What should I serve at my barbecue Sunday?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I was invited to this "barbecue" and arrived to be served these options, I would be somewhat bummed and feeling misled.

Then host your own damn BBQ and quit bitching about free food other people took time to buy and cook.

I'm hosting a cookout with burgers, chicken, etc. because I don't have time to cook barbecue. My guests all know the difference (even the ones who grew up in regions with confused definitions) ... they're educated like that.

Wow I didn't realize you had to be "educated" to glean what barbecue means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I was invited to this "barbecue" and arrived to be served these options, I would be somewhat bummed and feeling misled.

Then host your own damn BBQ and quit bitching about free food other people took time to buy and cook.

I'm hosting a cookout with burgers, chicken, etc. because I don't have time to cook barbecue. My guests all know the difference (even the ones who grew up in regions with confused definitions) ... they're educated like that.

Are you serious? I grew up in the north and a bbq was anything and everything that was cooked on a grill and outside. Doesn't really matter what was served. I then moved to NC where bbq meant slow cooked pig and/or close cooked pulled chicken. Then I moved here and I still refer to any kind of grill party as a bbq. I have only known that strict definition of slow cooked meat in the south. Get a grip. Some terms mean different things to different people. It has nothing to do with being "educated".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I was invited to this "barbecue" and arrived to be served these options, I would be somewhat bummed and feeling misled.

Then host your own damn BBQ and quit bitching about free food other people took time to buy and cook.

I'm hosting a cookout with burgers, chicken, etc. because I don't have time to cook barbecue. My guests all know the difference (even the ones who grew up in regions with confused definitions) ... they're educated like that.

Are you serious? I grew up in the north and a bbq was anything and everything that was cooked on a grill and outside. Doesn't really matter what was served. I then moved to NC where bbq meant slow cooked pig and/or close cooked pulled chicken. Then I moved here and I still refer to any kind of grill party as a bbq. I have only known that strict definition of slow cooked meat in the south. Get a grip. Some terms mean different things to different people. It has nothing to do with being "educated".

I think that's PPs point ... however condescending s/he's being ... that calling anything on a grill 'barbecue' or grilling 'barbecuing' is technically incorrect and different terms may have different meanings, but some of those meanings are wrong. It's a pet peeve of some southerners, partly because it's reflective of broader attitudes that northerners can use terms incorrectly and it doesn't matter but southerners get knocked for being ignorant when they use colloquial jargon (or just poor grammar).

[Anonymous]

I understood PP's point. But its not technically incorrect. Words mean what people understand them to mean, so PP is literally wrong. I also don't think the wikipedia page she cited to even supports her point. By PP's logic, if there is anyone on DCUM from Haiti on this board, that person should be yelling at all of us for using the term wrong, since we're not using it to refer to a goat buried in the ground and covered with leaves.

I'm also from the south and I get that northerners often adopt the same wrong argument as PPs (if you don't think y'all is a word, you are the idiot; not the people who say y'all). But I don't get the idea of fighting wrongheaded pretentiousness with wrongheaded pretentiousness.

[Anonymous]

Ha - I did not expect a semantics argument when I clicked on this thread! Just wanted to add my two cents - which is that in the Philly-NJ area where I grew up, people called the grill a barbecue (let's put some burgers on the barbecue), so I would argue that anytime one is cooking on the barbecue grill, it is a barbecue!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean your cook-out? At a barbecue, one serves barbecue (ie, slow cooked, smoked meat). If you're looking for a good non-burger cookout item, I suggest nice grilled sausages served with saltines and cheddar slices, shrimp and chicken kabobs (peppers, red onions, tomatoes, meat), and soy and teriyaki marinated beef skewers (like satay).

Were you trying to start a north-versus-south flame war, or are you sincerely unaware that the overwhelming majority of the United States uses "barbecue" in the same way as OP?

I'm aware, just trying to correct the majority who use the term 'barbecue' incorrectly ... in an etymological sense.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue

You can't "correct the majority" about the use of a term because the majority is correct by definition about usage, regardless of a word's etymology.


I cannot freaking believe that even a question about recipe ideas has to turn into a snarky, one-upmanship, know-it-all debate. You people are unbelievable. It's really kind of funny. It seems that every dcum thread longer than 2 pages just devolves into a debate about something trivial. Must be all the DC lawyers and lobbyists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_description

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you mean your cook-out? At a barbecue, one serves barbecue (ie, slow cooked, smoked meat). If you're looking for a good non-burger cookout item, I suggest nice grilled sausages served with saltines and cheddar slices, shrimp and chicken kabobs (peppers, red onions, tomatoes, meat), and soy and teriyaki marinated beef skewers (like satay).

Were you trying to start a north-versus-south flame war, or are you sincerely unaware that the overwhelming majority of the United States uses "barbecue" in the same way as OP?

I'm aware, just trying to correct the majority who use the term 'barbecue' incorrectly ... in an etymological sense.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue

You can't "correct the majority" about the use of a term because the majority is correct by definition about usage, regardless of a word's etymology.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_description

I cannot freaking believe that even a question about recipe ideas has to turn into a snarky, one-upmanship, know-it-all debate. You people are unbelievable. It's really kind of funny. It seems that every dcum thread longer than 2 pages just devolves into a debate about something trivial. Must be all the DC lawyers and lobbyists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you mean your cook-out? At a barbecue, one serves barbecue (ie, slow cooked, smoked meat). If you're looking for a good non-burger cookout item, I suggest nice grilled sausages served with saltines and cheddar slices, shrimp and chicken kabobs (peppers, red onions, tomatoes, meat), and soy and teriyaki marinated beef skewers (like satay).

Were you trying to start a north-versus-south flame war, or are you sincerely unaware that the overwhelming majority of the United States uses "barbecue" in the same way as OP?

I'm aware, just trying to correct the majority who use the term 'barbecue' incorrectly ... in an etymological sense.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue

You can't "correct the majority" about the use of a term because the majority is correct by definition about usage, regardless of a word's etymology.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_description

I cannot freaking believe that even a question about recipe ideas has to turn into a snarky, one-upmanship, know-it-all debate. You people are unbelievable. It's really kind of funny. It seems that every dcum thread longer than 2 pages just devolves into a debate about something trivial. Must be all the DC lawyers and lobbyists.

I agree that there is no need to get nasty about it but, for me, the question is a bit like "What should I serve at my brunch?" when the meal is being served at 7 pm on a Friday and includes no breakfast items. Most people would feel compelled to say, "What you are having is not a brunch but a dinner party."

[Anonymous]

The key point there is "for me." If the majority of people in the U.S. had brunch at 7:00 PM and served dinner items, then you would still be an oddball if you corrected them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you mean your cook-out? At a barbecue, one serves barbecue (ie, slow cooked, smoked meat). If you're looking for a good non-burger cookout item, I suggest nice grilled sausages served with saltines and cheddar slices, shrimp and chicken kabobs (peppers, red onions, tomatoes, meat), and soy and teriyaki marinated beef skewers (like satay).

Were you trying to start a north-versus-south flame war, or are you sincerely unaware that the overwhelming majority of the United States uses "barbecue" in the same way as OP?

I'm aware, just trying to correct the majority who use the term 'barbecue' incorrectly ... in an etymological sense.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue

You can't "correct the majority" about the use of a term because the majority is correct by definition about usage, regardless of a word's etymology.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_description

I cannot freaking believe that even a question about recipe ideas has to turn into a snarky, one-upmanship, know-it-all debate. You people are unbelievable. It's really kind of funny. It seems that every dcum thread longer than 2 pages just devolves into a debate about something trivial. Must be all the DC lawyers and lobbyists.

We should get back to this thread's strong foundations: Someone suggesting guacamole, and then another commenter implying it is unamerican to serve it on Memorial Day. That's the real DCUM spirit!

[Anonymous]

Made the creamed corn this weekend and it turned out great. Thanks PP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Homemade creamed corn. Made this tonight for a BBQ and one guy liked it so much I saw him piling it on a hotdog just to eat more.

6-8 ears fresh corn (maybe more depending on how many people you have). Scrape it down to get all the kernels and corn milk out. Throw it in the crockpot.

Slice a stick of butter into pats and throw that in. Do the same with a block of Philadelphia cream cheese. Full fat, no store brands, you need the good stuff that melts smoothly.

2-3 tbsp sugar. 1-2 tsp salt, 1/2 tsp pepper.

2/3-3/4 cup milk. Add some heavy cream for good measure.

Stir it all up and cook it on high in your crockpot for 3 hours. Or low for longer. Keep it on warm while everyone's serving.

Oh, yeah!! Thanks for posting!!