids get that. They know some friends who got in and most who didn't, but they don't have hard feelings about it.

Why are you so stuck on bashing H-B instead of coming up with a REAL solution for all of the kids? So you add a chunk of kids to H-B, that is still NOT going to solve the problem at all. We will still have overcrowded schools.

You are taking away from the message that we need a 4th comprehensive HS - something that is currently not a lock at all. Do you really want the EdCenter option? If you are actually concerned about the issue (overcrowding) and it's not just sour grapes, then focus on the real solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not so much sour grapes as it is a dose of reality. Of course HB is part of the problem. If it's inherently so awesome and such as asset, why not allow in 100 more kids per class. Duh, it's because increasing its size would kill the reason it's special. And what I'm saying is that it's outrageous that the lucky few get to have this for their kids when my kids don't get it. And I'm paying for it, dearly! Insult to injury.

So if your kids got it would you still push to get rid of the program?

What are you "paying"? The new building? That was intended for the new middle school. Blame the Taylor families who pushed H-B out and forced them too take that building instead.

It costs $20k per kid to educate a child in APS. You're right I want HB for my kid! I'd hope I'd be gracious and want to share with everyone if my kid won the golden ticket. But we'll never know because we didn't win. I'm not bashing the parents of kids who are lucky. I'm bashing the government that creates this system where some kids are more equal than others. Put more simply, if HB had similar overcrowding to Swanson, I wouldn't feel outraged at all that we didn't win the lottery. Let's get HB as overcrowded as everyone else!

+100

Meh - life's not fair. Even my kids get that. They know some friends who got in and most who didn't, but they don't have hard feelings about it.

Why are you so stuck on bashing H-B instead of coming up with a REAL solution for all of the kids? So you add a chunk of kids to H-B, that is still NOT going to solve the problem at all. We will still have overcrowded schools.

You are taking away from the message that we need a 4th comprehensive HS - something that is currently not a lock at all. Do you really want the EdCenter option? If you are actually concerned about the issue (overcrowding) and it's not just sour grapes, then focus on the real solution.

Closing HB is part of the solution. HB parents should be focused on the solution too, instead of living in their private school bubble.

[Anonymous]

^^agree. It's mostly the same families we know with all their kids there so they don't give a crap. None of their kids will ha e to face over-crowding and not even being able to walk with absckpack in the hall for space reasons. At what point do they consider that a fire hazard?!?!!!

[Anonymous]

I'm 13:29 and my kids do not go there. We didn't even apply.

[Anonymous]

^13:27

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the point isn't that HB is causing the problem. The problem is that HB winners don't have to live with the problems the rest of us do... overcrowding. Thats not fair.

They are adding 100 kids to HB, which increases their student population by 10 percent, which is a lot (not as much as the other schools, but not nothing, either). And they have kids in trailers, their kids share lockers, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You do have the option to transfer to TJ or Kenmore. They are both under 100% and take transfers. We've been very happy at TJ.

Oh fuck you--you know they aren't even 1/8 comparable to HB much less Swanson or WMS

And it all goes back to this. If HB ladnitred more students of color or students who are free and reduced lunch eligible, or SpEd students, or ELL students, then you wouldn't even want to send your kid there.

You have options if you're only worried about crowding. If you want a segregated school, like all the other rich folks in this town, you have to deal with the overcrowding caused by all the other rich folks who want the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You do have the option to transfer to TJ or Kenmore. They are both under 100% and take transfers. We've been very happy at TJ.

Oh fuck you--you know they aren't even 1/8 comparable to HB much less Swanson or WMS

And it all goes back to this. If HB ladnitred more students of color or students who are free and reduced lunch eligible, or SpEd students, or ELL students, then you wouldn't even want to send your kid there.

You have options if you're only worried about crowding. If you want a segregated school, like all the other rich folks in this town, you have to deal with the overcrowding caused by all the other rich folks who want the same.

That supposed to be "admitted."

[Anonymous]

Even an an HB parent, I admit its unfair that my DS won the lottery to attend HB and his best friend is just as talented a student but is getiing lost at Yorktown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even an an HB parent, I admit its unfair that my DS won the lottery to attend HB and his best friend is just as talented a student but is getiing lost at Yorktown.

I'm sure you meant well but, talent? That had nothing to do with being admitted to HB and makes it sound like those who are less talented are less deserving of admittance and just fine at the overcrowded schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even an an HB parent, I admit its unfair that my DS won the lottery to attend HB and his best friend is just as talented a student but is getiing lost at Yorktown.

Admission to HB has nothing to do with talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even an an HB parent, I admit its unfair that my DS won the lottery to attend HB and his best friend is just as talented a student but is getiing lost at Yorktown.

Admission to HB has nothing to do with talent.

I think PP's point was that a kid she knows who would do well at HB did not win the lottery and is now NOT doing well at Yorktown.