Jefferson Academy Kool-Aid

[Anonymous]

Eastern isn't a dead end. It's more a path not chosen. Application schools provide escape hatches for those who remain in public ed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're trying hard to move a 30 million dollar plus renovation, planned for 2021 by DCPS and Bowser, up by a few years, and to build relationships with admins and the Jefferson parent organization. All fine, it's the feeder problem that seems unworkable in under a decade. Not nearly enough strong students in the pipeline from Tyler heading to Jefferson, and none in-boundary from Brent. Also no 5th grade at Van Ness for another five years. If Brent, Maury and SWS fed to the same DCPS middle school, we'd have another Deal soon. But nobody much lobbied for that several years back, and DCPS wasn't amenable anyway.

No one is amenable to that because picking those three schools out of the hat doesn't make any sense.

If you look at the feeders for Hardy it's all relatively affluent neighborhoods. It hasn't taken off because it's probably too affluent for public schools. That's slowly changing as more students from feeders are staying. Key, Mann, Stoddert, Hyde-Addison, Eaton -- that's a pretty impressive group of feeders and not a whole lot of FARMS in that lot. It's OK for NW but not the Hill. When Hardy turns DCPS is going to see a MS even more affluent and less diverse than Deal

Hardy is still 15% IB. Change isn't happening like many had hoped.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not a great week for the Brent community. Many 4th graders without older siblings at charters didn't land a spot at the public middle schools parents applied them to - Washington Latin, BASIS, Stuart Hobson, Hardy, 2 Rivers, Creative Minds, Inspired Teaching etc. It sounds like two dozen of the 60 currently have no DC public option other than Jefferson Academy. Some will get off wait lists by the start of school. Some won't. Brent's 5th grade of 18 will be larger in the fall as a result. No telling how big just yet.

Do you know how many sibs there were? It sounds like more than 1/2 the 4th graders landed somewhere public for 5th (other than Brent) - whereas at SWS, it sounds like around 25% landed a public 5th grade spot (other than SWS).

Anyone know what happened at Maury?

Same situation with it sounds fewer getting into Latin or Basis (if they applied) but generally not desperate like this conversation here, with many playing the lottery for the heck of it and others not even bothering. Just as Brent, Maury has some parents bound for Stuart-Hobson and happy with that and many others have confidence in Eliot-Hine and Jefferson. We will most certainly take a closer look not only at Eliot-Hine, with which we're familiar, but also Jefferson even if it's a little out of the way. We know families/kids at Jefferson who've done exceptionally well for high school placements. So no fear there.

Please, Maury parents aren't guaranteed a spot at Hobson anymore than Brent parents. We're seeing the unworkable Hobson lottery numbers in the 200s over here so you must be seeing them over there. Many others with confidence in Eliot-Hine is BS. Show me the cohort of high SES kids at EH (because such kids are, er, the majority in the school district) and I'm convinced.

Right, so Jefferson Academy is fine as is. So where are the high SES kids there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eastern isn't a dead end. It's more a path not chosen. Application schools provide escape hatches for those who remain in public ed.

Eastern's average quantitative and verbal SAT scores are in the 300s.

Random guessing gets a test taker around a 250.

More of a path chosen by a big group of functional illiterates and the profoundly math challenged failed by DCPS and poverty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Home schooling co-op.

I'm interested. A group of Johns Hopkins faculty and staff in Baltimore did this in the 90s. They had around 50 kids at their peak, using graduate student part-time teachers. I'll ask around my Hopkins circle to ask if anybody involved can advise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a great week for the Brent community. Many 4th graders without older siblings at charters didn't land a spot at the public middle schools parents applied them to - Washington Latin, BASIS, Stuart Hobson, Hardy, 2 Rivers, Creative Minds, Inspired Teaching etc. It sounds like two dozen of the 60 currently have no DC public option other than Jefferson Academy. Some will get off wait lists by the start of school. Some won't. Brent's 5th grade of 18 will be larger in the fall as a result. No telling how big just yet.

Do you know how many sibs there were? It sounds like more than 1/2 the 4th graders landed somewhere public for 5th (other than Brent) - whereas at SWS, it sounds like around 25% landed a public 5th grade spot (other than SWS).

Anyone know what happened at Maury?

Same situation with it sounds fewer getting into Latin or Basis (if they applied) but generally not desperate like this conversation here, with many playing the lottery for the heck of it and others not even bothering. Just as Brent, Maury has some parents bound for Stuart-Hobson and happy with that and many others have confidence in Eliot-Hine and Jefferson. We will most certainly take a closer look not only at Eliot-Hine, with which we're familiar, but also Jefferson even if it's a little out of the way. We know families/kids at Jefferson who've done exceptionally well for high school placements. So no fear there.

Please, Maury parents aren't guaranteed a spot at Hobson anymore than Brent parents. We're seeing the unworkable Hobson lottery numbers in the 200s over here so you must be seeing them over there. Many others with confidence in Eliot-Hine is BS. Show me the cohort of high SES kids at EH (because such kids are, er, the majority in the school district) and I'm convinced.

Right, so Jefferson Academy is fine as is. So where are the high SES kids there?

Not a Maury parent but I think point is that there are Cluster families who attend Maury whose by-right MS would be SH.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Home schooling co-op.

I'm interested. A group of Johns Hopkins faculty and staff in Baltimore did this in the 90s. They had around 50 kids at their peak, using graduate student part-time teachers. I'll ask around my Hopkins circle to ask if anybody involved can advise.

The easier way to go is enroll in an online homeschooling program - and supplement informally with folks like you described. One can theoretically get in trouble for outsourcing the instruction to a non-parent.

http://osse.dc.gov/service/dc-homeschooling-program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're trying hard to move a 30 million dollar plus renovation, planned for 2021 by DCPS and Bowser, up by a few years, and to build relationships with admins and the Jefferson parent organization. All fine, it's the feeder problem that seems unworkable in under a decade. Not nearly enough strong students in the pipeline from Tyler heading to Jefferson, and none in-boundary from Brent. Also no 5th grade at Van Ness for another five years. If Brent, Maury and SWS fed to the same DCPS middle school, we'd have another Deal soon. But nobody much lobbied for that several years back, and DCPS wasn't amenable anyway.

No one is amenable to that because picking those three schools out of the hat doesn't make any sense.

If you look at the feeders for Hardy it's all relatively affluent neighborhoods. It hasn't taken off because it's probably too affluent for public schools. That's slowly changing as more students from feeders are staying. Key, Mann, Stoddert, Hyde-Addison, Eaton -- that's a pretty impressive group of feeders and not a whole lot of FARMS in that lot. It's OK for NW but not the Hill. When Hardy turns DCPS is going to see a MS even more affluent and less diverse than Deal

Hardy is still 15% IB. Change isn't happening like many had hoped.

Why this obsession with "IB" for middle school?! Latin and Basis, touted here as preferable options, are 0% IB and doing okay it seems, ever thought about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're trying hard to move a 30 million dollar plus renovation, planned for 2021 by DCPS and Bowser, up by a few years, and to build relationships with admins and the Jefferson parent organization. All fine, it's the feeder problem that seems unworkable in under a decade. Not nearly enough strong students in the pipeline from Tyler heading to Jefferson, and none in-boundary from Brent. Also no 5th grade at Van Ness for another five years. If Brent, Maury and SWS fed to the same DCPS middle school, we'd have another Deal soon. But nobody much lobbied for that several years back, and DCPS wasn't amenable anyway.

No one is amenable to that because picking those three schools out of the hat doesn't make any sense.

If you look at the feeders for Hardy it's all relatively affluent neighborhoods. It hasn't taken off because it's probably too affluent for public schools. That's slowly changing as more students from feeders are staying. Key, Mann, Stoddert, Hyde-Addison, Eaton -- that's a pretty impressive group of feeders and not a whole lot of FARMS in that lot. It's OK for NW but not the Hill. When Hardy turns DCPS is going to see a MS even more affluent and less diverse than Deal

Hardy is still 15% IB. Change isn't happening like many had hoped.

You're dead wrong. Both Hardy for 6th and all of its feeders for 3-5 are offering way fewer OOB seats than in past years. Your data is stale. Talk to me in 3 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eastern isn't a dead end. It's more a path not chosen. Application schools provide escape hatches for those who remain in public ed.

Can we kickstart fundraising to change the signage from "Pride of Capitol Hill" to "The Path Not Chosen"? PNC Bank could sponsor team uniforms!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eastern isn't a dead end. It's more a path not chosen. Application schools provide escape hatches for those who remain in public ed.

Eastern's average quantitative and verbal SAT scores are in the 300s.

Random guessing gets a test taker around a 250.

More of a path chosen by a big group of functional illiterates and the profoundly math challenged failed by DCPS and poverty.

and thus not chosen. My point is that the inferior IB high school option is not an obstacle at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eastern isn't a dead end. It's more a path not chosen. Application schools provide escape hatches for those who remain in public ed.

Can we kickstart fundraising to change the signage from "Pride of Capitol Hill" to "The Path Not Chosen"? PNC Bank could sponsor team uniforms!

but c'mon - the Marching Band!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're trying hard to move a 30 million dollar plus renovation, planned for 2021 by DCPS and Bowser, up by a few years, and to build relationships with admins and the Jefferson parent organization. All fine, it's the feeder problem that seems unworkable in under a decade. Not nearly enough strong students in the pipeline from Tyler heading to Jefferson, and none in-boundary from Brent. Also no 5th grade at Van Ness for another five years. If Brent, Maury and SWS fed to the same DCPS middle school, we'd have another Deal soon. But nobody much lobbied for that several years back, and DCPS wasn't amenable anyway.

No one is amenable to that because picking those three schools out of the hat doesn't make any sense.

If you look at the feeders for Hardy it's all relatively affluent neighborhoods. It hasn't taken off because it's probably too affluent for public schools. That's slowly changing as more students from feeders are staying. Key, Mann, Stoddert, Hyde-Addison, Eaton -- that's a pretty impressive group of feeders and not a whole lot of FARMS in that lot. It's OK for NW but not the Hill. When Hardy turns DCPS is going to see a MS even more affluent and less diverse than Deal

Hardy is still 15% IB. Change isn't happening like many had hoped.

You're dead wrong. Both Hardy for 6th and all of its feeders for 3-5 are offering way fewer OOB seats than in past years. Your data is stale. Talk to me in 3 years.

This is true. At least in round 1 --

In 2015-16 Hardy offered 80 seats in the lottery for OOB students. For 2016-17 they offered 25.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're trying hard to move a 30 million dollar plus renovation, planned for 2021 by DCPS and Bowser, up by a few years, and to build relationships with admins and the Jefferson parent organization. All fine, it's the feeder problem that seems unworkable in under a decade. Not nearly enough strong students in the pipeline from Tyler heading to Jefferson, and none in-boundary from Brent. Also no 5th grade at Van Ness for another five years. If Brent, Maury and SWS fed to the same DCPS middle school, we'd have another Deal soon. But nobody much lobbied for that several years back, and DCPS wasn't amenable anyway.

No one is amenable to that because picking those three schools out of the hat doesn't make any sense.

If you look at the feeders for Hardy it's all relatively affluent neighborhoods. It hasn't taken off because it's probably too affluent for public schools. That's slowly changing as more students from feeders are staying. Key, Mann, Stoddert, Hyde-Addison, Eaton -- that's a pretty impressive group of feeders and not a whole lot of FARMS in that lot. It's OK for NW but not the Hill. When Hardy turns DCPS is going to see a MS even more affluent and less diverse than Deal

Hardy is still 15% IB. Change isn't happening like many had hoped.

Why this obsession with "IB" for middle school?! Latin and Basis, touted here as preferable options, are 0% IB and doing okay it seems, ever thought about that?

big jump in 5th grade waitlists for 16/17 and based on enrollment figures even more to come in 17/18 & 18/19. try keeping up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Home schooling co-op.

Sounds like another, temporary, escape hatch.