Great Schools -- no longer useful

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Anonymous wrote:I found it very useful. Our hs is a 6, but that's just a reflection of the mixture of kids at this school. Kids like mine pass their tests at a higher rate than other kids at the school. That data helps me assess whether I want to send my kids there. If kids from non-disadvantaged backgrounds are doing well, then I'm ok with it even if the overall score is not as high. The schools with high overall scores usually don't have many disadvantaged kids in their data pool...so of course the overall score is going to be higher than schools that have a mix of kids. If our "6" hs didn't have the disadvantaged kids, it'd be an 8 too.

The only people who care about the score are the those that are worried about education for their children, but not too worried, so they just want to look for one data point on the internet and then sit around being smug.

No, we just don't want to pay an inflated price for housing just so our kids are in a lily white school (or school where 10 percent asians counts as the "diversity"). We don't like to follow the crowds for a crappy house and an unnecessarily high mortgage.

LOL, yeah right it's can't pay.

No, -- we just don't want smug neighbors like you -- talk about making the case for staying away from certain areas!

Right, completely believable

New poster here. Go shove your smug head up your ass. Not everyone who can afford a giant house in a lily white neighborhood wants to do that. Truly. Some people - myself and many of my neighbors - choose to live in a more diverse area. Not that housing is necessarily even cheaper than your bland suburb, but there are more options so you get some diversity. And WE LIKE IT. I know that must blow your mind.

Don't you have some Kumon Mom's Club meeting to attend?

Written like a parent without children in the schools yet. Diversity IS a nice idea, yes.

Sorry, 2 kids in a very diverse elementary school. Diverse and yet it's still one of the best public schools around.

Define "very diverse." Be sure to use definitions beyond skin color.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

Don't be stupid, even the whitest school langley and madison still have 10-15% Hispanic or black. No school is 30% Asian.

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Can we distill this?

Kids from higher income homes tend to get higher scores on standardized tests, as do white AND asian kids. Lower income kids and black and hispanic kids tend to get lower scores. A ranking based on test scores, that does not adjust for race or income, will tend to show affluent, white/asian schools as "better" whether they are doing a better job of educating kids or not. A schooll that has above average scores by blacks and hispanics, and above average scores by whites and asians, but lower overall average scores becausei it has more blacks and hispanics, will do well in one measure but poorly in another. As a wise white man once said "Its arithmetic"

Naturally someone trying to talk up the value of a house in a high SES white/Asian area (not necessarily lily white) has every incentive to suggest the unadjusted ratings are the best indicators.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

Don't be stupid, even the whitest school langley and madison still have 10-15% Hispanic or black. No school is 30% Asian.

True, reality never reaches the ideal.

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But note, Madison and Langley are high schools. I think there are elementary schools with fewer blacks and hispanics than that. Is GreatSchools only used to rank high schools?

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We left our "diverse" school when the black kids started demonstrating how to be arrested (based on what they'd seen in their housing projects), cursed at the teacher, stole from my child's backpack, and called dd one of his "bitches." First grade, yo.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

What are you blathering about? NoVa is far more diverse than DC and most parts of the country.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

What are you blathering about? NoVa is far more diverse than DC and most parts of the country.

Seriously. DC's majority black -- it's not very diverse at all.

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Did you know that Middle Eastern and Arabs get counted as white!!! Guess what, it's not lilly white you morons.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

What are you blathering about? NoVa is far more diverse than DC and most parts of the country.

Seriously. DC's majority black -- it's not very diverse at all.

DC isn't majority black any longer, but DCPS tends to have schools that are either almost entirely white (upper NW) or entirely black (other parts of the city). There are very few schools in DCPS that have the diversity of a typical NoVa school (perhaps a few in Capitol Hill or NW EOTP, but that's it).

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

What are you blathering about? NoVa is far more diverse than DC and most parts of the country.

Nonetheless, many people in NoVa, particularly in North Arlington and the more affluent parts of North Fairfax and Loudoun, want to avoid low income people, and to avoid blacks (and to a lesser extent hispanics) but like to trout out the Asian percentage in their school or neighborhood to show its diverse. Claiming its more diverse than DC is a favorite meme as well. Note, such folks not only avoid DC schools, but also the schools in South Arlington, City of Alexandria, and the "bad" schools in Fairfax.

BTW, this is the part where you are supposed to list all the different national originns in your kid's school or your neighborhood.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

What are you blathering about? NoVa is far more diverse than DC and most parts of the country.

Seriously. DC's majority black -- it's not very diverse at all.

DC isn't majority black any longer, but DCPS tends to have schools that are either almost entirely white (upper NW) or entirely black (other parts of the city). There are very few schools in DCPS that have the diversity of a typical NoVa school (perhaps a few in Capitol Hill or NW EOTP, but that's it).

I don't know what you mean by typical. Recall this discussion is about great schools rankings. The NoVa schools with rankings of 9 or 10 are far from typical of NoVa schools in general.

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I am not sure there are any expensive lilly white 99.999% white neighborhoods, maybe you are thinking about southern Virginia where there is less diversity? Every neighborhood in the DC area with a high great school rating tend to be at least 20-40% minority. Thanks for the uneducated stereotype.

In NoVa the idea is to live in a place that is 70% white, 30% asian, and 100% high SES, and to point to the asian percentage to show you are not a bigot, while hating and fearing blacks, most hispanics, and poor people of any color.

What are you blathering about? NoVa is far more diverse than DC and most parts of the country.

Nonetheless, many people in NoVa, particularly in North Arlington and the more affluent parts of North Fairfax and Loudoun, want to avoid low income people, and to avoid blacks (and to a lesser extent hispanics) but like to trout out the Asian percentage in their school or neighborhood to show its diverse. Claiming its more diverse than DC is a favorite meme as well. Note, such folks not only avoid DC schools, but also the schools in South Arlington, City of Alexandria, and the "bad" schools in Fairfax.

BTW, this is the part where you are supposed to list all the different national originns in your kid's school or your neighborhood.

Wrong the blacks tend to avoid the whites and non blacks, black privilege aka reverse racism

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Anonymous wrote:I found it very useful. Our hs is a 6, but that's just a reflection of the mixture of kids at this school. Kids like mine pass their tests at a higher rate than other kids at the school. That data helps me assess whether I want to send my kids there. If kids from non-disadvantaged backgrounds are doing well, then I'm ok with it even if the overall score is not as high. The schools with high overall scores usually don't have many disadvantaged kids in their data pool...so of course the overall score is going to be higher than schools that have a mix of kids. If our "6" hs didn't have the disadvantaged kids, it'd be an 8 too.

The only people who care about the score are the those that are worried about education for their children, but not too worried, so they just want to look for one data point on the internet and then sit around being smug.

No, we just don't want to pay an inflated price for housing just so our kids are in a lily white school (or school where 10 percent asians counts as the "diversity"). We don't like to follow the crowds for a crappy house and an unnecessarily high mortgage.

LOL, yeah right it's can't pay.

No, -- we just don't want smug neighbors like you -- talk about making the case for staying away from certain areas!

Right, completely believable

New poster here. Go shove your smug head up your ass. Not everyone who can afford a giant house in a lily white neighborhood wants to do that. Truly. Some people - myself and many of my neighbors - choose to live in a more diverse area. Not that housing is necessarily even cheaper than your bland suburb, but there are more options so you get some diversity. And WE LIKE IT. I know that must blow your mind.

Don't you have some Kumon Mom's Club meeting to attend?

What makes you think the expensive neighborhoods are all white and in the bland suburbs? A lot of middle eastern and Asians where we are.

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