What is leave abuse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I took leave today to do my Christmas shopping.

That is not abuse of leave.

Sure you can take leave to do your Christmas shopping as long as you take ANNUAL leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:06:39, have you considered moving to a non-managerial position? Because you must seriously suck as a boss. I can only imagine how your staff loathe working for you.

+1

Seriously. It's attitudes like 6:39's that make grown people want to act like children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leave abuse means a suspicious pattern of calling in sick on certain days (usually Monday or Friday) or asking for time off for inconsequential matters. In other words, taking leave you do not need.

This is absurd, asking leave for inconsequential matters? Leave us yours to take for whatever reason you want. And, who would judge whether a request is consequential enough?

Nosy supervisors judge. An old supervisor told me that my then boyfriend, now husband's 30th birthday was not reason enough to take a vacation day. Not sick leave, but a vacation day. This was after my leave was approved, but he got stuck out of the country for visa issues and notified an event organizer that I'd do a speaking engagement for him (without asking me first) that was in the evening on the west coast! I'd already taken the Friday off to prep for the party and the only way I'd make it back to DC on time was if they bought a $600 plane ticket. Not my problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leave abuse means a suspicious pattern of calling in sick on certain days (usually Monday or Friday) or asking for time off for inconsequential matters. In other words, taking leave you do not need.

This is absurd, asking leave for inconsequential matters? Leave us yours to take for whatever reason you want. And, who would judge whether a request is consequential enough?

No, leave is not yours to take whenever you want. Sick leave is for when you are genuinely ill. Annual leave is granted for annual vacations, planned in advance, in accord with when the employer can spare employees without detriment to the business mission. There is no type of leave that you can take at will, in drips and drabs, for your own personal convenience whenever you want. Leave is a privilege, not a right.

Moreover, employees are granted a number of leave hours per year or per pay period. When employees routinely use up all those hours, plus more, they are abusing leave if they do so without any justification such as chronic illness.

I have employees who ask for leave, every single week, for things like:

Preparation for the church picnic
Attend a personal growth seminar
Holiday shopping
Spa appointment
Baking


If all these requests were granted, nothing would get done. That's leave abuse. If you want to take a mental health day once a year, fine. But once a week? Every Friday and Monday? Leave every Wednesday after lunch? Come in late every Tuesday morning?

I'm not talking about FMLA, chronic illness, doctor's appointments, or alternate work schedules. I'm talking about clear patterns of abuse.

You're NUTS! Where do you work so I can stay away from you.

[Anonymous]

Like my coworker who is always sick or "working from home" when the boss is traveling!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leave abuse means a suspicious pattern of calling in sick on certain days (usually Monday or Friday) or asking for time off for inconsequential matters. In other words, taking leave you do not need.

This is absurd, asking leave for inconsequential matters? Leave us yours to take for whatever reason you want. And, who would judge whether a request is consequential enough?

No, leave is not yours to take whenever you want. Sick leave is for when you are genuinely ill. Annual leave is granted for annual vacations, planned in advance, in accord with when the employer can spare employees without detriment to the business mission. There is no type of leave that you can take at will, in drips and drabs, for your own personal convenience whenever you want. Leave is a privilege, not a right.

Moreover, employees are granted a number of leave hours per year or per pay period. When employees routinely use up all those hours, plus more, they are abusing leave if they do so without any justification such as chronic illness.

I have employees who ask for leave, every single week, for things like:

Preparation for the church picnic
Attend a personal growth seminar
Holiday shopping
Spa appointment
Baking


If all these requests were granted, nothing would get done. That's leave abuse. If you want to take a mental health day once a year, fine. But once a week? Every Friday and Monday? Leave every Wednesday after lunch? Come in late every Tuesday morning?

I'm not talking about FMLA, chronic illness, doctor's appointments, or alternate work schedules. I'm talking about clear patterns of abuse.

You're NUTS! Where do you work so I can stay away from you.

Maybe she's confused AL with SL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leave abuse means a suspicious pattern of calling in sick on certain days (usually Monday or Friday) or asking for time off for inconsequential matters. In other words, taking leave you do not need.

This is absurd, asking leave for inconsequential matters? Leave us yours to take for whatever reason you want. And, who would judge whether a request is consequential enough?

No, leave is not yours to take whenever you want. Sick leave is for when you are genuinely ill. Annual leave is granted for annual vacations, planned in advance, in accord with when the employer can spare employees without detriment to the business mission. There is no type of leave that you can take at will, in drips and drabs, for your own personal convenience whenever you want. Leave is a privilege, not a right.

Moreover, employees are granted a number of leave hours per year or per pay period. When employees routinely use up all those hours, plus more, they are abusing leave if they do so without any justification such as chronic illness.

I have employees who ask for leave, every single week, for things like:

Preparation for the church picnic
Attend a personal growth seminar
Holiday shopping
Spa appointment
Baking


If all these requests were granted, nothing would get done. That's leave abuse. If you want to take a mental health day once a year, fine. But once a week? Every Friday and Monday? Leave every Wednesday after lunch? Come in late every Tuesday morning?

I'm not talking about FMLA, chronic illness, doctor's appointments, or alternate work schedules. I'm talking about clear patterns of abuse.

You're NUTS! Where do you work so I can stay away from you.

NP here, yeeeaaahhhh... what do you do so I can make sure to never hire you?