Union College vs. Connecticut College

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Anonymous wrote:Conn Coll is in the NESCAC which is probably good for its reputation but it's widely recognized to be the least prestigious of the member institutions.


Not anymore, your info is dated. I taught at Trinity in the early/mid 90s when it was better than Conn College, and Wesleyan wasn't what it is now. Schools rise and fall, times change. Conn is better than Trinity now, and Wesleyan is much more highly ranked than it used to be. (keeping it down to the CT NESCACs).

DC is currently crossing his fingers for Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, or Conn, having decided against Hamilton and Trinity.


Just curious...why not Hamilton?
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Anonymous wrote:Conn Coll is in the NESCAC which is probably good for its reputation but it's widely recognized to be the least prestigious of the member institutions.


Not anymore, your info is dated. I taught at Trinity in the early/mid 90s when it was better than Conn College, and Wesleyan wasn't what it is now. Schools rise and fall, times change. Conn is better than Trinity now, and Wesleyan is much more highly ranked than it used to be. (keeping it down to the CT NESCACs).

DC is currently crossing his fingers for Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, or Conn, having decided against Hamilton and Trinity.


No snark here. I live in CT and I was wondering is Conn better than Trinity now because Conn is improving or because Trinity is declining ? Also, Wesleyan was always very well regarded so I wasn’t aware that their ranking improved. All the folks that I’ve known over the years that have attended have all been very smart. I will say that we left the Wesleyan tour early because the students came across as intellectually arrogant - it was not a great vibe.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conn Coll is in the NESCAC which is probably good for its reputation but it's widely recognized to be the least prestigious of the member institutions.


Not anymore, your info is dated. I taught at Trinity in the early/mid 90s when it was better than Conn College, and Wesleyan wasn't what it is now. Schools rise and fall, times change. Conn is better than Trinity now, and Wesleyan is much more highly ranked than it used to be. (keeping it down to the CT NESCACs).

DC is currently crossing his fingers for Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, or Conn, having decided against Hamilton and Trinity.


Just curious...why not Hamilton?


He hated the location. Spent time there 2 yrs in a row (for sports training) and just said it was bad enough in summer, when the weather was nice. It's a depressed and dying part of upstate NY, far from anything, so I couldn't really argue it. The campus itself is nice, but very small.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conn Coll is in the NESCAC which is probably good for its reputation but it's widely recognized to be the least prestigious of the member institutions.


Not anymore, your info is dated. I taught at Trinity in the early/mid 90s when it was better than Conn College, and Wesleyan wasn't what it is now. Schools rise and fall, times change. Conn is better than Trinity now, and Wesleyan is much more highly ranked than it used to be. (keeping it down to the CT NESCACs).

DC is currently crossing his fingers for Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, or Conn, having decided against Hamilton and Trinity.


No snark here. I live in CT and I was wondering is Conn better than Trinity now because Conn is improving or because Trinity is declining ? Also, Wesleyan was always very well regarded so I wasn’t aware that their ranking improved. All the folks that I’ve known over the years that have attended have all been very smart. I will say that we left the Wesleyan tour early because the students came across as intellectually arrogant - it was not a great vibe.



I think a little of both, but more heavily because Trinity is still struggling with their location. Which of course they can't help, but it creates a cyclical effect of not drawing the best students, etc. Conn has been working hard to be more academically challenging, I think. Wesleyan is improving in that MIddletown today is better than it was in the mid90s. That helps them in the same way location hurts Trinity. Also see my remarks about Hamilton. While none of those things directly impact a college's intellectual rigor, they do impact it more obliquely when students with more options go elsewhere, better faculty don't want to live there to teach, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conn Coll is in the NESCAC which is probably good for its reputation but it's widely recognized to be the least prestigious of the member institutions.


Not anymore, your info is dated. I taught at Trinity in the early/mid 90s when it was better than Conn College, and Wesleyan wasn't what it is now. Schools rise and fall, times change. Conn is better than Trinity now, and Wesleyan is much more highly ranked than it used to be. (keeping it down to the CT NESCACs).

DC is currently crossing his fingers for Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, or Conn, having decided against Hamilton and Trinity.


No snark here. I live in CT and I was wondering is Conn better than Trinity now because Conn is improving or because Trinity is declining ? Also, Wesleyan was always very well regarded so I wasn’t aware that their ranking improved. All the folks that I’ve known over the years that have attended have all been very smart. I will say that we left the Wesleyan tour early because the students came across as intellectually arrogant - it was not a great vibe.



I think a little of both, but more heavily because Trinity is still struggling with their location. Which of course they can't help, but it creates a cyclical effect of not drawing the best students, etc. Conn has been working hard to be more academically challenging, I think. Wesleyan is improving in that MIddletown today is better than it was in the mid90s. That helps them in the same way location hurts Trinity. Also see my remarks about Hamilton. While none of those things directly impact a college's intellectual rigor, they do impact it more obliquely when students with more options go elsewhere, better faculty don't want to live there to teach, etc.


Thank you. I was curious as to your perspective. Good luck to you and your DS.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conn Coll is in the NESCAC which is probably good for its reputation but it's widely recognized to be the least prestigious of the member institutions.


Not anymore, your info is dated. I taught at Trinity in the early/mid 90s when it was better than Conn College, and Wesleyan wasn't what it is now. Schools rise and fall, times change. Conn is better than Trinity now, and Wesleyan is much more highly ranked than it used to be. (keeping it down to the CT NESCACs).

DC is currently crossing his fingers for Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, or Conn, having decided against Hamilton and Trinity.


Just curious...why not Hamilton?


He hated the location. Spent time there 2 yrs in a row (for sports training) and just said it was bad enough in summer, when the weather was nice. It's a depressed and dying part of upstate NY, far from anything, so I couldn't really argue it. The campus itself is nice, but very small.


Thanks, PP! Hamilton sounded so appealing when I've read about it, but I guess it's another example that really emphasizes the importance of visiting.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conn Coll is in the NESCAC which is probably good for its reputation but it's widely recognized to be the least prestigious of the member institutions.


Not anymore, your info is dated. I taught at Trinity in the early/mid 90s when it was better than Conn College, and Wesleyan wasn't what it is now. Schools rise and fall, times change. Conn is better than Trinity now, and Wesleyan is much more highly ranked than it used to be. (keeping it down to the CT NESCACs).

DC is currently crossing his fingers for Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, or Conn, having decided against Hamilton and Trinity.


No snark here. I live in CT and I was wondering is Conn better than Trinity now because Conn is improving or because Trinity is declining ? Also, Wesleyan was always very well regarded so I wasn’t aware that their ranking improved. All the folks that I’ve known over the years that have attended have all been very smart. I will say that we left the Wesleyan tour early because the students came across as intellectually arrogant - it was not a great vibe.


Sounds like you got an outlier of a tour guide at Wes. DC is there so I’m admittedly biased but the all of the students I’ve met are intellectually curious but very down to earth. I graduated from another Nescac where “intellectually arrogant” might have been a reasonable descriptor but honestly, that’s not Wes at all.
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