Great Schools -- no longer useful

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Anonymous wrote:I found it very useful. Our hs is a 6, but that's just a reflection of the mixture of kids at this school. Kids like mine pass their tests at a higher rate than other kids at the school. That data helps me assess whether I want to send my kids there. If kids from non-disadvantaged backgrounds are doing well, then I'm ok with it even if the overall score is not as high. The schools with high overall scores usually don't have many disadvantaged kids in their data pool...so of course the overall score is going to be higher than schools that have a mix of kids. If our "6" hs didn't have the disadvantaged kids, it'd be an 8 too.

The only people who care about the score are the those that are worried about education for their children, but not too worried, so they just want to look for one data point on the internet and then sit around being smug.

No, we just don't want to pay an inflated price for housing just so our kids are in a lily white school (or school where 10 percent asians counts as the "diversity"). We don't like to follow the crowds for a crappy house and an unnecessarily high mortgage.

LOL, yeah right it's can't pay.

No, -- we just don't want smug neighbors like you -- talk about making the case for staying away from certain areas!

Right, completely believable

New poster here. Go shove your smug head up your ass. Not everyone who can afford a giant house in a lily white neighborhood wants to do that. Truly. Some people - myself and many of my neighbors - choose to live in a more diverse area. Not that housing is necessarily even cheaper than your bland suburb, but there are more options so you get some diversity. And WE LIKE IT. I know that must blow your mind.

Don't you have some Kumon Mom's Club meeting to attend?

Written like a parent without children in the schools yet. Diversity IS a nice idea, yes.

Sorry, 2 kids in a very diverse elementary school. Diverse and yet it's still one of the best public schools around.

Define "very diverse." Be sure to use definitions beyond skin color.

Children from many different countries, many languages, many different skin colors. Families live in a mix of housing - apts/condos/THs. Also, a mix of professions.

55% white
12% AA
20% asian
7% hispanic
7% mixed

19% FARM

Great Schools = 10

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I found it very useful. Our hs is a 6, but that's just a reflection of the mixture of kids at this school. Kids like mine pass their tests at a higher rate than other kids at the school. That data helps me assess whether I want to send my kids there. If kids from non-disadvantaged backgrounds are doing well, then I'm ok with it even if the overall score is not as high. The schools with high overall scores usually don't have many disadvantaged kids in their data pool...so of course the overall score is going to be higher than schools that have a mix of kids. If our "6" hs didn't have the disadvantaged kids, it'd be an 8 too.

The only people who care about the score are the those that are worried about education for their children, but not too worried, so they just want to look for one data point on the internet and then sit around being smug.

No, we just don't want to pay an inflated price for housing just so our kids are in a lily white school (or school where 10 percent asians counts as the "diversity"). We don't like to follow the crowds for a crappy house and an unnecessarily high mortgage.

LOL, yeah right it's can't pay.

No, -- we just don't want smug neighbors like you -- talk about making the case for staying away from certain areas!

Right, completely believable

New poster here. Go shove your smug head up your ass. Not everyone who can afford a giant house in a lily white neighborhood wants to do that. Truly. Some people - myself and many of my neighbors - choose to live in a more diverse area. Not that housing is necessarily even cheaper than your bland suburb, but there are more options so you get some diversity. And WE LIKE IT. I know that must blow your mind.

Don't you have some Kumon Mom's Club meeting to attend?

The amount of hate towards on DCUM towards white people is pretty ridiculous. Why is it automatically assumed that a white neighborhood is bad?

Huh? Where do you get the hate for white people? I said we wanted diverse - which means we want to throw some white people in the mix too. Just not lily white (99.9999% white).

Mostly I'm annoyed at PP who thinks that anyone who can afford to lily white automatically prefers that environment. And then continued to mock the other PP.

I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

RIIIIGHT! Like Langley and McLean are 20-40% "minority"???? you mean the high SES Asians "count" as acceptable "minorities" in your area. (you just don't want minorities like hispanics or black folks). I just laugh at people like you. Yeah-- those 6% of black and hispanic kids at Langley (that's a combined percentage) really add "diversity"! Right.

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Real sad for your shitty numbers maybe you can work hard and buy a house in the better parts

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Don't worry we still need service people

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Anonymous wrote:Real sad for your shitty numbers maybe you can work hard and buy a house in the better parts

Oh OK, you're just a troll. Why did I waste the energy...

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Anonymous wrote:Real sad for your shitty numbers maybe you can work hard and buy a house in the better parts

Oh OK, you're just a troll. Why did I waste the energy...

To the truly stupid the truth appears to be trolling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the past (before the revamp), you could click directly on the big circle rating and you could get ratings for subgroups broken out by race, gender, economically disadvantage, english learners, etc., etc. So, even if the school as a whole was a 5, you might see that certain groups relevant to your own family were much higher or much lower. No longer available for VA. Other than anecdotal reviews, there is essentially no useful info. on the site.

Probably better because the whole broken down by race thing didn't make sense. The score is the score. Glad to know that the DCUM bad chool boosters don't get to use that excuse anymore.

Agreed. Any school ranked lower than a 9 is simply a bad school. Enough said.

You really think there is a significant difference between the curriculum and teachers at 6 school than there is at a 9 school? No, it's the students. The students and their familial backgrounds are what determine a school's test scores, not the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the past (before the revamp), you could click directly on the big circle rating and you could get ratings for subgroups broken out by race, gender, economically disadvantage, english learners, etc., etc. So, even if the school as a whole was a 5, you might see that certain groups relevant to your own family were much higher or much lower. No longer available for VA. Other than anecdotal reviews, there is essentially no useful info. on the site.

Probably better because the whole broken down by race thing didn't make sense. The score is the score. Glad to know that the DCUM bad chool boosters don't get to use that excuse anymore.

Agreed. Any school ranked lower than a 9 is simply a bad school. Enough said.

You really think there is a significant difference between the curriculum and teachers at 6 school than there is at a 9 school? No, it's the students. The students and their familial backgrounds are what determine a school's test scores, not the school.

Keep telling yourself that all you want. I am glad I was able to afford a house in a more desirable neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the past (before the revamp), you could click directly on the big circle rating and you could get ratings for subgroups broken out by race, gender, economically disadvantage, english learners, etc., etc. So, even if the school as a whole was a 5, you might see that certain groups relevant to your own family were much higher or much lower. No longer available for VA. Other than anecdotal reviews, there is essentially no useful info. on the site.

Probably better because the whole broken down by race thing didn't make sense. The score is the score. Glad to know that the DCUM bad chool boosters don't get to use that excuse anymore.

Agreed. Any school ranked lower than a 9 is simply a bad school. Enough said.

You really think there is a significant difference between the curriculum and teachers at 6 school than there is at a 9 school? No, it's the students. The students and their familial backgrounds are what determine a school's test scores, not the school.

Keep telling yourself that all you want. I am glad I was able to afford a house in a more desirable neighborhood.

I don't have to tell myself that; I omow it's true. My children have been in both a 6 school and a 9 school and that is the ONLY difference. The only difference. You pay hundreds of thousands of dollars more to live in a more 'desirable' neighborhood so you can avoid minorities and poor people, I'll live around people with more varied walks of life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the past (before the revamp), you could click directly on the big circle rating and you could get ratings for subgroups broken out by race, gender, economically disadvantage, english learners, etc., etc. So, even if the school as a whole was a 5, you might see that certain groups relevant to your own family were much higher or much lower. No longer available for VA. Other than anecdotal reviews, there is essentially no useful info. on the site.

Probably better because the whole broken down by race thing didn't make sense. The score is the score. Glad to know that the DCUM bad chool boosters don't get to use that excuse anymore.

Agreed. Any school ranked lower than a 9 is simply a bad school. Enough said.

You really think there is a significant difference between the curriculum and teachers at 6 school than there is at a 9 school? No, it's the students. The students and their familial backgrounds are what determine a school's test scores, not the school.

Keep telling yourself that all you want. I am glad I was able to afford a house in a more desirable neighborhood.

I don't have to tell myself that; I omow it's true. My children have been in both a 6 school and a 9 school and that is the ONLY difference. The only difference. You pay hundreds of thousands of dollars more to live in a more 'desirable' neighborhood so you can avoid minorities and poor people, I'll live around people with more varied walks of life.

And so what? Statistically, your child's peers DO have an effect on your child's performance. A low income child going to a majority upper income school will do better academically than a low income child going to a low income school. Likewise, an upper income child going to a majority upper income school will do better academically than an upper income child going to a low income school. So whether you are low income or high income, it makes sense to try to get your kid around the highest income peers you can find.

For what it's worth, my kids school is very ethnically diverse (majority Hispanic, about 10% black or other, the remainder split between white and Asian) but is very economically homogenous. The great schools rating is a 9.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I found it very useful. Our hs is a 6, but that's just a reflection of the mixture of kids at this school. Kids like mine pass their tests at a higher rate than other kids at the school. That data helps me assess whether I want to send my kids there. If kids from non-disadvantaged backgrounds are doing well, then I'm ok with it even if the overall score is not as high. The schools with high overall scores usually don't have many disadvantaged kids in their data pool...so of course the overall score is going to be higher than schools that have a mix of kids. If our "6" hs didn't have the disadvantaged kids, it'd be an 8 too.

The only people who care about the score are the those that are worried about education for their children, but not too worried, so they just want to look for one data point on the internet and then sit around being smug.

No, we just don't want to pay an inflated price for housing just so our kids are in a lily white school (or school where 10 percent asians counts as the "diversity"). We don't like to follow the crowds for a crappy house and an unnecessarily high mortgage.

LOL, yeah right it's can't pay.

No, -- we just don't want smug neighbors like you -- talk about making the case for staying away from certain areas!

Right, completely believable

New poster here. Go shove your smug head up your ass. Not everyone who can afford a giant house in a lily white neighborhood wants to do that. Truly. Some people - myself and many of my neighbors - choose to live in a more diverse area. Not that housing is necessarily even cheaper than your bland suburb, but there are more options so you get some diversity. And WE LIKE IT. I know that must blow your mind.

Don't you have some Kumon Mom's Club meeting to attend?

Written like a parent without children in the schools yet. Diversity IS a nice idea, yes.

Sorry, 2 kids in a very diverse elementary school. Diverse and yet it's still one of the best public schools around.

Define "very diverse." Be sure to use definitions beyond skin color.

Children from many different countries, many languages, many different skin colors. Families live in a mix of housing - apts/condos/THs. Also, a mix of professions.

55% white
12% AA
20% asian
7% hispanic
7% mixed

19% FARM

Great Schools = 10

What school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the past (before the revamp), you could click directly on the big circle rating and you could get ratings for subgroups broken out by race, gender, economically disadvantage, english learners, etc., etc. So, even if the school as a whole was a 5, you might see that certain groups relevant to your own family were much higher or much lower. No longer available for VA. Other than anecdotal reviews, there is essentially no useful info. on the site.

Probably better because the whole broken down by race thing didn't make sense. The score is the score. Glad to know that the DCUM bad chool boosters don't get to use that excuse anymore.

Agreed. Any school ranked lower than a 9 is simply a bad school. Enough said.

You really think there is a significant difference between the curriculum and teachers at 6 school than there is at a 9 school? No, it's the students. The students and their familial backgrounds are what determine a school's test scores, not the school.

Keep telling yourself that all you want. I am glad I was able to afford a house in a more desirable neighborhood.

I don't have to tell myself that; I omow it's true. My children have been in both a 6 school and a 9 school and that is the ONLY difference. The only difference. You pay hundreds of thousands of dollars more to live in a more 'desirable' neighborhood so you can avoid minorities and poor people, I'll live around people with more varied walks of life.

don't feed the troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the past (before the revamp), you could click directly on the big circle rating and you could get ratings for subgroups broken out by race, gender, economically disadvantage, english learners, etc., etc. So, even if the school as a whole was a 5, you might see that certain groups relevant to your own family were much higher or much lower. No longer available for VA. Other than anecdotal reviews, there is essentially no useful info. on the site.

Probably better because the whole broken down by race thing didn't make sense. The score is the score. Glad to know that the DCUM bad chool boosters don't get to use that excuse anymore.

Agreed. Any school ranked lower than a 9 is simply a bad school. Enough said.

You really think there is a significant difference between the curriculum and teachers at 6 school than there is at a 9 school? No, it's the students. The students and their familial backgrounds are what determine a school's test scores, not the school.

Keep telling yourself that all you want. I am glad I was able to afford a house in a more desirable neighborhood.

I don't have to tell myself that; I omow it's true. My children have been in both a 6 school and a 9 school and that is the ONLY difference. The only difference. You pay hundreds of thousands of dollars more to live in a more 'desirable' neighborhood so you can avoid minorities and poor people, I'll live around people with more varied walks of life.

And so what? Statistically, your child's peers DO have an effect on your child's performance. A low income child going to a majority upper income school will do better academically than a low income child going to a low income school. Likewise, an upper income child going to a majority upper income school will do better academically than an upper income child going to a low income school. So whether you are low income or high income, it makes sense to try to get your kid around the highest income peers you can find.

For what it's worth, my kids school is very ethnically diverse (majority Hispanic, about 10% black or other, the remainder split between white and Asian) but is very economically homogenous. The great schools rating is a 9.

Huh. The non farms kids actually score HIGHER at our 6 school than do the non-FARMS kids at our old ES, a 9 on GS So that's not really relevant to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I found it very useful. Our hs is a 6, but that's just a reflection of the mixture of kids at this school. Kids like mine pass their tests at a higher rate than other kids at the school. That data helps me assess whether I want to send my kids there. If kids from non-disadvantaged backgrounds are doing well, then I'm ok with it even if the overall score is not as high. The schools with high overall scores usually don't have many disadvantaged kids in their data pool...so of course the overall score is going to be higher than schools that have a mix of kids. If our "6" hs didn't have the disadvantaged kids, it'd be an 8 too.

The only people who care about the score are the those that are worried about education for their children, but not too worried, so they just want to look for one data point on the internet and then sit around being smug.

No, we just don't want to pay an inflated price for housing just so our kids are in a lily white school (or school where 10 percent asians counts as the "diversity"). We don't like to follow the crowds for a crappy house and an unnecessarily high mortgage.

LOL, yeah right it's can't pay.

No, -- we just don't want smug neighbors like you -- talk about making the case for staying away from certain areas!

Right, completely believable

New poster here. Go shove your smug head up your ass. Not everyone who can afford a giant house in a lily white neighborhood wants to do that. Truly. Some people - myself and many of my neighbors - choose to live in a more diverse area. Not that housing is necessarily even cheaper than your bland suburb, but there are more options so you get some diversity. And WE LIKE IT. I know that must blow your mind.

Don't you have some Kumon Mom's Club meeting to attend?

Written like a parent without children in the schools yet. Diversity IS a nice idea, yes.

Sorry, 2 kids in a very diverse elementary school. Diverse and yet it's still one of the best public schools around.

Define "very diverse." Be sure to use definitions beyond skin color.

Children from many different countries, many languages, many different skin colors. Families live in a mix of housing - apts/condos/THs. Also, a mix of professions.

55% white
12% AA
20% asian
7% hispanic
7% mixed

19% FARM

Great Schools = 10

What school?

Sounds close to ASF in Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the past (before the revamp), you could click directly on the big circle rating and you could get ratings for subgroups broken out by race, gender, economically disadvantage, english learners, etc., etc. So, even if the school as a whole was a 5, you might see that certain groups relevant to your own family were much higher or much lower. No longer available for VA. Other than anecdotal reviews, there is essentially no useful info. on the site.

Probably better because the whole broken down by race thing didn't make sense. The score is the score. Glad to know that the DCUM bad chool boosters don't get to use that excuse anymore.

Agreed. Any school ranked lower than a 9 is simply a bad school. Enough said.

You really think there is a significant difference between the curriculum and teachers at 6 school than there is at a 9 school? No, it's the students. The students and their familial backgrounds are what determine a school's test scores, not the school.

Keep telling yourself that all you want. I am glad I was able to afford a house in a more desirable neighborhood.

You, or your husband?