Common Core: Your preschoolers are too dumb for kindergarten

[Anonymous]

I don't understand this at all, but I'm from VA, not MD. There is no public pre-K and K is only a half day. Are these first graders they're testing? How can K learn much in 1/2 a day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand this at all, but I'm from VA, not MD. There is no public pre-K and K is only a half day. Are these first graders they're testing? How can K learn much in 1/2 a day?

I don't understand it at all, and I'm in MD. The reason you and I don't understand it is because it's factually incorrect and doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No experience with whatever was before CC but I definitely did not think K was too hard. Level 4 in reading is pretty basic. Adding and subtracting to 5 - again this does not seem like a huge task.

Only part of the current curriculum I dislike really is the lack of much differentiation in math. But that is related to how MoCo has put CC into place of course not anything directly related to CC itself.

I have a current MCPS kindergartner and tend to agree with both of the bolded statements. My DD is probably slightly unhealthily interested in the reading levels of other kids in her class, so I know a lot about who is reading at what level. Even the kids who came into kindergarten with limited English and less than optimal preschool experiences are now reading at at least a 4, according to her. She's actually really proud of her peers, and will say "X used to be in a 2, but now she's on level 6. She's catching up to me!" We were lucky enough to have an outstanding preschool experience, so my daughter started the year reading at a Level 4 and the school has done a good job of moving her forward while catching the other kids up.

I also agree about the lack of math differentiation, but again the expectations seem fairly normal and it seems like the kids in her class are meeting them based on the work she's bringing home. I mean, there's limited differentiation, and the worksheets she is completing have her adding and subtracting up to 20, so I think that's the norm in her classroom.

[Anonymous]

Our education system sounds like our medical system, constantly re-defining what qualifies as xyz. Oncologists argue what can qualify as cancer.

Our schools are very messed up, even the best of them. I'd be devastated if there was a sex abuser at my kid's school. Why aren't parents outraged?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our education system sounds like our medical system, constantly re-defining what qualifies as xyz. Oncologists argue what can qualify as cancer.

Our schools are very messed up, even the best of them. I'd be devastated if there was a sex abuser at my kid's school. Why aren't parents outraged?

If you want to talk about sex abusers in schools, please start your own thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No experience with whatever was before CC but I definitely did not think K was too hard. Level 4 in reading is pretty basic. Adding and subtracting to 5 - again this does not seem like a huge task.

Only part of the current curriculum I dislike really is the lack of much differentiation in math. But that is related to how MoCo has put CC into place of course not anything directly related to CC itself.

I have a current MCPS kindergartner and tend to agree with both of the bolded statements. My DD is probably slightly unhealthily interested in the reading levels of other kids in her class, so I know a lot about who is reading at what level. Even the kids who came into kindergarten with limited English and less than optimal preschool experiences are now reading at at least a 4, according to her. She's actually really proud of her peers, and will say "X used to be in a 2, but now she's on level 6. She's catching up to me!" We were lucky enough to have an outstanding preschool experience, so my daughter started the year reading at a Level 4 and the school has done a good job of moving her forward while catching the other kids up.

I also agree about the lack of math differentiation, but again the expectations seem fairly normal and it seems like the kids in her class are meeting them based on the work she's bringing home. I mean, there's limited differentiation, and the worksheets she is completing have her adding and subtracting up to 20, so I think that's the norm in her classroom.

And yet, everyone is bombing the tests, so guess they aren't that age appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And yet, everyone is bombing the tests, so guess they aren't that age appropriate.

Who is "everyone" and what test are they "bombing"? I would like specific answers to these questions, please. The links above don't provide them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And yet, everyone is bombing the tests, so guess they aren't that age appropriate.

Who is "everyone" and what test are they "bombing"? I would like specific answers to these questions, please. The links above don't provide them.

I was just going to ask this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our education system sounds like our medical system, constantly re-defining what qualifies as xyz. Oncologists argue what can qualify as cancer.

Our schools are very messed up, even the best of them. I'd be devastated if there was a sex abuser at my kid's school. Why aren't parents outraged?

If you want to talk about sex abusers in schools, please start your own thread.

You're right. Just so frustrated with the overall appalling lack of concern for the children. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

13:11 here, and I really don't understand what tests the kids are bombing. We have heard from a school administrator that kindergartners are not being tested. This tracks with my experience as a parent. There are standards, but not tests, not at this age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: And yet, everyone is bombing the tests, so guess they aren't that age appropriate.

Can you please show me where *every* K is bombing "the tests" - and what is this so-called tests? Or are you just talking out of your ass.

My 4th grade DC took PARCC, and DC did not bomb the PARCC test. DC thought it was easy. So, no, not everyone is bombing the "tests". I understand not every student thinks the PARCC tests are easy, but no, not *everyone* is bombing the tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: And yet, everyone is bombing the tests, so guess they aren't that age appropriate.

Can you please show me where *every* K is bombing "the tests" - and what is this so-called tests? Or are you just talking out of your ass.

My 4th grade DC took PARCC, and DC did not bomb the PARCC test. DC thought it was easy. So, no, not everyone is bombing the "tests". I understand not every student thinks the PARCC tests are easy, but no, not *everyone* is bombing the tests.

You can read the links op provided us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: And yet, everyone is bombing the tests, so guess they aren't that age appropriate.

Can you please show me where *every* K is bombing "the tests" - and what is this so-called tests? Or are you just talking out of your ass.

My 4th grade DC took PARCC, and DC did not bomb the PARCC test. DC thought it was easy. So, no, not everyone is bombing the "tests". I understand not every student thinks the PARCC tests are easy, but no, not *everyone* is bombing the tests.

You can read the links op provided us.

I read the links. The links don't answer the questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: And yet, everyone is bombing the tests, so guess they aren't that age appropriate.

Can you please show me where *every* K is bombing "the tests" - and what is this so-called tests? Or are you just talking out of your ass.

My 4th grade DC took PARCC, and DC did not bomb the PARCC test. DC thought it was easy. So, no, not everyone is bombing the "tests". I understand not every student thinks the PARCC tests are easy, but no, not *everyone* is bombing the tests.

You can read the links op provided us.

I read the links. The links don't answer the questions.

Yeah, I didn't see anything about a bunch of students bombing tests, either. Can we talk about the downsides of Common Core without making shit up?

[Anonymous]

Can we talk about the downsides of Common Core without making shit up?

clearly the students discussed are not ready for CC standards in K. That is a downside.