Clinton on Planned Parenthood

[Anonymous]

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Clinton has flip flopped on NAFTA and TPP, gay rights, gun control, no child left behind, the Iraq war, immigration, mass incarceration, clean coal, and the Keystone XL pipeline as far as I know. I have trusted her on reproductive rights so far but there is no way to know what she will decide next. So I was asking if anyone knew more about this interview and no one seems to know. I said, earlier in this thread that I do not think she will flip flop on this. I would just like to know more if anyone can find information on the interview itself.

With the possible exception of TPP, I would not call the fact that Clinton has either admitted to making a mistake or would support a different policy 20 years later a flip flop. Dogmatic consistency is not always healthy.

You can call it flexibility but I am not sure what she has been consistent on besides abortion.

[Anonymous]

No speakers so cant hear it but based on other sites realclear omitted, at least from the written text that she was referring to late term abortion as opposed to abortion in general. More effort to dmear here with GOP tactics lie distort take out of context

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No speakers so cant hear it but based on other sites realclear omitted, at least from the written text that she was referring to late term abortion as opposed to abortion in general. More effort to dmear here with GOP tactics lie distort take out of context

What a surprise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No speakers so cant hear it but based on other sites realclear omitted, at least from the written text that she was referring to late term abortion as opposed to abortion in general. More effort to dmear here with GOP tactics lie distort take out of context

What a surprise.

Yes, of course. Because everything bad that Clinton has ever said or done can be blamed on a right wing conspiracy and their outrageous smear campaign against her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this current law? I thought late term abortions were already banned except in cases where the mother is in danger. That said, I don't think this should be an amendment.

Yes, they are very difficult to obtain. That is why I am concerned about the possibility that Clinton might be willing to change this.

Yes they are difficult to obtain. Unfortunately in many instances they are grouped together with instances in which a baby dies in utero, and the mother has surgery to get the baby out. That is in some cases considered a late term abortion, which to me is ridiculous. The baby is already dead. Why anyone would think it is a good idea to require a mom to carry a dead baby around is - it is inhumane. But it happens. Actually happened recently to a couple in Kasich's great state of Ohio. Congrats John.

Anyway, the stat I saw a couple months ago when I looked up late term abortions was 3,000 a year, and that includes the scenario I described of aborting a baby who has died in utero.

One challenge with abortion is people don't think a lot about it. You poll people, and they put an arbitrary number - 12 weeks, 10 weeks whatever. But when people spend more time with the question they change their answer. They don't consider the couple who find out about a serious health issue with the baby later on, at 16 or 20 weeks. They don't think about the couple referenced above in Ohio who were forced to walk around with a dead baby. Often they are willing to go later when they hear or are confronted with a scenario. And if you are republican politician who is REALLY against abortion but you knock up your mistress, well then you are okay with abortion in that circumstance: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/05/18/3659910/abortion-vote-desjarlais/

I am trying to give HRC the benefit of the doubt because she's been very clear about abortion to now. I'm not quite ready to freak out yet.

Don't worry, you can still kill babies so there's no need to freak out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No speakers so cant hear it but based on other sites realclear omitted, at least from the written text that she was referring to late term abortion as opposed to abortion in general. More effort to dmear here with GOP tactics lie distort take out of context

What a surprise.

Yes, of course. Because everything bad that Clinton has ever said or done can be blamed on a right wing conspiracy and their outrageous smear campaign against her

No, but when the source is RCP, one does have to wonder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No speakers so cant hear it but based on other sites realclear omitted, at least from the written text that she was referring to late term abortion as opposed to abortion in general. More effort to dmear here with GOP tactics lie distort take out of context

What a surprise.

Yes, of course. Because everything bad that Clinton has ever said or done can be blamed on a right wing conspiracy and their outrageous smear campaign against her

No, but when the source is RCP, one does have to wonder.

It doesn't matter. Currently late term abortions can be banned with no exception for the health/life of the mother. 42 states have banned them, and at least a handful of those have no exception for health/life of the mother. A constitutional amendment that creates a constitutional right to an exception for the mothers health/life would be an improvement. This is not a flip flop.