Clinton on Planned Parenthood

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

takoma wrote:I did not hear anything in her comments about amending the Constitution. She was talking about being willing to consider a Republican bill IF it were consistent with Roe v Wade and took into account the mother's health. So she still opposes a total ban on late-term abortions, but accepts the idea that a state can limit them provided there are reasonable exceptions such as the mother's health. That is perfectly in line with Roe v Wade as I understand it.

What do you think this means?

"Again, I am where I have been, which is that if there's a way to structure some kind of constitutional restriction that take into account the life of the mother and her health, then I'm open to that. "

OK but what about the baby's health? I've known quite a few people who had babies die in utero or would die on arrival (potter's syndrome). Their federal insurance denied them "abortions" because the mother's life wasn't in danger. Who the hell should be forced to carry around a fetus that won't live?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists

Did the loonies join the thread? Or is this a joke?

If you think it's a joke than give a reasonable explanation of why. Snide remarks do nothing to advance the conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists

Did the loonies join the thread? Or is this a joke?

If you think it's a joke than give a reasonable explanation of why. Snide remarks do nothing to advance the conversation.

Okay... was just asking. You are entitled to your beliefs. At least the thread was reasonable for a little while and we learned a few things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the exact quote.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
Late-term fetuses are given a single heart stopping shot. No pain. So the bills your source speaks of are... useless, to put it kindly.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
Lol, what's your take on fetal pain? Heartbeat = full sensation like an adult?
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
You mean pro-choice, dear?
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
Because she's a sensible adult who understands that abortion is a fact of life?
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
You mean the thoroughly debunked videos, the creator of which is under indictment, those ones?
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
Oh my god, noes! Where else would you like women to get birth control and other health services, especially in underserved communities?
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
You really hate Democrats.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
Can you list some of these "common sense" protections for fetuses and women?
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists.
They frequently have been.

Seriously, indulge in a non-Life News news source.

[Anonymous]

Anti-choice person, you will get nowhere on this thread. Go pray at a cemetery for the "unborn" and leave this discussion along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the exact quote.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
Late-term fetuses are given a single heart stopping shot. No pain. So the bills your source speaks of are... useless, to put it kindly.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
Lol, what's your take on fetal pain? Heartbeat = full sensation like an adult?
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
You mean pro-choice, dear?
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
Because she's a sensible adult who understands that abortion is a fact of life?
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
You mean the thoroughly debunked videos, the creator of which is under indictment, those ones?
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
Oh my god, noes! Where else would you like women to get birth control and other health services, especially in underserved communities?
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
You really hate Democrats.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
Can you list some of these "common sense" protections for fetuses and women?
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists.
They frequently have been.

Seriously, indulge in a non-Life News news source.

Sigh, people are so quick to dismiss sources without doing their due diligence and at least check references giving. This only shows your underlying ignorance.

Let me help you with your misinformed incorrect remark concerning the quote "Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed"
Start listening at about 8:50 to hear the quote for yourself.

Please do your due diligence and research references before making snide remarks about sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the exact quote.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
Late-term fetuses are given a single heart stopping shot. No pain. So the bills your source speaks of are... useless, to put it kindly.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
Lol, what's your take on fetal pain? Heartbeat = full sensation like an adult?
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
You mean pro-choice, dear?
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
Because she's a sensible adult who understands that abortion is a fact of life?
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
You mean the thoroughly debunked videos, the creator of which is under indictment, those ones?
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
Oh my god, noes! Where else would you like women to get birth control and other health services, especially in underserved communities?
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
You really hate Democrats.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
Can you list some of these "common sense" protections for fetuses and women?
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists.
They frequently have been.

Seriously, indulge in a non-Life News news source.

Sigh, people are so quick to dismiss sources without doing their due diligence and at least check references giving. This only shows your underlying ignorance.

Let me help you with your misinformed incorrect remark concerning the quote "Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed"
Start listening at about 8:50 to hear the quote for yourself.

Please do your due diligence and research references before making snide remarks about sources.

What you don;t understand is that you are only making the Democrats like her more. Elevating her slightly in the eyes of Sanders supporters is quite an accomplishment on your part. Hats off to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the exact quote.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
Late-term fetuses are given a single heart stopping shot. No pain. So the bills your source speaks of are... useless, to put it kindly.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
Lol, what's your take on fetal pain? Heartbeat = full sensation like an adult?
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
You mean pro-choice, dear?
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
Because she's a sensible adult who understands that abortion is a fact of life?
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
You mean the thoroughly debunked videos, the creator of which is under indictment, those ones?
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
Oh my god, noes! Where else would you like women to get birth control and other health services, especially in underserved communities?
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
You really hate Democrats.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
Can you list some of these "common sense" protections for fetuses and women?
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists.
They frequently have been.

Seriously, indulge in a non-Life News news source.

Sigh, people are so quick to dismiss sources without doing their due diligence and at least check references giving. This only shows your underlying ignorance.

Let me help you with your misinformed incorrect remark concerning the quote "Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed"
Start listening at about 8:50 to hear the quote for yourself.

Please do your due diligence and research references before making snide remarks about sources.

What you don;t understand is that you are only making the Democrats like her more. Elevating her slightly in the eyes of Sanders supporters is quite an accomplishment on your part. Hats off to you.

BUT she did not say "to expand abortion." Important difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the exact quote.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
Late-term fetuses are given a single heart stopping shot. No pain. So the bills your source speaks of are... useless, to put it kindly.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
Lol, what's your take on fetal pain? Heartbeat = full sensation like an adult?
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
You mean pro-choice, dear?
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
Because she's a sensible adult who understands that abortion is a fact of life?
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
You mean the thoroughly debunked videos, the creator of which is under indictment, those ones?
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
Oh my god, noes! Where else would you like women to get birth control and other health services, especially in underserved communities?
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
You really hate Democrats.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
Can you list some of these "common sense" protections for fetuses and women?
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists.
They frequently have been.

Seriously, indulge in a non-Life News news source.

Sigh, people are so quick to dismiss sources without doing their due diligence and at least check references giving. This only shows your underlying ignorance.

Let me help you with your misinformed incorrect remark concerning the quote "Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed"
Start listening at about 8:50 to hear the quote for yourself.

Please do your due diligence and research references before making snide remarks about sources.

What you don;t understand is that you are only making the Democrats like her more. Elevating her slightly in the eyes of Sanders supporters is quite an accomplishment on your part. Hats off to you.

BUT she did not say "to expand abortion." Important difference.

That wasn't part of the original quote. She was speaking about reproductive health care and safe child birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a shift from some of her previous positions, especially #2 and #9 below.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion
1) “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” to expand abortion.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the exact quote.
2) Clinton attacks bill to protect unborn babies from painful late abortions.
Late-term fetuses are given a single heart stopping shot. No pain. So the bills your source speaks of are... useless, to put it kindly.
3) Clinton denies the science of fetal pain.
Lol, what's your take on fetal pain? Heartbeat = full sensation like an adult?
4) Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala
You mean pro-choice, dear?
5) Planned Parenthood Employees Pour Cash to Clinton
Because she's a sensible adult who understands that abortion is a fact of life?
6) Clinton defends Planned Parenthood after videos expose the organization’s trafficking of aborted baby body parts.
You mean the thoroughly debunked videos, the creator of which is under indictment, those ones?
7) She even released a video message in support of Planned Parenthood.
Oh my god, noes! Where else would you like women to get birth control and other health services, especially in underserved communities?
8) StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer has endorsed Clinton for president.
You really hate Democrats.
9) Clinton attacked state-level efforts to enact commonsense protections for unborn children and their mothers.
Can you list some of these "common sense" protections for fetuses and women?
10) Clinton likened pro-life Americans to terrorists.
They frequently have been.

Seriously, indulge in a non-Life News news source.

Sigh, people are so quick to dismiss sources without doing their due diligence and at least check references giving. This only shows your underlying ignorance.

Let me help you with your misinformed incorrect remark concerning the quote "Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed"
Start listening at about 8:50 to hear the quote for yourself.

Please do your due diligence and research references before making snide remarks about sources.

What you don;t understand is that you are only making the Democrats like her more. Elevating her slightly in the eyes of Sanders supporters is quite an accomplishment on your part. Hats off to you.

BUT she did not say "to expand abortion." Important difference.

That wasn't part of the original quote. She was speaking about reproductive health care and safe child birth.[/quote
Why would anyone want to expand abortion?! You want it to be available, not turn it into the principal means of contraception

[Anonymous]

I don't think that anyone said anything about expanding abortion. The anti-choice person was misquoting Clinton.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for posting that video PP!

[Anonymous]

So glad you posted that video. It's one of my favorite of her speeches.

Cecile Richards did a fantastic campaign event for Hillary in PA today. I tend to take her word on anything related to reproductive rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So glad you posted that video. It's one of my favorite of her speeches.

Cecile Richards did a fantastic campaign event for Hillary in PA today. I tend to take her word on anything related to reproductive rights.

What do you make of the video in the original post? She says something different

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And of course she waits until AFTER she has their endorsement to weaken her position, so that she can still go back and bamboozle the pro-choice folks by touting that as well. Sheesh, talk about two faced.

This video was posted to RCP in September 2015, correct? I don't know when it's from, but it was posted that month. Planned Parenthood endorsed Clinton in January 2016. So, no. Nice try, though.