Proposal Implications: Loss of Proximity, Forced to go to Lowest Performing School, Concerns OOB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP -- race has absolutely nothing to do with this post

Right. Just keep telling yourself that.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

But neither school is 2 blocks from the OP's house. Another poster, was reportedly in a situation under a previous proposal that is no longer being considered that would transfer her away from Murch, even though Murch was reportedly 2 blocks from her house. In the current proposal, the closest kids to Murch who would be moved would live at Albemarle St. and 36th St, which is 5 blocks or .3 miles from Murch, and less than 3/4 of a mile from Hearst.

As far as understanding why, it's pretty easy. If the situation is Murch/Hearst, then the school that's somewhat closer to the OP's house is seriously overcrowded. The other school has space for more IB kids. Moving the boundaries will alleviate some of the crowding at Murch, and provide IB spots for students at Hearst. If the schools are not Murch/Hearst, the reasoning is almost certainly the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

Seriously. And how was that response a "troll'? They were just pointing out that many people live 8+ blocks from their IB schools.

[Anonymous]

OP, let me tell you something. There are several families at Hearst now that live closer to Janney (an even BETTER school than Murch) than to Hearst. Did they panic, get furious, try to take down the entire system? No, they didn't. They walk their kids to school everyday. They are active parents in the PTA and other committees and work to make the school even better. They socialize with other Hearst families but also with their neighbors that go to Janney.

It will be OK. Really, it will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, let me tell you something. There are several families at Hearst now that live closer to Janney (an even BETTER school than Murch) than to Hearst. Did they panic, get furious, try to take down the entire system? No, they didn't. They walk their kids to school everyday. They are active parents in the PTA and other committees and work to make the school even better. They socialize with other Hearst families but also with their neighbors that go to Janney.

It will be OK. Really, it will.

Yes, but all of these families knew that was the case when they bought their houses. I live one block away from the rezoning and never in a million years did I think my house would be zoned out of Murch. Yes, Murch is crowded, but I'm 4 blocks away! I, unlike many other people on my block, actually feel better about Hearst as a school than Murch because I like small schools and Murch is too big. But the commute to Hearst is just not workable with our two WOHP, one car household.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

Seriously. And how was that response a "troll'? They were just pointing out that many people live 8+ blocks from their IB schools.

PP "fat troll" here. Thanks PPs for coming to my defense. Correct, my family walks 8 blocks to school, playground, library and many more amenities that us DC folk claim as a benefit. As another PP mentioned if the subject is in fact Murch/Hearst the difference is probably more like 1-2 blocks. OP likely didn't state the schools/neighborhood impacted because she exaggerated her situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, let me tell you something. There are several families at Hearst now that live closer to Janney (an even BETTER school than Murch) than to Hearst. Did they panic, get furious, try to take down the entire system? No, they didn't. They walk their kids to school everyday. They are active parents in the PTA and other committees and work to make the school even better. They socialize with other Hearst families but also with their neighbors that go to Janney.

It will be OK. Really, it will.

Yes, but all of these families knew that was the case when they bought their houses. I live one block away from the rezoning and never in a million years did I think my house would be zoned out of Murch. Yes, Murch is crowded, but I'm 4 blocks away! I, unlike many other people on my block, actually feel better about Hearst as a school than Murch because I like small schools and Murch is too big. But the commute to Hearst is just not workable with our two WOHP, one car household.

Give your street/block before we can agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

What was mean about pointing out that a fat ass who's meanly dismissed another parents frustration about her child having to downgrade could probably use the exercise? Anyone who suggests that a parent should be okay with a lessened education and routing to an inferior school is mean IMO. So just meeting fire with fire. FWIW you're probably a dismissive fat ass too. May I suggest an 8 block walk for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

What was mean about pointing out that a fat ass who's meanly dismissed another parents frustration about her child having to downgrade could probably use the exercise? Anyone who suggests that a parent should be okay with a lessened education and routing to an inferior school is mean IMO. So just meeting fire with fire. FWIW you're probably a dismissive fat ass too. May I suggest an 8 block walk for you?

Wow. You certainly have some issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

What was mean about pointing out that a fat ass who's meanly dismissed another parents frustration about her child having to downgrade could probably use the exercise? Anyone who suggests that a parent should be okay with a lessened education and routing to an inferior school is mean IMO. So just meeting fire with fire. FWIW you're probably a dismissive fat ass too. May I suggest an 8 block walk for you?

Who's to say that Hearst is an inferior school than Murch? The only measurement you're using is scores. Hearst has a lot more variables than Murch so I don't think ANYone can argue that they're being sent to an inferior school. Get over yourselves. Show me that a kid went from Advanced at Murch then forced to go to Hearst and he became Proficient then we can talk.

[Anonymous]

Please don't feed the trolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

What was mean about pointing out that a fat ass who's meanly dismissed another parents frustration about her child having to downgrade could probably use the exercise? Anyone who suggests that a parent should be okay with a lessened education and routing to an inferior school is mean IMO. So just meeting fire with fire. FWIW you're probably a dismissive fat ass too. May I suggest an 8 block walk for you?

Who's to say that Hearst is an inferior school than Murch? The only measurement you're using is scores. Hearst has a lot more variables than Murch so I don't think ANYone can argue that they're being sent to an inferior school. Get over yourselves. Show me that a kid went from Advanced at Murch then forced to go to Hearst and he became Proficient then we can talk.

You get over yourself, egomaniac. Who said this was a Hearst/Murch discussion? You may have an ego problem, but I doubt you have ESP. OP doesn't want to be routed farther than her nearest school. She doesn't want to be the sacrificial lamb. I don't blame her. Next time, get over yourself before coming on here, troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you walk to a school that is less than a mile away?

I thought OP said her house was two blocks from Murch. It would be absurd to expect her to walk to some other school much farther away.

Please. My IB is 8 blocks away. It is just fine.

You're a nifty troll aren't you? Probably a fat ass who could use some exercise, in that case stroll your 8 blocks huffing and puffing to your fat heart's content. Not OP, but I'm with her. If an excellent school was 2 blocks away and there was some other school, good or bad, farther than 2 blocks, I wouldn't understand why I'm being routed to the farther school.

That seems like an unnecessarily mean response...fat ass? I would think a fat person huffing and puffing would not consider the 8 blocks "fine" to walk. You are clearly angry and miserable about something else going on in your own life and your comments are a reflection of YOU. Sheesh.

What was mean about pointing out that a fat ass who's meanly dismissed another parents frustration about her child having to downgrade could probably use the exercise? Anyone who suggests that a parent should be okay with a lessened education and routing to an inferior school is mean IMO. So just meeting fire with fire. FWIW you're probably a dismissive fat ass too. May I suggest an 8 block walk for you?

Who's to say that Hearst is an inferior school than Murch? The only measurement you're using is scores. Hearst has a lot more variables than Murch so I don't think ANYone can argue that they're being sent to an inferior school. Get over yourselves. Show me that a kid went from Advanced at Murch then forced to go to Hearst and he became Proficient then we can talk.

You get over yourself, egomaniac. Who said this was a Hearst/Murch discussion? You may have an ego problem, but I doubt you have ESP. OP doesn't want to be routed farther than her nearest school. She doesn't want to be the sacrificial lamb. I don't blame her. Next time, get over yourself before coming on here, troll.

^^ sorry, I meant to put that there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know you can't force people to attend their in-bound school, but I wish you could - maybe the city could give some kind of tax credit for attending your neighborhood school if it is currently less than a certain percentage in bounds and meets other criteria and possibly give them a weighted better chance of OOB lottery if the whole experiment fails and they end up re-imposing OOB lottery.

A better concept is "encourage" or "incentivize," with options that are actually attractive. With so many people clamoring for good neighborhood options, you'd think DCPS would be working on doing this. e.g. -- get neighborhood families to sign up by offering enrichment programs, increased police protection, after-school programs, better playgrounds, whatever.

Keep in mind if you switched all the kids from a JKLM to a closed, previously failing school in ward 8, that school would suddenly be as successful as the kids' previous school -- with a few points taken off for the long commute everyday and a lack of neighborhood camaraderie.

This is what your neighborhood school would be like if a critical mass of neighbors sent their kids to it. Plain and simple. THere's no other way to do it. It takes DCPS and parents to make it happen.

Is there enough trust and commitment to make this happen?

I agree with you. I'm about to be zoned out of Deal for our kid (we're in the weird section EOTP that is West Elem, but has access to Deal) but I also think that I could likely do more good if I am forced to make West - MacFarland - Roosevelt work. My kid will get a good education any place because I have the ability to supplement, but that isn't the case for all kids. And honestly, our neighborhood is changing so quickly (for the better) that maybe by the time our little kids get to middle school age, these schools could be comparable to Deal & Wilson. But I think the reason that the schools on the other side of the park are so successful is that the parents are there to force the issue. I'm willing to do the groundwork - I knew this might be a factor if I wanted to stay in the city and not flee to the burbs - but I also know I can't do it alone, and would need other parents to work with me on this. Would I rather the lines stay how they are so my kid can attend Deal? Of course. But if that's not going to be the reality, then I'm going to have to make it the reality on this side of the park, or move.