Should white Americans be called "Indigenous Europeans?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do so many Americans always want to pretend they're something they aren't and try to exoticize themselves?
Like "I'm 0.002% German, 25% Italian... bla bla...", but don't even speak the language, let alone ever been to those places. And now "indigenous Europeans"??? Give me a break.
You're American and you're white. Get over it. Seriously, talk to people from other contries, it sounds ridiculous and nobody else does this.

Signed,

A true European (born and raised)

No, they refer to people who were born and raised in Germany as "Turks". Or at least, that's what my cousins in Germany do.

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Anonymous wrote:What if you're Persian, for instance?

Persia does not exist. How can you be Persian?

It did exist and carries enough historic importance that it is still used today as a descriptor

Lol well I'm Prussian then

If you want to be Prussian, rather than (for example) German, I don't have a problem with that. Why would I?

However, "Prussia" is not a former name for the country of Germany. It's a former name for a part of the country of Germany. There is plenty of Germany that was never Prussia.

We're from Poland. It says Prussia on our immigration documents.

Part of now-Poland used to be Prussia and was inhabited mostly by ethnic Germans. If you want call yourself of Prussian ancestry rather than of German or Polish ancestry (or Jewish), what's it to me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do so many Americans always want to pretend they're something they aren't and try to exoticize themselves?
Like "I'm 0.002% German, 25% Italian... bla bla...", but don't even speak the language, let alone ever been to those places. And now "indigenous Europeans"??? Give me a break.
You're American and you're white. Get over it. Seriously, talk to people from other contries, it sounds ridiculous and nobody else does this.

Signed,

A true European (born and raised)

No, they refer to people who were born and raised in Germany as "Turks". Or at least, that's what my cousins in Germany do.

Ah, my German Oma, in German, born & raised, refers to Germans as... Germans.

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*in Germany

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do so many Americans always want to pretend they're something they aren't and try to exoticize themselves?
Like "I'm 0.002% German, 25% Italian... bla bla...", but don't even speak the language, let alone ever been to those places. And now "indigenous Europeans"??? Give me a break.
You're American and you're white. Get over it. Seriously, talk to people from other contries, it sounds ridiculous and nobody else does this.

Signed,

A true European (born and raised)

No, they refer to people who were born and raised in Germany as "Turks". Or at least, that's what my cousins in Germany do.

Ah, my German Oma, in German, born & raised, refers to Germans as... Germans.

Yes, my German cousins also refer to Germans as Germans. The question is, how does your Oma refer to people who live in Germany and are Muslim and of Turkish ancestry?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do so many Americans always want to pretend they're something they aren't and try to exoticize themselves?
Like "I'm 0.002% German, 25% Italian... bla bla...", but don't even speak the language, let alone ever been to those places. And now "indigenous Europeans"??? Give me a break.
You're American and you're white. Get over it. Seriously, talk to people from other contries, it sounds ridiculous and nobody else does this.

Signed,

A true European (born and raised)

No, they refer to people who were born and raised in Germany as "Turks". Or at least, that's what my cousins in Germany do.

Ah, my German Oma, in German, born & raised, refers to Germans as... Germans.

Yes, my German cousins also refer to Germans as Germans. The question is, how does your Oma refer to people who live in Germany and are Muslim and of Turkish ancestry?

Where do you see that question above? I didn't see it, sorry.

I'm sure she would refer to them as Turkish if they weren't native Germans as Muslim is their religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike the term "white" as it is not very descriptive. White people have Euro ancestry. Do you like the term "white" or would you prefer another term to refer to your skin color or ancestral background?

White Americans who live here now lived in Europe for thousands of years, and are thus indigenous to that continent. What would be a better term for them?

I'm fine with "white", thanks, but if you prefer "primarily European ancestry", I'm fine with that, too.

For what it's worth, I have not lived in Europe for thousands of years (I did live there for one year, though); and you're also erasing a whole lot of migration of people through Asia and Europe.

NP. I agree with you, but there might be a point to be made here. To some extent, white Americans are not allowed the same pride of socio-identity/heritage as everyone else. So that leads to them acting out in unfortunate ways, politically and otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do so many Americans always want to pretend they're something they aren't and try to exoticize themselves?
Like "I'm 0.002% German, 25% Italian... bla bla...", but don't even speak the language, let alone ever been to those places. And now "indigenous Europeans"??? Give me a break.
You're American and you're white. Get over it. Seriously, talk to people from other contries, it sounds ridiculous and nobody else does this.

Signed,

A true European (born and raised)

No, they refer to people who were born and raised in Germany as "Turks". Or at least, that's what my cousins in Germany do.

Ah, my German Oma, in German, born & raised, refers to Germans as... Germans.

Yes, my German cousins also refer to Germans as Germans. The question is, how does your Oma refer to people who live in Germany and are Muslim and of Turkish ancestry?

Where do you see that question above? I didn't see it, sorry.

I'm sure she would refer to them as Turkish if they weren't native Germans as Muslim is their religion.

Yes, she would call Germans of Turkish ancestry Turks. Now, what were you saying about people from the US and their ridiculous, unique hang-ups about identity?

[Anonymous]

Persian is an ethnicity. Iran is 61% Persian, so Iranian and Persian is not interchangeable, since a good chunk of the population is not Persian.

[Anonymous]

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NP. I agree with you, but there might be a point to be made here. To some extent, white Americans are not allowed the same pride of socio-identity/heritage as everyone else. So that leads to them acting out in unfortunate ways, politically and otherwise.

Eh? What's Saint Patrick's Day, for example?

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Anonymous wrote:Except that young Latinos and Hispanics disagree and again self select. It cycles - sometimes Hispanic is preferred and sometimes Latino is preferred. Sometimes it's neither!

What your are referring to are increasingly archaic descriptors:

Spanish refers to a person whose family is of Spanish heritage, a family of Spaniards.

Latinos are geographically connected as it denotes a shared background of Latin American countries.

Hispanic refers to a linguistic connection to the Spanish language.

On one hand, I am Latina and Hispanic - my mothers family is from a Central American country and I speak Spanish. My father's family is all white from England. So what am I? An indigenous European Hispanic Latina?

My friend from Brazil is Latina and Brazilian but not Hispanic.

However my Brazilian friend, Dominican friend, and I share a love of plantains and salsa music. We are connected in a way we understand and the current options of Hispanic and Latino aren't good enough which is why they are at this point used interchangeably.

we gladly self identify by country for World Cup though!

You sound attractive and interesting! Can I have your number? Email?

Agreed. I would enjoy meeting this person.

[Anonymous]

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NP. I agree with you, but there might be a point to be made here. To some extent, white Americans are not allowed the same pride of socio-identity/heritage as everyone else. So that leads to them acting out in unfortunate ways, politically and otherwise.

Eh? What's Saint Patrick's Day, for example?

A generic holiday for wearing green and drinking? It may feel special for some whites, but I don't know lots of white people who think it is all about honoring their heritage. Do you find there to be a lot of white people who take that holiday quite seriously?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Persian is an ethnicity. Iran is 61% Persian, so Iranian and Persian is not interchangeable, since a good chunk of the population is not Persian.

Thank you.

The title of this post is beyond stupid. Obviously the OP has zero idea what the word indigenous means. However, I'm appalled that people don't know the difference between ethnicity and geopolitical boundaries for countries or empires.

Romans weren't all "Roman," but they all lived under the same empire. Do you understand Prussia poster and the rest of you lunkheads?

[Anonymous]

Maybe "of Native European descent" would be better than the use of the term indigenous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Persian is an ethnicity. Iran is 61% Persian, so Iranian and Persian is not interchangeable, since a good chunk of the population is not Persian.

Thank you.

The title of this post is beyond stupid. Obviously the OP has zero idea what the word indigenous means. However, I'm appalled that people don't know the difference between ethnicity and geopolitical boundaries for countries or empires.

Romans weren't all "Roman," but they all lived under the same empire. Do you understand Prussia poster and the rest of you lunkheads?

There is no Persia. And Persian does not equal Roman.