Nah. This thread works just fine. |
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Again, you are creating fictions that suit your own purpose. How about this expert in autism, who discounts your rosy view? She's the creator of the ADOS, the "gold standard" tool of ASD diagostics: http://nymag.com/news/features/autism-spectrum-2012-11/index6.html For clinicians in the trenches, the more exuberant efforts to link autism with genius can be exasperating. “Do blind people hear music more exquisitely than people with sight?” asks Siegel. “We don’t have any neurophysiological evidence that they do.” Similarly, most people with Asperger’s have average intelligence, with high IQs the exception. And many with ASD, and the families who care for them, suffer terribly. “There clearly are people with ASD who marry,” says Catherine Lord, director of the Center for Autism and the Developing Brain at Weill Cornell Medical College, “but they are not many. More and more people with ASD have jobs, but the majority are underemployed, or have jobs that don’t use their capabilities as much as possible. So these references to Einstein and Jefferson are not helpful.” |
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There is a split even among clinicians about how "functional" or not one has to be to have Asperger's.
Lorna Wing (the psychologist who translated Hans Asperger's work and first introduced "Asperger's" to the world), Tony Attwood, Simon Baron Cohen and Hans Asperger, himself, would be among those who would say you can be married and have a career while still having Asperger's. In Hans Asperger's paper one of boys who lived in the institute grew up to become a professor of Astronomy. It's been speculated by many that Hans Asperger showed many of the same traits as a child as the syndrome named after him. So depends on who you want to believe to make yourself feel better. |
By that I mean people like OP who told his son that there are others like him who achieve great things even with a disability and others who feel the need to tell OP that people who achieve great things could not possibly have "X". Not sure what is the purpose of this other than making someone feel bad about their child having a disability. For every expert who says x, you can always find another who says y especially about the autism spectrum. Imo, it basically comes down to parents who like to tell themselves "at least my kid isn't autistic" bc they can do x, y and z. |
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Clearly people like Einstein and Jefferson and Steve Jobs were not functionally impaired enough (as adults at least) to qualify for a DSM diagnosis. Just as clearly they shared some distinctive traits with our kids. As a child Einstein used to repeat his own sentences under his breath after saying them, just like my Aspie son does. Atari had to banish Steve Jobs to the night shift because his personal hygiene was so bad that people couldn't stand to be around him, and was a narcissist with serious empathy issues. The point of the comparison is not "these guys were exactly like you, so you can do what they did!" It's that the various genes and traits that make up the broader autistic phenotype, and sometimes come together in a way that we call ASD, are present throughout the human race, sometimes associated with remarkable and unique abilities, and nothing to be ashamed of. See also:
http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/10/what-child-prodigies-and-autistic-people-have-in-common/ |