Charleston Plantations

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although slavery was a repugnant part of American history, to compare a plantation to Auschwitz or any other death camp is reprehensible and diminishes the horror of the Holocaust.


Plantations were also labor and death camps for millions. Instead of a quick death at Aushwitz, the plantations offered a brutal, torturous, slow death. Auschwitz wasn't the first Holocaust and it wasn't the last.



Be sure to include New England.
http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/09/26/new_englands_hidden_history/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888




Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


I wouldn't visit the pyramids, because going to Egypt right now is too, too risky.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although slavery was a repugnant part of American history, to compare a plantation to Auschwitz or any other death camp is reprehensible and diminishes the horror of the Holocaust.


Plantations were also labor and death camps for millions. Instead of a quick death at Aushwitz, the plantations offered a brutal, torturous, slow death. Auschwitz wasn't the first Holocaust and it wasn't the last.



Be sure to include New England.
http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/09/26/new_englands_hidden_history/


The entire eastern part of this country, from Massachusetts to Florida, west to Texas was built on slave labor some parts of the country was more brutal than other parts. Some areas lasted a lot longer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888




Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


I wouldn't visit the pyramids, because going to Egypt right now is too, too risky.


That's not the point. The pyramids, Taj Mahal, great wall of China, and other historical places often visited by tourists were not necessarily paid a living wage and treated fairly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888


Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


Posting an indictment of one system isn't an endorsement of another.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888


Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


Posting an indictment of one system isn't an endorsement of another.


Yes, let's just focus on slavery in the south. Since most DCUM posters are from other places, it makes everyone feel better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888


Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


Posting an indictment of one system isn't an endorsement of another.


Are you concerned about the Hindu slaves who suffered building the Taj Mahal? Do you think that magnificent structure should not be visited by tourists?
Anonymous
A lot longer means as much as 70-80 years, which is a blink in the eye of history.

There were slaves in the North, a handful lasted into the 1830s and 1840s in places like even New Jersey! Slaves were among the many people who helped build the United States and their presence, however small, in the North should not be forgotten either, and their contribution to the Southern economy, however much of that was destroyed in the war, should not be forgotten either.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although slavery was a repugnant part of American history, to compare a plantation to Auschwitz or any other death camp is reprehensible and diminishes the horror of the Holocaust.


Plantations were also labor and death camps for millions. Instead of a quick death at Aushwitz, the plantations offered a brutal, torturous, slow death. Auschwitz wasn't the first Holocaust and it wasn't the last.



Be sure to include New England.
http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/09/26/new_englands_hidden_history/


The entire eastern part of this country, from Massachusetts to Florida, west to Texas was built on slave labor some parts of the country was more brutal than other parts. Some areas lasted a lot longer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888


Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


Posting an indictment of one system isn't an endorsement of another.


Are you concerned about the Hindu slaves who suffered building the Taj Mahal? Do you think that magnificent structure should not be visited by tourists?


Is this DCUrban Mumbai. Would you agree that we're in the United States of America. Why the need to bring in other countries or cultures, except to deflect from the topic. Heck, do you engage in all your conversations with deflection, but, but, but .. . He did it too, so I'm not the only one. PP, you reason like a five year old. And , if you stay on topic, most posters did not say don't tour. They simply advised and your strongly suggested that OP get a full understanding of plantation life, and not just the genteel spiel of the big house. A suggestion, if you like, that can be reminded to anyone visiting your pay Rapids and Taj Majals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A lot longer means as much as 70-80 years, which is a blink in the eye of history.

There were slaves in the North, a handful lasted into the 1830s and 1840s in places like even New Jersey! Slaves were among the many people who helped build the United States and their presence, however small, in the North should not be forgotten either, and their contribution to the Southern economy, however much of that was destroyed in the war, should not be forgotten either.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although slavery was a repugnant part of American history, to compare a plantation to Auschwitz or any other death camp is reprehensible and diminishes the horror of the Holocaust.


Plantations were also labor and death camps for millions. Instead of a quick death at Aushwitz, the plantations offered a brutal, torturous, slow death. Auschwitz wasn't the first Holocaust and it wasn't the last.



Be sure to include New England.
http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/09/26/new_englands_hidden_history/


The entire eastern part of this country, from Massachusetts to Florida, west to Texas was built on slave labor some parts of the country was more brutal than other parts. Some areas lasted a lot longer.


Absolutely. Acknowledged and accepted that NYC brought their first slaves into the city around the 1640's to work. The Dutch slave traders were big business during that time. Slaves were an integral part of NY, Delaware, Philadelphia, York, and beyond during the American Revolution. Developers have been unearthing Afriican slave grave sites for years. Around 2003, congress appropriate funds to rebury many of the seton remains in another gravesite and mark as either a museum or memorial. I
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888


Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


Posting an indictment of one system isn't an endorsement of another.


Are you concerned about the Hindu slaves who suffered building the Taj Mahal? Do you think that magnificent structure should not be visited by tourists?




Is this DCUrban Mumbai. Would you agree that we're in the United States of America. Why the need to bring in other countries or cultures, except to deflect from the topic. Heck, do you engage in all your conversations with deflection, but, but, but .. . He did it too, so I'm not the only one. PP, you reason like a five year old. And , if you stay on topic, most posters did not say don't tour. They simply advised and your strongly suggested that OP get a full understanding of plantation life, and not just the genteel spiel of the big house. A suggestion, if you like, that can be reminded to anyone visiting your pay Rapids and Taj Majals.


Pay Rapids should be pyramids. I have too many other typos that I will not bother to correct. I'm sure you get the understanding of the post, typos and all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888


Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


Posting an indictment of one system isn't an endorsement of another.


Are you concerned about the Hindu slaves who suffered building the Taj Mahal? Do you think that magnificent structure should not be visited by tourists?




Is this DCUrban Mumbai. Would you agree that we're in the United States of America. Why the need to bring in other countries or cultures, except to deflect from the topic. Heck, do you engage in all your conversations with deflection, but, but, but .. . He did it too, so I'm not the only one. PP, you reason like a five year old. And , if you stay on topic, most posters did not say don't tour. They simply advised and your strongly suggested that OP get a full understanding of plantation life, and not just the genteel spiel of the big house. A suggestion, if you like, that can be reminded to anyone visiting your pay Rapids and Taj Majals.


Pay Rapids should be pyramids. I have too many other typos that I will not bother to correct. I'm sure you get the understanding of the post, typos and all.


Absolutely, I do! Typos are fine. The problem I have is that DCUM posters ask questions all the time about visiting countries and sights of interest all over the world. Somehow, the question of how those places were created doesn't become a reason for not visiting them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot longer means as much as 70-80 years, which is a blink in the eye of history.

There were slaves in the North, a handful lasted into the 1830s and 1840s in places like even New Jersey! Slaves were among the many people who helped build the United States and their presence, however small, in the North should not be forgotten either, and their contribution to the Southern economy, however much of that was destroyed in the war, should not be forgotten either.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although slavery was a repugnant part of American history, to compare a plantation to Auschwitz or any other death camp is reprehensible and diminishes the horror of the Holocaust.


Plantations were also labor and death camps for millions. Instead of a quick death at Aushwitz, the plantations offered a brutal, torturous, slow death. Auschwitz wasn't the first Holocaust and it wasn't the last.



Be sure to include New England.
http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/09/26/new_englands_hidden_history/


The entire eastern part of this country, from Massachusetts to Florida, west to Texas was built on slave labor some parts of the country was more brutal than other parts. Some areas lasted a lot longer.


Absolutely. Acknowledged and accepted that NYC brought their first slaves into the city around the 1640's to work. The Dutch slave traders were big business during that time. Slaves were an integral part of NY, Delaware, Philadelphia, York, and beyond during the American Revolution. Developers have been unearthing Afriican slave grave sites for years. Around 2003, congress appropriate funds to rebury many of the seton remains in another gravesite and mark as either a museum or memorial. I


I've been reading and contributing to DCUM for years. More than just a few posters say they wouldn't visit the south at all because of slavery.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same can be said of slave plantation tourist sites in the Caribbean. People are clueless.

Eric Williams, the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, wrote a great book in 1944 on how slavery enabled the capitalist system (i.e. Britain/London). He was well beyond his time.

https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Slavery-Eric-Williams/dp/0807844888


Guess some of these posters wouldn't visit the pyramids either, since paid workers didn't do the manual labor.


Posting an indictment of one system isn't an endorsement of another.


Are you concerned about the Hindu slaves who suffered building the Taj Mahal? Do you think that magnificent structure should not be visited by tourists?


Is this DCUrban Mumbai. Would you agree that we're in the United States of America. Why the need to bring in other countries or cultures, except to deflect from the topic. Heck, do you engage in all your conversations with deflection, but, but, but .. . He did it too, so I'm not the only one. PP, you reason like a five year old. And , if you stay on topic, most posters did not say don't tour. They simply advised and your strongly suggested that OP get a full understanding of plantation life, and not just the genteel spiel of the big house. A suggestion, if you like, that can be reminded to anyone visiting your pay Rapids and Taj Majals.


B/c most Americans are clueless about the outside world. Case in point: https://youtu.be/gFgPX0hnNfA
Anonymous
I need another bag of popcorn.
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