Not sure how long you've been observing but in the 5+ years I've been reading DCUM, I can't say I've seen much of this white loathing you're talking about. The irony in this conversation is that Shepherd Elementary is pretty exemplary of the opposite. It has scores way above average, higher SES population, a relatively low percentage of FARMS, ideal class sizes, it offers the rare inter baccalaureate programming, and it has a newly renovated building on a beautiful campus. These are all factors that most DCUMers clamor for, yet Shepherd is hardly mentioned on anyone's most-desired list. You could say that it's because the school's location makes it difficult, but any observer of DCUM could be forgiven for thinking that it's because the school is mostly black. If you're having a hard time believing that a higher number of black kids brings down the value of a school in DCPS discussions, search the forum for Hearst, Hardy, Ludlow-Taylor, Ellington, or the terms OOB and flip. More than any "white loathing", you'll see a sentiment of it would be great if there weren't so many black kids. And if there is the occasional I don't want my kid at JKLM, it might be because of the way people express their true feelings about "diversity" in these threads. |
| 11:09: you sound silly. You showed your ignorance in your original post on this topic, so why bring it up again? |
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Shepherd IB PK poster here. I just want to say that the JKLMM schools sound great on many levels. Students obviously get to go to school with almost universally well-prepared peers, there seems to be a vast array of extracurriculars not available EOTP (unless in charters), and the parent community is a great resource in terms of time and financial support. I know of families in Shepherd Park who are trying to lottery into JKLM schools. And you know what? Their calculus was different from ours, but they're trying to do the best for their kids just like we are.
For us, I think Shepherd was the right decision. For any families who put socioeconomic diversity fairly high on the list of priorities, Shepherd is a good choice. Of course, it's not perfect (e.g., partial kitchen with no stove or oven that a coalition of families are pushing to get renovated, no off-street parking, almost 20% "at-risk" students particularly in the upper grades, etc.), but I have yet to hear of that unicorn school that is truly perfect on every level. Finally--and I'm probably screaming in the wind here--let's try to be civil. Unless things change re: boundaries (as some posters keep insisting re: Shepherd), many of our kids will be in school together for middle and/or high school. |
P.S. Although I tried to be transparent and mention some of Shepherd's challenges, there are many positives as well that have been already mentioned by other posters. Because it's a small school with a little over 300 students, although this is our first year I already feel like I know many of the families there, even in other grades. There's a warm, friendly and welcoming atmosphere. The IB curriculum emphasizes critical thinking skills and an international perspective. The only other IB DCPS elementary schools are Cooke and Thomson; for charters there is YY, and for private, there is WIS. There is an engaged parent community--just now I ran out to run errands and passed the school, where Shepherd parents and neighbors of all racial backgrounds have gathered to clean up and beautify the grounds. The test scores are decent and rising, and are the best of any elementary school serving predominantly students of color in DC. If you break out by subgroup, AA students at Shepherd actually do better than those at JKLMM. So there are a bunch of positives that go without saying. |
This is the kind of post that's valuable - honest, balanced, first-hand impressions. I, too, wish for civility but the honesty that comes with anonymity also has its value. I'm mid-forties and have lived in DC 20 plus years but the racial divide that's exposed in these forums has made me feel truly naive. The ugliness is sometimes breathtaking, but I'm glad I know about it. |
NW schools are more diverse than Shepherd in absolutely every meaningful way. Having said that, it is not bad to see some degree of self-delusion and rationalization it is human nature. |
Of course, that depends on what's meaningful to you. |
Shepherd is also in NW. But more importantly, how does one objectively determine what is "meaningful" diversity and what isn't? |
Reread. The question wasn't "Are there insufferable smug people in these zip codes who attend barbecues?" Of course there are. [The epicenter of insufferable is actually further south though, in "I tell myself I did everything in DC first!"-land. Bloomingdale and Logan Circle, CH. I ride a bike! I eat local! I live in a rowhouse!] The above comment was in response to the BBQ-goers earlier statement that upper NW only contains white people. That is patently way untrue, as any cursory glance at 2010 census data will show. |
you can find an honest answer to your question on DCUM, where I read posts from AA parents questioning whether to send their AA child to a predominantly white school (even Janney, there were posts recently, with some posters saying that AA kids IB for Janney go OOB to Eaton precisely because they do not want to be one of the few AA kids in a school predominantly white). so yes, sounds like this kind of concern (being the only XYZ child in a class where all other kids are another "race") is shared by people of various backgrounds, and is not necessarily a sign that OP is racist (unless you conclude that an AA family who does not send child to Janney is also racist) |
+1. As a matter of fact, NW, even Ward 3, if much more representative of our country's population at large than any other part of the city. We don't live in Nigeria, you know? |
Don't think so. Where do the Hispanics live in Ward 3? |
Give me a freaking break. Did you not see the Living Social map of DC a few years back? Every neighborhood had a true to form name. Get over yourself. |
I live in DC for a reason. I don't want to live in the rest of the country. I know what it looks like and I'm not interested. |
WE certainly don't live in Anacostia, so please dont invoke us to justify your very strange white-black "diversity" issues. |