ISO of a SMALL elementary school in FCPS

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Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Vienna sounds ideal to me. And the biggest plus - no AAP!

Don't worry. They'll ruin it. A few years back formerly tiny Westbriar had about 420 students. Now with AAP and an addition they're projected at between 950 to 1000 in two years. NO school is safe in this system. AAP has forever warped sane schooling in this area and if you don't think the fever affects Vienna El. you're kidding yourself.

Latest CIP has Westbriar at 869 students in two years. Is the figure higher on the Dashboard? The projections for Westbriar may assume students from new construction in Tysons. The Vienna ES district doesn't include any Tysons projects. And many students at Westbriar live closer to Wolftrap and Colvin Run, each of which is projected to have extra capacity. Finally, FCPS expects to build another ES in the heart of Tysons at some point.

So I think you're hyperventilating a bit about Westbriar's future and, in any event, it doesn't mean Vienna will get huge any time soon. It's possible FCPS could formally move the small part of Freedom Hill in the Town of Vienna zoned for Madison to Vienna (currently, transfer requests are routinely granted), but that doesn't involve many kids.

Latest CIP is already outdated. These figures came from a meeting about Westbriar's addition and were confirmed by the principal. Yes, at some point, a new Tysons school will be built, but not in near future. Westbriar was a tiny school tucked on a tiny street that people didn't really care about until it became a center. Westbriar would not have gotten the addition if it didn't become a center --new construction in Tysons or no.

And we're talking about more than the doubling of a school population, so forgive me if my reaction seems to be hyperventilating. Completely changes the character of the school and will likely turn it into another AAP-heavy Louise Archer or Haycock disaster.

Assuming this is correct, I still don't think it means Vienna ES will follow suit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Vienna sounds ideal to me. And the biggest plus - no AAP!

Don't worry. They'll ruin it. A few years back formerly tiny Westbriar had about 420 students. Now with AAP and an addition they're projected at between 950 to 1000 in two years. NO school is safe in this system. AAP has forever warped sane schooling in this area and if you don't think the fever affects Vienna El. you're kidding yourself.

Latest CIP has Westbriar at 869 students in two years. Is the figure higher on the Dashboard? The projections for Westbriar may assume students from new construction in Tysons. The Vienna ES district doesn't include any Tysons projects. And many students at Westbriar live closer to Wolftrap and Colvin Run, each of which is projected to have extra capacity. Finally, FCPS expects to build another ES in the heart of Tysons at some point.

So I think you're hyperventilating a bit about Westbriar's future and, in any event, it doesn't mean Vienna will get huge any time soon. It's possible FCPS could formally move the small part of Freedom Hill in the Town of Vienna zoned for Madison to Vienna (currently, transfer requests are routinely granted), but that doesn't involve many kids.

Latest CIP is already outdated. These figures came from a meeting about Westbriar's addition and were confirmed by the principal. Yes, at some point, a new Tysons school will be built, but not in near future. Westbriar was a tiny school tucked on a tiny street that people didn't really care about until it became a center. Westbriar would not have gotten the addition if it didn't become a center --new construction in Tysons or no.

And we're talking about more than the doubling of a school population, so forgive me if my reaction seems to be hyperventilating. Completely changes the character of the school and will likely turn it into another AAP-heavy Louise Archer or Haycock disaster.

Yep; you can add Colvin Run to that list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Vienna sounds ideal to me. And the biggest plus - no AAP!

Don't worry. They'll ruin it. A few years back formerly tiny Westbriar had about 420 students. Now with AAP and an addition they're projected at between 950 to 1000 in two years. NO school is safe in this system. AAP has forever warped sane schooling in this area and if you don't think the fever affects Vienna El. you're kidding yourself.

Latest CIP has Westbriar at 869 students in two years. Is the figure higher on the Dashboard? The projections for Westbriar may assume students from new construction in Tysons. The Vienna ES district doesn't include any Tysons projects. And many students at Westbriar live closer to Wolftrap and Colvin Run, each of which is projected to have extra capacity. Finally, FCPS expects to build another ES in the heart of Tysons at some point.

So I think you're hyperventilating a bit about Westbriar's future and, in any event, it doesn't mean Vienna will get huge any time soon. It's possible FCPS could formally move the small part of Freedom Hill in the Town of Vienna zoned for Madison to Vienna (currently, transfer requests are routinely granted), but that doesn't involve many kids.

Latest CIP is already outdated. These figures came from a meeting about Westbriar's addition and were confirmed by the principal. Yes, at some point, a new Tysons school will be built, but not in near future. Westbriar was a tiny school tucked on a tiny street that people didn't really care about until it became a center. Westbriar would not have gotten the addition if it didn't become a center --new construction in Tysons or no.

And we're talking about more than the doubling of a school population, so forgive me if my reaction seems to be hyperventilating. Completely changes the character of the school and will likely turn it into another AAP-heavy Louise Archer or Haycock disaster.

Yep; you can add Colvin Run to that list.

If you have a problem with AAP at Westbriar you're going to love Kilmer, with all the AAP kids there.

[Anonymous]

Kilmer's AAP center will eventually get smaller I'm assuming with Cooper being under-enrolled. The downside of being at a school without AAP especially in a school like Vienna with a high SES is that children your child is friends with will leave for the center eventually.

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Anonymous wrote:Kilmer's AAP center will eventually get smaller I'm assuming with Cooper being under-enrolled. The downside of being at a school without AAP especially in a school like Vienna with a high SES is that children your child is friends with will leave for the center eventually.

The enrollments at both Kilmer and Longfellow are up this year, while Cooper's enrollment is down again. Is this the last year for this nonsense? Cooper is smaller than many elementary schools now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Terra Centre is a good school - 550

+1 on Terra Centre!

Is 550 a small school now? That's 3 classes per grade.

I'm the person who added TC to the list - it is comparatively small to our current school - which is at about 850 enrollment. You can definitely feel the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Kilmer's AAP center will eventually get smaller I'm assuming with Cooper being under-enrolled. The downside of being at a school without AAP especially in a school like Vienna with a high SES is that children your child is friends with will leave for the center eventually.

Not if the county would make AAP much smaller. There should be plenty of kids in Gen Ed, but the increased AAP admittance is depleting these classes.

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Go for Haycock, OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Vienna sounds ideal to me. And the biggest plus - no AAP!

Don't worry. They'll ruin it. A few years back formerly tiny Westbriar had about 420 students. Now with AAP and an addition they're projected at between 950 to 1000 in two years. NO school is safe in this system. AAP has forever warped sane schooling in this area and if you don't think the fever affects Vienna El. you're kidding yourself.

Latest CIP has Westbriar at 869 students in two years. Is the figure higher on the Dashboard? The projections for Westbriar may assume students from new construction in Tysons. The Vienna ES district doesn't include any Tysons projects. And many students at Westbriar live closer to Wolftrap and Colvin Run, each of which is projected to have extra capacity. Finally, FCPS expects to build another ES in the heart of Tysons at some point.

So I think you're hyperventilating a bit about Westbriar's future and, in any event, it doesn't mean Vienna will get huge any time soon. It's possible FCPS could formally move the small part of Freedom Hill in the Town of Vienna zoned for Madison to Vienna (currently, transfer requests are routinely granted), but that doesn't involve many kids.

Latest CIP is already outdated. These figures came from a meeting about Westbriar's addition and were confirmed by the principal. Yes, at some point, a new Tysons school will be built, but not in near future. Westbriar was a tiny school tucked on a tiny street that people didn't really care about until it became a center. Westbriar would not have gotten the addition if it didn't become a center --new construction in Tysons or no.

And we're talking about more than the doubling of a school population, so forgive me if my reaction seems to be hyperventilating. Completely changes the character of the school and will likely turn it into another AAP-heavy Louise Archer or Haycock disaster.

Anti aap mediocre whites

My beef with AAP has nothing to do with being mediocre.... had a kid in GT when it actually meant something who would laugh at the kids being let into AAP today. It is a bloated program that arbitrarily separates kids using labels at a way too early an age. It is the tail that wags the FCPS dog leaving general education an afterthought....I'm surprised there haven't been lawsuits, but if it's growth continues I would not be surprised to see some.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Vienna sounds ideal to me. And the biggest plus - no AAP!

Don't worry. They'll ruin it. A few years back formerly tiny Westbriar had about 420 students. Now with AAP and an addition they're projected at between 950 to 1000 in two years. NO school is safe in this system. AAP has forever warped sane schooling in this area and if you don't think the fever affects Vienna El. you're kidding yourself.

Latest CIP has Westbriar at 869 students in two years. Is the figure higher on the Dashboard? The projections for Westbriar may assume students from new construction in Tysons. The Vienna ES district doesn't include any Tysons projects. And many students at Westbriar live closer to Wolftrap and Colvin Run, each of which is projected to have extra capacity. Finally, FCPS expects to build another ES in the heart of Tysons at some point.

So I think you're hyperventilating a bit about Westbriar's future and, in any event, it doesn't mean Vienna will get huge any time soon. It's possible FCPS could formally move the small part of Freedom Hill in the Town of Vienna zoned for Madison to Vienna (currently, transfer requests are routinely granted), but that doesn't involve many kids.

Latest CIP is already outdated. These figures came from a meeting about Westbriar's addition and were confirmed by the principal. Yes, at some point, a new Tysons school will be built, but not in near future. Westbriar was a tiny school tucked on a tiny street that people didn't really care about until it became a center. Westbriar would not have gotten the addition if it didn't become a center --new construction in Tysons or no.

And we're talking about more than the doubling of a school population, so forgive me if my reaction seems to be hyperventilating. Completely changes the character of the school and will likely turn it into another AAP-heavy Louise Archer or Haycock disaster.

Anti aap mediocre whites

My beef with AAP has nothing to do with being mediocre.... had a kid in GT when it actually meant something who would laugh at the kids being let into AAP today. It is a bloated program that arbitrarily separates kids using labels at a way too early an age. It is the tail that wags the FCPS dog leaving general education an afterthought....I'm surprised there haven't been lawsuits, but if it's growth continues I would not be surprised to see some.

I hope not. If so, please teach your DS manners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go for Haycock, OP.

Haycock enrollment is down about 75-80 students from a few years ago. Very glad FCPS acted when it did to open the center at Lemon Road. Haycock is by no means small but it would have over 1000 kids now had the AAP assignments not changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Go for Haycock, OP.

Haycock enrollment is down about 75-80 students from a few years ago. Very glad FCPS acted when it did to open the center at Lemon Road. Haycock is by no means small but it would have over 1000 kids now had the AAP assignments not changed.

Don't worry, Westbriar will fit the 1000 + kids bill and Lemon Road would be the same if it was in a better neighborhood. If you build them they will come. Opening more centers only allows the program to accept more kids at the margin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go for Haycock, OP.

Haycock enrollment is down about 75-80 students from a few years ago. Very glad FCPS acted when it did to open the center at Lemon Road. Haycock is by no means small but it would have over 1000 kids now had the AAP assignments not changed.

Don't worry, Westbriar will fit the 1000 + kids bill and Lemon Road would be the same if it was in a better neighborhood. If you build them they will come. Opening more centers only allows the program to accept more kids at the margin.

Yes, more Local Level IV Centers means more principal placements of kids that are not Center-eligible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Vienna sounds ideal to me. And the biggest plus - no AAP!

Don't worry. They'll ruin it. A few years back formerly tiny Westbriar had about 420 students. Now with AAP and an addition they're projected at between 950 to 1000 in two years. NO school is safe in this system. AAP has forever warped sane schooling in this area and if you don't think the fever affects Vienna El. you're kidding yourself.

Latest CIP has Westbriar at 869 students in two years. Is the figure higher on the Dashboard? The projections for Westbriar may assume students from new construction in Tysons. The Vienna ES district doesn't include any Tysons projects. And many students at Westbriar live closer to Wolftrap and Colvin Run, each of which is projected to have extra capacity. Finally, FCPS expects to build another ES in the heart of Tysons at some point.

So I think you're hyperventilating a bit about Westbriar's future and, in any event, it doesn't mean Vienna will get huge any time soon. It's possible FCPS could formally move the small part of Freedom Hill in the Town of Vienna zoned for Madison to Vienna (currently, transfer requests are routinely granted), but that doesn't involve many kids.

Latest CIP is already outdated. These figures came from a meeting about Westbriar's addition and were confirmed by the principal. Yes, at some point, a new Tysons school will be built, but not in near future. Westbriar was a tiny school tucked on a tiny street that people didn't really care about until it became a center. Westbriar would not have gotten the addition if it didn't become a center --new construction in Tysons or no.

And we're talking about more than the doubling of a school population, so forgive me if my reaction seems to be hyperventilating. Completely changes the character of the school and will likely turn it into another AAP-heavy Louise Archer or Haycock disaster.

Assuming this is correct, I still don't think it means Vienna ES will follow suit.

Vienna El. will not follow suit. The principal and other administration will not request and will actually adamantly refuse any idea of a Center school, they will not even consider a Local Level IV there.

Also, there are town ordinances that do not allow Vienna El. to have any trailers and they've already had renovations in recent years so would not be slated to get another addition or renovation for a very long time. So the likelihood of it having the ability to take on extra students as a center school is pretty nil.

I do agree though that AAP has certainly warped FCPS indefinitely. The program had noble beginnings but has avalanched into a out of control disaster. No one at Gatehouse can even touch this monster, it's taken on a life of it's own and at the detriment to the rest of the school system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does such a school exist? If so, please share the name and experience with the school.

Check out FCPS' Dashboard - listings for Spring 2014 enrollments are available:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Of the schools already mentioned, here are the corresponding Spring 2014 enrollment figures:

Fairfax Villa 596
Franklin Sherman 409
Lemon Road 482
Little Run 351
Olde Creek 439
Vienna 394
Waynewood 733

Terra Centre is a good school - 550

+1 on Terra Centre!

Is 550 a small school now? That's 3 classes per grade.

3 classes per grade is not small?