The most distinctive attribute about American education

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

You obviously don't know the full Rosa Parks story, unlike this UNC scholar athlete: http://mashable.com/2014/03/28/rosa-parks-146-word-essay/

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What other developed countries fire teachers based on years of experience? Last in, first out is the way we did it verses getting rid of ineffective teachers. But unions put teacher job protection above children's rights to competent teachers.

It buffoons me that out of 250,000+ teachers in California, < 100 were rated as ineffective and fired. Clearly with test scores, there are thousands of teachers which need to be removed from the classroom. Teachers which can't teach poor minorities are ineffective and need to be removed. Teachers HAVE to be able to teach ALL children despite their home life. Luckily the recent court ruling in CA will more the profession this way.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

You obviously don't know the full Rosa Parks story, unlike this UNC scholar athlete: http://mashable.com/2014/03/28/rosa-parks-146-word-essay/

That's inspiring. But it doesn't mean that Rosa Parks, who is far more admirable than I am, is going to resonate with every single kids. You need to give kids a range of inspiring heros and let them choose theirs.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

Hogwash. I know of no school that spends an entire year on one or two people. Even FDR doesn't have enough material to keep you on him for a year. You would have to venture out into other areas of WWII. C'mon PP.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

Hogwash. I know of no school that spends an entire year on one or two people. Even FDR doesn't have enough material to keep you on him for a year. You would have to venture out into other areas of WWII. C'mon PP.

PP again. We didn't have much money growing up but I'm from a different time when direction to the public library was part of the school's curriculum and, more importantly, a part of the community makeup.

Bottom line as previously stated, you need to read outside of the classroom. I do not know one well-educated person who did or does not read other than classwork. A library card is free....even today.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

How ironic that this very statement was made by African Americans for decades, and it took the black power movement to make it become a reality. DC found out in February that the creator of the traffic light used worldwide and gas mask was black, Garrett Morgan. So, guess there are more than just a couple of the same folks year after year.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

Hogwash. I know of no school that spends an entire year on one or two people. Even FDR doesn't have enough material to keep you on him for a year. You would have to venture out into other areas of WWII. C'mon PP.

PP again. We didn't have much money growing up but I'm from a different time when direction to the public library was part of the school's curriculum and, more importantly, a part of the community makeup.

Bottom line as previously stated, you need to read outside of the classroom. I do not know one well-educated person who did or does not read other than classwork. A library card is free....even today.

Stop with these ridiculous distortions. You really have no credibility when you try to put words in my mouth, like that I want schools to spend an entire year on FDR. No, you really are a douchebag if you pretend to ignore my clear point, which was that I want kids to study a WIDE RANGE of personalities and events.

You also have no credibility when you insist that kids have to go to the library to learn about FDR. Douchebag.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

How ironic that this very statement was made by African Americans for decades, and it took the black power movement to make it become a reality. DC found out in February that the creator of the traffic light used worldwide and gas mask was black, Garrett Morgan. So, guess there are more than just a couple of the same folks year after year.

Your point is that they learn about 3 AAs instead of just one 2 AAs? But it's OK they don't learn about FDR or TR or Vietnam?

Uh, OK.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

How ironic that this very statement was made by African Americans for decades, and it took the black power movement to make it become a reality. DC found out in February that the creator of the traffic light used worldwide and gas mask was black, Garrett Morgan. So, guess there are more than just a couple of the same folks year after year.

Your point is that they learn about 3 AAs instead of just one 2 AAs? But it's OK they don't learn about FDR or TR or Vietnam?

Uh, OK.

Yes, children should self-educate about FDR in the library. That should have been clear to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

It is not a racist statement. It is simply true. But once again you play the race card to make your point. So, kids need to check out the library if they would like to know who FDR was. Complete racist yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Waaay to much emphasis on MLK. We are studying European History this year -- so great to study a history where something happens instead of milking the MLK thing to death.

I always found it odd that DC's class spent more time on Rosa Parks by far than FDR.

My DCs would not even know who FDR is or what he did. Its MLK Day, week, month, year. Now studying European History and so surprised that many people "made history" -- by doing things besides giving a couple of speeches.

Maybe you should have your kid pick up a book OUTSIDE of the classroom if studying history other than European burns your drawers.

Yes, the most distinctive attribute about American education is that everyone expects that once you step outside the classroom your education ends. If not read in the classroom then blame the teacher how surprised you are that many other people "made history". Poorly veiled racist statement made by PP and most certainly one of the most ignorant. Have your kid pick up a book outside of the classroom now and then. Geez, the continual dumbing down of America.

C'mon, PP. Yes, that previous poster made a poorly veiled racist attack. But I know many extremely liberal parents, including myself, who feel the curriculum should expand beyond reviewing the same 2-3 people every single year.

It IS the school's job to teach a broad overview of history, going beyond the narrow American viewpoint, and a small number of Americans at that. Also, you can rant and try to blame the problem on how "everyone" thinks that education ends outside the classroom, but you know that's untrue and unfair for most families.

Hogwash. I know of no school that spends an entire year on one or two people. Even FDR doesn't have enough material to keep you on him for a year. You would have to venture out into other areas of WWII. C'mon PP.

PP again. We didn't have much money growing up but I'm from a different time when direction to the public library was part of the school's curriculum and, more importantly, a part of the community makeup.

Bottom line as previously stated, you need to read outside of the classroom. I do not know one well-educated person who did or does not read other than classwork. A library card is free....even today.

Stop with these ridiculous distortions. You really have no credibility when you try to put words in my mouth, like that I want schools to spend an entire year on FDR. No, you really are a douchebag if you pretend to ignore my clear point, which was that I want kids to study a WIDE RANGE of personalities and events.

You also have no credibility when you insist that kids have to go to the library to learn about FDR. Douchebag.

I am not the poster but you certainly lose credibility with your foul mouth. If you think you are credible using one of the worst profane words to make your point then you are no more credible then what you accuse the other poster of.

Sewer language shouldn't even remotely be part of an 'intelligent' debate. Period.