Buffet Catholicism?

[Anonymous]

You're not buffet Catholic - you're catholic, full stop. There are very few things that Catholics are actually obliged to believe. As long as you're not excommunicated, you're Catholic. Be the change!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with 13:25.

Also I believe that I don't want the conservatives to drive me out. So I stay, though often it's by a fingernail.

There is something soothing about ritual.

I agree with this too. I will always be catholic (my type of catholic) no matter how many idiots tell me to switch to episcopalian.

really - it's just a suggestion. Why call people who make a reasonable suggestion, given the similarities between the two religions,, an idiot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're not buffet Catholic - you're catholic, full stop. There are very few things that Catholics are actually obliged to believe. As long as you're not excommunicated, you're Catholic. Be the change!

There are some things short of ex-communication, though that are against the rules -- receiving communion if you're not "in good standing" for instance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're not buffet Catholic - you're catholic, full stop. There are very few things that Catholics are actually obliged to believe. As long as you're not excommunicated, you're Catholic. Be the change!

Can regular Catholics be the change -- doesn't the Pope have to be involved -- and the college of Cardinals

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As humans, the greatest sacrifice one can make is to lay down one's life for another. For Catholics, the crucifix is a constant reminder that Jesus made that sacrifice for all of mankind.

On a personal note, for me it's incredibly humbling (the sacrifice), comforting (the love) and joyful (the hope) all at once.

Jesus is not the only human being who lay down his life for others -- and most of the rest of them are forgotten -- and they die forever - no resurrection or bodily ascension into heaven or sitting at the right hand of the father for them. If they were catholics who died with a mortal sin on their souls, they'd go straight to hell, no matter the altruism of their death.

Please cite the Catechism where that is described.

I can't cite the where in the Catechism it states it but it is what old line Catholics believed - and also why it was necessary to go to weekly Mass - so if you died that week, you had a chance of going to Purgatory instead of Hell. Of course, daily Mass is even better because then you know you have a better chance of dying in grace. Of course all of this is man-made and not in the Bible which makes me scratch my head about Catholicism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with 13:25.

Also I believe that I don't want the conservatives to drive me out. So I stay, though often it's by a fingernail.

There is something soothing about ritual.

I agree with this too. I will always be catholic (my type of catholic) no matter how many idiots tell me to switch to episcopalian.

People make suggestions bc they (we) want to be helpful and constructive. No need to call them/us "idiots".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with 13:25.

Also I believe that I don't want the conservatives to drive me out. So I stay, though often it's by a fingernail.

There is something soothing about ritual.

I agree with this too. I will always be catholic (my type of catholic) no matter how many idiots tell me to switch to episcopalian.

People make suggestions bc they (we) want to be helpful and constructive. No need to call them/us "idiots".

unless you don't respect the opinions of people who aren't Catholic or have any suggestions that might steer people away from Catholicism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As humans, the greatest sacrifice one can make is to lay down one's life for another. For Catholics, the crucifix is a constant reminder that Jesus made that sacrifice for all of mankind.

On a personal note, for me it's incredibly humbling (the sacrifice), comforting (the love) and joyful (the hope) all at once.

Jesus is not the only human being who lay down his life for others -- and most of the rest of them are forgotten -- and they die forever - no resurrection or bodily ascension into heaven or sitting at the right hand of the father for them. If they were catholics who died with a mortal sin on their souls, they'd go straight to hell, no matter the altruism of their death.

Please cite the Catechism where that is described.

I can't cite the where in the Catechism it states it but it is what old line Catholics believed - and also why it was necessary to go to weekly Mass - so if you died that week, you had a chance of going to Purgatory instead of Hell. Of course, daily Mass is even better because then you know you have a better chance of dying in grace. Of course all of this is man-made and not in the Bible which makes me scratch my head about Catholicism.

Many of the Catholic rules are not bible-based. but let's face it, some of the pronouncements in the Bible are outrageous or at least silly and not suitable for any set of useful guidelines for living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with 13:25.

Also I believe that I don't want the conservatives to drive me out. So I stay, though often it's by a fingernail.

There is something soothing about ritual.

I agree with this too. I will always be catholic (my type of catholic) no matter how many idiots tell me to switch to episcopalian.

People make suggestions bc they (we) want to be helpful and constructive. No need to call them/us "idiots".

unless you don't respect the opinions of people who aren't Catholic or have any suggestions that might steer people away from Catholicism

Making suggestions that entail non-Catholic church options does not make me an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As humans, the greatest sacrifice one can make is to lay down one's life for another. For Catholics, the crucifix is a constant reminder that Jesus made that sacrifice for all of mankind.

On a personal note, for me it's incredibly humbling (the sacrifice), comforting (the love) and joyful (the hope) all at once.

Jesus is not the only human being who lay down his life for others -- and most of the rest of them are forgotten -- and they die forever - no resurrection or bodily ascension into heaven or sitting at the right hand of the father for them. If they were catholics who died with a mortal sin on their souls, they'd go straight to hell, no matter the altruism of their death.

Please cite the Catechism where that is described.

I can't cite the where in the Catechism it states it but it is what old line Catholics believed - and also why it was necessary to go to weekly Mass - so if you died that week, you had a chance of going to Purgatory instead of Hell. Of course, daily Mass is even better because then you know you have a better chance of dying in grace. Of course all of this is man-made and not in the Bible which makes me scratch my head about Catholicism.

Many of the Catholic rules are not bible-based. but let's face it, some of the pronouncements in the Bible are outrageous or at least silly and not suitable for any set of useful guidelines for living.

But you have to give the Catholic Church for creating the most rules that it insists on that are the truth that are not in any way bible-related: Celebate priests; priests being the only intercession to God; confession; Saints; the rule that the Saint must have performed two miracles; Mary worship; Limbo; purgatory; paying for masses to get the dead out of purgatory . . . and the list goes on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As humans, the greatest sacrifice one can make is to lay down one's life for another. For Catholics, the crucifix is a constant reminder that Jesus made that sacrifice for all of mankind.

On a personal note, for me it's incredibly humbling (the sacrifice), comforting (the love) and joyful (the hope) all at once.

Jesus is not the only human being who lay down his life for others -- and most of the rest of them are forgotten -- and they die forever - no resurrection or bodily ascension into heaven or sitting at the right hand of the father for them. If they were catholics who died with a mortal sin on their souls, they'd go straight to hell, no matter the altruism of their death.

Please cite the Catechism where that is described.

I can't cite the where in the Catechism it states it but it is what old line Catholics believed - and also why it was necessary to go to weekly Mass - so if you died that week, you had a chance of going to Purgatory instead of Hell. Of course, daily Mass is even better because then you know you have a better chance of dying in grace. Of course all of this is man-made and not in the Bible which makes me scratch my head about Catholicism.

Many of the Catholic rules are not bible-based. but let's face it, some of the pronouncements in the Bible are outrageous or at least silly and not suitable for any set of useful guidelines for living.

But you have to give the Catholic Church for creating the most rules that it insists on that are the truth that are not in any way bible-related: Celebate priests; priests being the only intercession to God; confession; Saints; the rule that the Saint must have performed two miracles; Mary worship; Limbo; purgatory; paying for masses to get the dead out of purgatory . . . and the list goes on.

Yeah -- the extra biblical stuff has been a real money-maker for the Church

[Anonymous]

NP. I just popped onto the Religion forum, although normally I try to stay away. You guys haven't changed a bit.

The usual anti-religion snark fails that are lame, boring and unfunny. Bigots bashing the Catholics (I'm not Catholic FWIW).

You people need to get a life. I have a life so I'm going away again -- see you in another few months. Hope a lightning bolt of maturity (deus ex machina? or not?) strikes you and makes your sad little lives better.

[Anonymous]

Just understand that not everyone will pick the same things from the buffet as you do. I am pro-marriage equality but against abortion and against the death penalty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I just popped onto the Religion forum, although normally I try to stay away. You guys haven't changed a bit.

The usual anti-religion snark fails that are lame, boring and unfunny. Bigots bashing the Catholics (I'm not Catholic FWIW).

You people need to get a life. I have a life so I'm going away again -- see you in another few months. Hope a lightning bolt of maturity (deus ex machina? or not?) strikes you and makes your sad little lives better.

Have a wonderful life and please don't worry about the "sad" lives being played out here, without the bolt of maturity that you think you've received. We're doing fine without you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just understand that not everyone will pick the same things from the buffet as you do. I am pro-marriage equality but against abortion and against the death penalty.

what about transubstantiation?