DC will pay residents not to commit crime

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Obama's "criminal justice reform" has already released 6,000 convicted felons onto America's streets.

Convicts - who would otherwise be in prison right now.

And DeBlasio is busy dis-mantling the exact programs that vastly reduced crime in NYC.

So it is no surprise that the crime rate is going up.

We are now led to believe that the solution to increasing crime is simply to "throw money at the problem" ??

This "solution" is utterly stupid. If this idea is representative of "progressive thinking," then count me out.

I know, right? DeBlasio was clearly responsible for the uptick in crime in DC last year.

Laugh it up. The dead bodies will pile up at an increasing rate in DC; just as they are in Baltimore. And NYC. Policies, like elections, have consequences.

But you go on; make jokes.

Did you read the article? In California, when they implemented the program, the homicide and assault rates decreased dramatically. It may not work as well in DC as it did in CA, but there's no reason to think that the program will result in dead bodies piling up. More generally, there's no reason to think that DC is like Baltimore or will become like Baltimore.

I don't give a damn how they do it in California. Paying criminals not to commit crimes is a stupid idea.

You can pay a mobster protection money (extortion) and they will not beat you up. Same exact thing.

I have a better idea: arrest, prosecute, and incarcerate. At least they will not be victimizing the public while they are locked up.

Are you saying you'd rather shell out thousands possibly hundreds of thousands over time to incarcerate a person in prison? That doesn't make financial sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama's "criminal justice reform" has already released 6,000 convicted felons onto America's streets.

Convicts - who would otherwise be in prison right now.

And DeBlasio is busy dis-mantling the exact programs that vastly reduced crime in NYC.

So it is no surprise that the crime rate is going up.

We are now led to believe that the solution to increasing crime is simply to "throw money at the problem" ??

This "solution" is utterly stupid. If this idea is representative of "progressive thinking," then count me out.

isn't a key part of that, that the people are supposed to be "non violent" offenders?

[Anonymous]

The sound bite seems pretty damning, but when you actually read about the program it makes perfect sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obama's "criminal justice reform" has already released 6,000 convicted felons onto America's streets.

Convicts - who would otherwise be in prison right now.

And DeBlasio is busy dis-mantling the exact programs that vastly reduced crime in NYC.

So it is no surprise that the crime rate is going up.

We are now led to believe that the solution to increasing crime is simply to "throw money at the problem" ??

This "solution" is utterly stupid. If this idea is representative of "progressive thinking," then count me out.

isn't a key part of that, that the people are supposed to be "non violent" offenders?

Yes, like the meth-cook they profiled in the WaPo. What's wrong with living next to a meth-cook? I mean, what's the worst that could happen to you or your kids living among meth cooks and low level dealers? Sounds great!

[Anonymous]

^^^^^^forgot the eye-rolls. Use imagination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We already pay for welfare, food stamps, housing, phones, etc, now we gotta pay for them to not kill, rape and steal. Wow! Liberals

If someone who would have otherwise robbed, raped, or killed you, didn't do so because he was tied up in this program, would you be for it then?
Lives will be saved. You just don't care because you don't think it'll be your own.

[Anonymous]

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But the cost of a police officer is only a fraction of the cost of ineffective policing. There's also court costs, incarceration costs, and the cost to victims. And none of it working.

The benefit goes beyond reducing violence by transforming offenders into law-abiding citizens.

But all of that money goes to law abiding citizens in the form of jobs. You pay police to arrest the criminals, court officials to process their trials, and of course if they are found guilty, there's money to be paid to the prisons (guard salaries, food costs etc.)

If you just pay that money outright to the people likely to commit crimes and deter them from committing the crimes -- won't a lot of people be out of work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obama's "criminal justice reform" has already released 6,000 convicted felons onto America's streets.

Convicts - who would otherwise be in prison right now.

And DeBlasio is busy dis-mantling the exact programs that vastly reduced crime in NYC.

So it is no surprise that the crime rate is going up.

We are now led to believe that the solution to increasing crime is simply to "throw money at the problem" ??

This "solution" is utterly stupid. If this idea is representative of "progressive thinking," then count me out.

isn't a key part of that, that the people are supposed to be "non violent" offenders?

The white guy profiled by WaPo was convicted for cooking meth (ie - Breaking Bad).

Ever see what meth does to people? It's often distributed by Hells Angels/biker gangs.

But he was not, technically, convicted for any violence he may have committed.

[Anonymous]

Never mind, DC is not going to pay residents not to commit crimes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-abandons-plan-to-pay-criminals-to-stay-out-of-trouble/2016/05/05/6e4ad018-12af-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_dccrime-1115am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

[Anonymous]

Perhaps. But they tried.

And that says plenty about their thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never mind, DC is not going to pay residents not to commit crimes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-abandons-plan-to-pay-criminals-to-stay-out-of-trouble/2016/05/05/6e4ad018-12af-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_dccrime-1115am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

The following quote from that article is quite telling:

"One national study has grouped D.C. with Chicago and Baltimore, with the three cities combined accounting for the majority of increased homicides in major cities nationwide last year."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on a successful program in California. I wonder who would be a beneficiary of the program?

http://wtop.com/dc/2016/02/dc-bill-would-pay-people-stipends-not-to-commit-crimes/

The D.C. Council voted unanimously Tuesday to approve a bill that includes a proposal to pay residents a stipend not to commit crimes. It’s based on a program in Richmond, California, that advocates say has contributed to deep reductions in crime there.

Under the bill, city officials would identify up to 200 people a year who are considered at risk of either committing or becoming victims of violent crime. Those people would be directed to participate in behavioral therapy and other programs. If they fulfill those obligations and stay out of trouble, they would be paid.

Good God. Isn't America great??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We already pay for welfare, food stamps, housing, phones, etc, now we gotta pay for them to not kill, rape and steal. Wow! Liberals

You do realize we pay for them when we put them in jail too, right? Probably a lot more than we pay through this program. At least this way, they might not commit a crime against an innocent person.

I don't commit any crime. When will my check come?

[Anonymous]

This is just total bs, liberal bs is just out of control