Books for kids about having asd?

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Anonymous wrote:Then do a s/I thread. You are off the topic

Nah. This thread works just fine.
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Anonymous wrote:Then do a s/I thread. You are off the topic

Nah. This thread works just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:OP didn't just make that up. It's widely accepted in the ASD community and by experts that Einstein was on the spectrum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrospective_diagnoses_of_autism

OP, sorry you were so unfairly targeted here. Bunch of ingoramuses. Here's a list of books, hope you'll find a couple that are helpful. At least one of them also lists Einstein as having had ASD. You're a great parent, good luck! http://www.parenting.com/gallery/autism-books?page=2


From your link:

Speculation of this sort is, by necessity, based on reported behavior and anecdotal evidence rather than any clinical observation of the individual. Psychologist and author Oliver Sacks wrote that many of these claims seem "very thin at best",[12] and Fred Volkmar, of the Yale Child Study Center, has remarked that "there is unfortunately a sort of cottage industry of finding that everyone has Asperger's".[13] Michael Fitzgerald's research, in particular, has been heavily criticised, and described by some as "fudged pseudoscience"[14] and "frankly absurd".[15]


You missed the first part:

"Isaac Newton (1643–1727), Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) and Albert Einstein (1879–1955) all died before Asperger syndrome became known, but Ioan James,[4] Michael Fitzgerald,[7] and Simon Baron-Cohen[36] believe their personalities are consistent with those of people with Asperger syndrome. Tony Attwood has also named Einstein as a likely case of mild autism.[23]

So four experts agree on retrospective ASD diagnoses, and two disagree. Elliott disagrees because Einstein had a sense of humor. Hmmm... I know several people with ASD who are hilarious.

Besides, the point is that OP used experts' opinions to present to her child, based on her son's interest in those people's biographies. She did not make up the diagnoses herself. The meanness she experienced here is not warranted.


You simply can't go back in time and (mis)diagnose the dead.

If you actually read the biographies of these people, you'd know they didn't have autism. It's simple wishful thinking on the part of some people today.


How? What makes you more knowledgeable then scientists who study autism?
Are you an expert in the field? Do you have ASD?


I apparently know more than you. Einstein had no repetitive behaviors, and a robust social (and love) life. The facts point to learning differences in his early life, but not to autism.
Maybe you know more wrong things then me. Einstein did hyperfocus on restrictive interests. Absence of repetitive behaviors does not exclude ASD. Neither does being social or loving. You obviously have a warped, ignorant view of autistic people. Remember that plenty of adults are diagnosed today late in life, after getting married and having children. You might work or socialize with an autistic person and not even know it.


Again, you are creating fictions that suit your own purpose. How about this expert in autism, who discounts your rosy view? She's the creator of the ADOS, the "gold standard" tool of ASD diagostics:


http://nymag.com/news/features/autism-spectrum-2012-11/index6.html


For clinicians in the trenches, the more exuberant efforts to link autism with genius can be exasperating
. “Do blind people hear music more exquisitely than people with sight?” asks Siegel. “We don’t have any neuro­physiological evidence that they do.” Similarly, most people with Asperger’s have average intelligence, with high IQs the exception. And many with ASD, and the families who care for them, suffer terribly. “There clearly are people with ASD who marry,” says Catherine Lord, director of the Center for Autism and the Developing Brain at Weill Cornell Medical College, “but they are not many. More and more people with ASD have jobs, but the majority are underemployed, or have jobs that don’t use their capabilities as much as possible. So these references to Einstein and Jefferson are not helpful.”

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There is a split even among clinicians about how "functional" or not one has to be to have Asperger's.

Lorna Wing (the psychologist who translated Hans Asperger's work and first introduced "Asperger's" to the world), Tony Attwood, Simon Baron Cohen and Hans Asperger, himself, would be among those who would say you can be married and have a career while still having Asperger's.

In Hans Asperger's paper one of boys who lived in the institute grew up to become a professor of Astronomy. It's been speculated by many that Hans Asperger showed many of the same traits as a child as the syndrome named after him.

So depends on who you want to believe to make yourself feel better.
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Anonymous wrote:There is a split even among clinicians about how "functional" or not one has to be to have Asperger's.

Lorna Wing (the psychologist who translated Hans Asperger's work and first introduced "Asperger's" to the world), Tony Attwood, Simon Baron Cohen and Hans Asperger, himself, would be among those who would say you can be married and have a career while still having Asperger's.

In Hans Asperger's paper one of boys who lived in the institute grew up to become a professor of Astronomy. It's been speculated by many that Hans Asperger showed many of the same traits as a child as the syndrome named after him.

So depends on who you want to believe to make yourself feel better.


By that I mean people like OP who told his son that there are others like him who achieve great things even with a disability and others who feel the need to tell OP that people who achieve great things could not possibly have "X". Not sure what is the purpose of this other than making someone feel bad about their child having a disability.

For every expert who says x, you can always find another who says y especially about the autism spectrum.

Imo, it basically comes down to parents who like to tell themselves "at least my kid isn't autistic" bc they can do x, y and z.
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Clearly people like Einstein and Jefferson and Steve Jobs were not functionally impaired enough (as adults at least) to qualify for a DSM diagnosis. Just as clearly they shared some distinctive traits with our kids. As a child Einstein used to repeat his own sentences under his breath after saying them, just like my Aspie son does. Atari had to banish Steve Jobs to the night shift because his personal hygiene was so bad that people couldn't stand to be around him, and was a narcissist with serious empathy issues. The point of the comparison is not "these guys were exactly like you, so you can do what they did!" It's that the various genes and traits that make up the broader autistic phenotype, and sometimes come together in a way that we call ASD, are present throughout the human race, sometimes associated with remarkable and unique abilities, and nothing to be ashamed of. See also:

http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/10/what-child-prodigies-and-autistic-people-have-in-common/
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