Breitbart Meltdown

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are two things I would like to comment on as a conservative.

1. Breitbart is the right's equivalent to Mother Jones or HuffPo. No one takes them as serious journalists. Congratulations to the posters here that figured it out.

2. This "battery" charge is a joke. Unwanted touching by another person is technically a battery. I get batteried in the Metro every day. This so-called "reporter" needs to put her big girl pants on if she wants to be an aggressive beat reporter. Also, from looking at the video, I don't see where she was "almost pushed to the floor". The anti-Trumpers are getting desperate I guess. This charge will get laughed out of court.

This Michelle Fields also has her name involved in the Ted Cruz affairs story. I'm guessing she likes attention or is some kind of nut job.

I am not a conservative but this frivolous lawsuit has no merit. It may be an attempt to deflect Cruz's sex scandal. From the video at no point she was pushed to the ground as she originally claimed. You can't even tell if she is bumped or not from the video. Can she be sued for filing bogus lawsuit?

She never claimed to have been pushed to the ground. What's funny is that Lewandowski claimed that he never touched her. He obviously lied.

For the record, she can't be sued for filing a bogus lawsuit because she didn't file a lawsuit. She filed a criminal complaint and local prosecutors decided the evidence supported pressing charges.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he erred rather than lied, as this is the kind of "battery" that almost certainly happens daily on the campaign trail given the crowding and jostling, etc., and I could see it being forgotten soon after it occurred. He certainly needs to explain himself given the video, however, and he does sound like kind of a jerk, and not in the fun way that Mr. Trump sometimes does.

But, in any event, I have utter confidence in the courts of the State of Florida to sort though the facts and do justice in connection with this heinous crime. Let justice be done, though the heavens fall! (Would that such crimes were as aggressively prosecuted here in the District; I've been subject to such criminal battery often on the metro myself. lol)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are two things I would like to comment on as a conservative.

1. Breitbart is the right's equivalent to Mother Jones or HuffPo. No one takes them as serious journalists. Congratulations to the posters here that figured it out.

2. This "battery" charge is a joke. Unwanted touching by another person is technically a battery. I get batteried in the Metro every day. This so-called "reporter" needs to put her big girl pants on if she wants to be an aggressive beat reporter. Also, from looking at the video, I don't see where she was "almost pushed to the floor". The anti-Trumpers are getting desperate I guess. This charge will get laughed out of court.

This Michelle Fields also has her name involved in the Ted Cruz affairs story. I'm guessing she likes attention or is some kind of nut job.

I am not a conservative but this frivolous lawsuit has no merit. It may be an attempt to deflect Cruz's sex scandal. From the video at no point she was pushed to the ground as she originally claimed. You can't even tell if she is bumped or not from the video. Can she be sued for filing bogus lawsuit?

She never claimed to have been pushed to the ground. What's funny is that Lewandowski claimed that he never touched her. He obviously lied.

For the record, she can't be sued for filing a bogus lawsuit because she didn't file a lawsuit. She filed a criminal complaint and local prosecutors decided the evidence supported pressing charges.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he erred rather than lied, as this is the kind of "battery" that almost certainly happens daily on the campaign trail given the crowding and jostling, etc., and I could see it being forgotten soon after it occurred. He certainly needs to explain himself given the video, however, and he does sound like kind of a jerk, and not in the fun way that Mr. Trump sometimes does.

But, in any event, I have utter confidence in the courts of the State of Florida to sort though the facts and do justice in connection with this heinous crime. Let justice be done, though the heavens fall! (Would that such crimes were as aggressively prosecuted here in the District; I've been subject to such criminal battery often on the metro myself. lol)

I would say ordinarily if you identify your "attacker" on the metro, then if you report it to the police, something might happen, especially if they publicly call you deranged and a liar. In today's atmosphere of danger and crime on the metro, then yes, I think metro police and MPD would take you very seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are two things I would like to comment on as a conservative.

1. Breitbart is the right's equivalent to Mother Jones or HuffPo. No one takes them as serious journalists. Congratulations to the posters here that figured it out.

2. This "battery" charge is a joke. Unwanted touching by another person is technically a battery. I get batteried in the Metro every day. This so-called "reporter" needs to put her big girl pants on if she wants to be an aggressive beat reporter. Also, from looking at the video, I don't see where she was "almost pushed to the floor". The anti-Trumpers are getting desperate I guess. This charge will get laughed out of court.

This Michelle Fields also has her name involved in the Ted Cruz affairs story. I'm guessing she likes attention or is some kind of nut job.

I am not a conservative but this frivolous lawsuit has no merit. It may be an attempt to deflect Cruz's sex scandal. From the video at no point she was pushed to the ground as she originally claimed. You can't even tell if she is bumped or not from the video. Can she be sued for filing bogus lawsuit?

She never claimed to have been pushed to the ground. What's funny is that Lewandowski claimed that he never touched her. He obviously lied.

For the record, she can't be sued for filing a bogus lawsuit because she didn't file a lawsuit. She filed a criminal complaint and local prosecutors decided the evidence supported pressing charges.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he erred rather than lied, as this is the kind of "battery" that almost certainly happens daily on the campaign trail given the crowding and jostling, etc., and I could see it being forgotten soon after it occurred. He certainly needs to explain himself given the video, however, and he does sound like kind of a jerk, and not in the fun way that Mr. Trump sometimes does.

But, in any event, I have utter confidence in the courts of the State of Florida to sort though the facts and do justice in connection with this heinous crime. Let justice be done, though the heavens fall! (Would that such crimes were as aggressively prosecuted here in the District; I've been subject to such criminal battery often on the metro myself. lol)

I would say ordinarily if you identify your "attacker" on the metro, then if you report it to the police, something might happen, especially if they publicly call you deranged and a liar. In today's atmosphere of danger and crime on the metro, then yes, I think metro police and MPD would take you very seriously.

Really? If someone grabbed your arm on the Metro to move you out of the way and you reported it, they would laugh at you. They take real criminal assaults very lightly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are two things I would like to comment on as a conservative.

1. Breitbart is the right's equivalent to Mother Jones or HuffPo. No one takes them as serious journalists. Congratulations to the posters here that figured it out.

2. This "battery" charge is a joke. Unwanted touching by another person is technically a battery. I get batteried in the Metro every day. This so-called "reporter" needs to put her big girl pants on if she wants to be an aggressive beat reporter. Also, from looking at the video, I don't see where she was "almost pushed to the floor". The anti-Trumpers are getting desperate I guess. This charge will get laughed out of court.

This Michelle Fields also has her name involved in the Ted Cruz affairs story. I'm guessing she likes attention or is some kind of nut job.

I am not a conservative but this frivolous lawsuit has no merit. It may be an attempt to deflect Cruz's sex scandal. From the video at no point she was pushed to the ground as she originally claimed. You can't even tell if she is bumped or not from the video. Can she be sued for filing bogus lawsuit?

She never claimed to have been pushed to the ground. What's funny is that Lewandowski claimed that he never touched her. He obviously lied.

For the record, she can't be sued for filing a bogus lawsuit because she didn't file a lawsuit. She filed a criminal complaint and local prosecutors decided the evidence supported pressing charges.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he erred rather than lied, as this is the kind of "battery" that almost certainly happens daily on the campaign trail given the crowding and jostling, etc., and I could see it being forgotten soon after it occurred. He certainly needs to explain himself given the video, however, and he does sound like kind of a jerk, and not in the fun way that Mr. Trump sometimes does.

But, in any event, I have utter confidence in the courts of the State of Florida to sort though the facts and do justice in connection with this heinous crime. Let justice be done, though the heavens fall! (Would that such crimes were as aggressively prosecuted here in the District; I've been subject to such criminal battery often on the metro myself. lol)

I would say ordinarily if you identify your "attacker" on the metro, then if you report it to the police, something might happen, especially if they publicly call you deranged and a liar. In today's atmosphere of danger and crime on the metro, then yes, I think metro police and MPD would take you very seriously.

My own take is that Lewandowki was a jerk for doing it; Fields was a jerk for filing a criminal complaint over such a minor incident; the prosecutors in Florida are exercising very poor judgment in commencing a criminal case over such a minor incident; the media is being very silly and blowing this kerfuffle way out of proportion; and public opinion on Trump will not be changed one iota: the #NeverTrump people will have one more reason to be anti-Trump---as if there weren't already a legion of such reasons---and people who are Trump supporters or merely Trump-curious will view this as a trivial and inconsequential incident.

I have no dog in this fight, myself, other than wishing that "de minimis not curat lex" was a maxim that was accorded more respect than it often seems to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are two things I would like to comment on as a conservative.

1. Breitbart is the right's equivalent to Mother Jones or HuffPo. No one takes them as serious journalists. Congratulations to the posters here that figured it out.

2. This "battery" charge is a joke. Unwanted touching by another person is technically a battery. I get batteried in the Metro every day. This so-called "reporter" needs to put her big girl pants on if she wants to be an aggressive beat reporter. Also, from looking at the video, I don't see where she was "almost pushed to the floor". The anti-Trumpers are getting desperate I guess. This charge will get laughed out of court.

This Michelle Fields also has her name involved in the Ted Cruz affairs story. I'm guessing she likes attention or is some kind of nut job.

I am not a conservative but this frivolous lawsuit has no merit. It may be an attempt to deflect Cruz's sex scandal. From the video at no point she was pushed to the ground as she originally claimed. You can't even tell if she is bumped or not from the video. Can she be sued for filing bogus lawsuit?

She never claimed to have been pushed to the ground. What's funny is that Lewandowski claimed that he never touched her. He obviously lied.

For the record, she can't be sued for filing a bogus lawsuit because she didn't file a lawsuit. She filed a criminal complaint and local prosecutors decided the evidence supported pressing charges.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he erred rather than lied, as this is the kind of "battery" that almost certainly happens daily on the campaign trail given the crowding and jostling, etc., and I could see it being forgotten soon after it occurred. He certainly needs to explain himself given the video, however, and he does sound like kind of a jerk, and not in the fun way that Mr. Trump sometimes does.

But, in any event, I have utter confidence in the courts of the State of Florida to sort though the facts and do justice in connection with this heinous crime. Let justice be done, though the heavens fall! (Would that such crimes were as aggressively prosecuted here in the District; I've been subject to such criminal battery often on the metro myself. lol)

I would say ordinarily if you identify your "attacker" on the metro, then if you report it to the police, something might happen, especially if they publicly call you deranged and a liar. In today's atmosphere of danger and crime on the metro, then yes, I think metro police and MPD would take you very seriously.

My own take is that Lewandowki was a jerk for doing it; Fields was a jerk for filing a criminal complaint over such a minor incident; the prosecutors in Florida are exercising very poor judgment in commencing a criminal case over such a minor incident; the media is being very silly and blowing this kerfuffle way out of proportion; and public opinion on Trump will not be changed one iota: the #NeverTrump people will have one more reason to be anti-Trump---as if there weren't already a legion of such reasons---and people who are Trump supporters or merely Trump-curious will view this as a trivial and inconsequential incident.

I have no dog in this fight, myself, other than wishing that "de minimis not curat lex" was a maxim that was accorded more respect than it often seems to be.

You pretty much nailed it. Much ado about nothing. There will be no discussion of issues this fall - just more nonsense and faux outrage like this from both sides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Has anyone else been paying attention to the Breitbart soap opera? I'm ashamed at how much I'm enjoying it. For those who haven't followed developments, here is a recap:

1) Following a Trump rally, Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields started asking Trump a question as he was passing through a crowd of reporters and photographers;

2) Fields was roughly pulled from behind by her arm, almost falling to the ground and ending up with a bruised arm;

3) Fields believed her assailant was Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and that was confirmed by Washington Post reporter Ben Terris who witnessed it;

4) Lewandowski denied that he had touched Fields, called her "deranged", and said he had never even met her;

5) Breitbart's editor asked Trump's campaign for an apology but Trump himself denied anything had happened Fields;

6) The Daily Beast (or maybe the Daily Caller, one of them) published a leak that Lewandowski had told the Breitbart editor he was sorry for roughing up Fields but he didn't recognize her and thought he was from the mainstream media (both Lewandowski and the editor deny this);

7) Brietbart folks began both defending and questing Field's account and eventually Breitbart published an article accusing Terris of the Post of misidentifying Lewandowski (Terris stands by his identification);

8) Brietbart based it's claims on video showing Lewandowski on the opposite side of Trump from Fields, but video has emerged showing Lewandowski moving behind Trump and reaching his arm toward Fields, providing video support if not complete proof of her claims;

9) An audio recording of Terris and Fields just after her assault supports their claims that it was Lewandowski;

10) The PR person for Breitbart resigned due to the lack of support for Fields and claimed that Breitbart was in the bag for Trump;

11) Fields filed a criminal complaint against Lewandowski;

12) Fields and Breitbart report Ben Shapiro both resigned in protest with Shapiro saying that Breitbart had been turned into "Trump's personal Pravda";

13) A leaked email showed the Brietbart editor had been pursuing a job as a speech writer with Trump's campaign;

14) After Fields and Shapiro resigned, Breitbart published an article ridiculing Shapiro;

15) The article was published under a pseudonym used by Shapiro's father and revealed the Shaprio's father's true identity;

16) The article was removed and replaced with an "Editor's note" saying that a staffer had inappropriately published the article (the "staffer" and the "editor" are one and the same);

17) Shapiro's father also resigned from Breitbart and more resignations are expected.

where did you lift this list from? Or are we to believe you wrote all that?

It's from this morning's Top Secret DNC Talking Points Memo.

Actually it is probably from the RNC's secret memo since THEY are the ones that most want Trump out of the race. LOL

[Anonymous]

If you bruise someone, they are going to charge you.

[Anonymous]

Do people have their heads so far up Trump's arse that they condoning the incident and the way it was handled?

Even if the grabbing was an "accident," you defuse this whole situation by apologizing. "I sincerely apologize for the incident. It was inadvertent. She is a fine reporter." Done. Problem resolved.

But by doubling down, calling the woman derogatory names and such gave the issue legs. Folks can blames anti-Trumps and MSM all they want. Trump's camp fumbled this ball. And Trump, as the candidate, should have instructed his person to apologize so that we can move on and focus on bigger issues. You know, he should have been Presidential and diplomatic.

[Anonymous]

This was no assault, I saw the video. She was going right up to Trump and he tried to stop her. She is pathetic to file a criminal report, what a hack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was no assault, I saw the video. She was going right up to Trump and he tried to stop her. She is pathetic to file a criminal report, what a hack.

I saw the video. He grabbed her and moved her back a foot. I grab my toddler's arm and move him a foot all the time but don't leave a bruise. Lewandowski grabbed her so roughly he left a bruise, which is apparently his usual manner of interaction with people. If he cannot keep from leaving bruises when touching people, then he has a problem.

Beyond the actual incident was his response, the response of Breitbart, and Trump. She wasn't wrong to file a police report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was no assault, I saw the video. She was going right up to Trump and he tried to stop her. She is pathetic to file a criminal report, what a hack.

He was charged with battery, not assault.

Florida statutes:

784.03?Battery; felony battery.—
(1)(a)?The offense of battery occurs when a person:
1.?Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or
2.?Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.
(b)?Except as provided in subsection (2), a person who commits battery commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(2)?A person who has one prior conviction for battery, aggravated battery, or felony battery and who commits any second or subsequent battery commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. For purposes of this subsection, “conviction” means a determination of guilt that is the result of a plea or a trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld or a plea of nolo contendere is entered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are two things I would like to comment on as a conservative.

1. Breitbart is the right's equivalent to Mother Jones or HuffPo. No one takes them as serious journalists. Congratulations to the posters here that figured it out.

2. This "battery" charge is a joke. Unwanted touching by another person is technically a battery. I get batteried in the Metro every day. This so-called "reporter" needs to put her big girl pants on if she wants to be an aggressive beat reporter. Also, from looking at the video, I don't see where she was "almost pushed to the floor". The anti-Trumpers are getting desperate I guess. This charge will get laughed out of court.

This Michelle Fields also has her name involved in the Ted Cruz affairs story. I'm guessing she likes attention or is some kind of nut job.

I am not a conservative but this frivolous lawsuit has no merit. It may be an attempt to deflect Cruz's sex scandal. From the video at no point she was pushed to the ground as she originally claimed. You can't even tell if she is bumped or not from the video. Can she be sued for filing bogus lawsuit?

She never claimed to have been pushed to the ground. What's funny is that Lewandowski claimed that he never touched her. He obviously lied.

For the record, she can't be sued for filing a bogus lawsuit because she didn't file a lawsuit. She filed a criminal complaint and local prosecutors decided the evidence supported pressing charges.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he erred rather than lied, as this is the kind of "battery" that almost certainly happens daily on the campaign trail given the crowding and jostling, etc., and I could see it being forgotten soon after it occurred. He certainly needs to explain himself given the video, however, and he does sound like kind of a jerk, and not in the fun way that Mr. Trump sometimes does.

But, in any event, I have utter confidence in the courts of the State of Florida to sort though the facts and do justice in connection with this heinous crime. Let justice be done, though the heavens fall! (Would that such crimes were as aggressively prosecuted here in the District; I've been subject to such criminal battery often on the metro myself. lol)

You've often had people grab your arm so hard that they left bruises or something similar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking forward to her essay exploring her cognitive dissonance in a more credible publication.

I realize that Drumpf can credential anyone it wants, but I'm appalled that Breitbart would be considered "news" by anyone.

None of this is surprising to me. It's very amusing how these conservative rags like to play at journalism. They're so ham-handed, clumsy, and hilarious. I don't mean to pile on the girl, but is she really shocked at the misogynistic treatment from these people?

Yes to all of this.

Count me in, too.

[Anonymous]

Breitbart sided with the Trump campaign over their own reporter Michelle Fields. Fields then resigned since they didn't stand by her. Apparently this is a history with this woman. Piers Morgan tweeted that Field needs to toughen up, lol.

[Anonymous]

This reporter, Fields, is looking for fame. She was in no way "almost thrown to the ground". I don't know about the bruising part, but I find it hard to believe that this Trump guy (doesn't look that big or strong) could do much damage by grabbing her arm. He follows Trump around in the crowds. It is reasonably to me that he doesn't remember every single person he interacts with on the rope line. It looks like a lot of pushing and shoving is the norm. The hysteria in the media over this is a joke. There are a lot of arguments to oppose Trump, this isn't one of them.