The most distinctive attribute about American education

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:we do not take care of each other. we have an everyone for themselves mentality.


I actually don't agree that Americans don't care about others. We have a long tradition of volunteering in this country. Lots of people give their time feeding those who don't have enough food, collecting clothing, helping in schools, coaching youth sports groups, leading scout and other community youth groups with no expectation of any kind of financial recompense. They help others just because it's the right thing to do. The act of volunteering is respected in the U.S.
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And we are willing to expose our children to a constant stream of violent images. The common thread in all these mass killings is exposure to violence.


Wrong. Do you have any idea how popular violent video games are worldwide? The common thread in this is easy access to guns.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:After the shooting in Newtown, I seriously just wanted to move out of the US (my DH is from another country and we could move there). That was just a knee-jerk reaction, and we didn't move. There are so many great things about this country, but seriously, this is one of the dumbest, saddest, arrogant thing about this country. Normally, I don't care what people from other countries think about us, but this one, I would agree. Even after a massacre of little children, there's no political will to save our kids. And yet, we are willing to risk our military service members to save children in other countries. The intervention here doesn't require anyone to put their lives on the line. WTF is wrong with some people in this country..like Joe the Plumber who stated that a few young children dying doesn't give anyone the right to take away his 2nd amendment.


This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Sometimes it's different weapons but same outcome. There are bombings in Spain and England, the killings in the restaurant in Afghanistan, the nightclub in Thailand, the mall in Kenya, etc. Where would you move where this doesn't happen? It's hard to police crazy people, or religious or political zealots.



Are you saying the US is like Afghanistan? You have to be kidding to compare the two.

Let's take the UK, since you mention it. How many school bombings have you heard about there vs. how many school related shootings have we heard about here just in 2014 (and we're only half way through the year)? My DW is from there, and she's told me a bit about this kind of thing. Years ago, apparently, there was a school shooting in Scotland. That was enough for the gov't to put in very strict gun laws. You really don't hear about school shootings in any other country developed country other than here. Yes, there are stabbings in other countries, but a knife can do much less damage than an assault rifle. That's just common sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
And we are willing to expose our children to a constant stream of violent images. The common thread in all these mass killings is exposure to violence.


Wrong. Do you have any idea how popular violent video games are worldwide? The common thread in this is easy access to guns.


Is easy access to guns something new in our society?
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Anonymous wrote:What gun control regulations would you impose if you could? Explain why you think your proposal would prevent another Newton?


I would start first with the assault rifles. Why does any civilian need an assault rifle? yes, a handgun can kill kids, too (as it does ever year either by accident or not). But it doesn't take a genius to realize that a handgun would've done much less damage than an assault rifle.

Secondly, we need to close the loopholes for gun checks. Why can you buy a gun at a gun show with no background checks? Buying a gun over the internet should be illegal as well. Guns should only be sold at government sanctioned stores, like we do with alcohol in DMV area.

Is this going to prevent all school shootings? Probably not, but it will surely make it harder for people to get their hands on it. And let's be clear, the vast majority (if not all) of the school shootings were committed by boys/men from middle/upper class families, not by gang-bangers/felons. Yes, felons will get their hands on a gun from the black market and that is a problem, too. But if stricter gun control can reduce school shootings and save the lives of little children, I think it's worth this.



Is there evidence to support the suggestion that stricter gun laws lead to less violence? Doesn't Connecticut have comparatively strict gun laws? I know Chicago does.

It seems to me that our gun laws haven't changed much over the years (if anything they are more strict) but the use of guns by mentally/emotionally unstable people has increased. Why is that? To me the common thread is not guns, but mental/emotional instability. One thing I'd propose is that the media should refuse to publish the name of these mass murders. The need to be relevant/recognized has a strange impact on an unstable mind and it seems that a disturbing number of these high school kids who go on a rampage are all too familiar with the names Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold - to an unstable mind being infamous is just as good as being famous.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After the shooting in Newtown, I seriously just wanted to move out of the US (my DH is from another country and we could move there). That was just a knee-jerk reaction, and we didn't move. There are so many great things about this country, but seriously, this is one of the dumbest, saddest, arrogant thing about this country. Normally, I don't care what people from other countries think about us, but this one, I would agree. Even after a massacre of little children, there's no political will to save our kids. And yet, we are willing to risk our military service members to save children in other countries. The intervention here doesn't require anyone to put their lives on the line. WTF is wrong with some people in this country..like Joe the Plumber who stated that a few young children dying doesn't give anyone the right to take away his 2nd amendment.


This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Sometimes it's different weapons but same outcome. There are bombings in Spain and England, the killings in the restaurant in Afghanistan, the nightclub in Thailand, the mall in Kenya, etc. Where would you move where this doesn't happen? It's hard to police crazy people, or religious or political zealots.



Are you saying the US is like Afghanistan? You have to be kidding to compare the two.

Let's take the UK, since you mention it. How many school bombings have you heard about there vs. how many school related shootings have we heard about here just in 2014 (and we're only half way through the year)? My DW is from there, and she's told me a bit about this kind of thing. Years ago, apparently, there was a school shooting in Scotland. That was enough for the gov't to put in very strict gun laws. You really don't hear about school shootings in any other country developed country other than here. Yes, there are stabbings in other countries, but a knife can do much less damage than an assault rifle. That's just common sense.


No, I'm asking where you planned to move to get away from random violence. No place seems to be particularly immune. It may not always be in schools but it can be anywhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After the shooting in Newtown, I seriously just wanted to move out of the US (my DH is from another country and we could move there). That was just a knee-jerk reaction, and we didn't move. There are so many great things about this country, but seriously, this is one of the dumbest, saddest, arrogant thing about this country. Normally, I don't care what people from other countries think about us, but this one, I would agree. Even after a massacre of little children, there's no political will to save our kids. And yet, we are willing to risk our military service members to save children in other countries. The intervention here doesn't require anyone to put their lives on the line. WTF is wrong with some people in this country..like Joe the Plumber who stated that a few young children dying doesn't give anyone the right to take away his 2nd amendment.


This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Sometimes it's different weapons but same outcome. There are bombings in Spain and England, the killings in the restaurant in Afghanistan, the nightclub in Thailand, the mall in Kenya, etc. Where would you move where this doesn't happen? It's hard to police crazy people, or religious or political zealots.



Are you saying the US is like Afghanistan? You have to be kidding to compare the two.

Let's take the UK, since you mention it. How many school bombings have you heard about there vs. how many school related shootings have we heard about here just in 2014 (and we're only half way through the year)? My DW is from there, and she's told me a bit about this kind of thing. Years ago, apparently, there was a school shooting in Scotland. That was enough for the gov't to put in very strict gun laws. You really don't hear about school shootings in any other country developed country other than here. Yes, there are stabbings in other countries, but a knife can do much less damage than an assault rifle. That's just common sense.


No, I'm asking where you planned to move to get away from random violence. No place seems to be particularly immune. It may not always be in schools but it can be anywhere.


Homogenous prosperous societies tend to have less random violence.
Anonymous
Anyone interested in learning about the science and reader arch into the mind of those who kill should read "On Killing"

http://books.google.com/books/about/On_Killing.html?id=LgpKId3vZcIC
Anonymous
Research, not reader arch
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After the shooting in Newtown, I seriously just wanted to move out of the US (my DH is from another country and we could move there). That was just a knee-jerk reaction, and we didn't move. There are so many great things about this country, but seriously, this is one of the dumbest, saddest, arrogant thing about this country. Normally, I don't care what people from other countries think about us, but this one, I would agree. Even after a massacre of little children, there's no political will to save our kids. And yet, we are willing to risk our military service members to save children in other countries. The intervention here doesn't require anyone to put their lives on the line. WTF is wrong with some people in this country..like Joe the Plumber who stated that a few young children dying doesn't give anyone the right to take away his 2nd amendment.


This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Sometimes it's different weapons but same outcome. There are bombings in Spain and England, the killings in the restaurant in Afghanistan, the nightclub in Thailand, the mall in Kenya, etc. Where would you move where this doesn't happen? It's hard to police crazy people, or religious or political zealots.



Are you saying the US is like Afghanistan? You have to be kidding to compare the two.

Let's take the UK, since you mention it. How many school bombings have you heard about there vs. how many school related shootings have we heard about here just in 2014 (and we're only half way through the year)? My DW is from there, and she's told me a bit about this kind of thing. Years ago, apparently, there was a school shooting in Scotland. That was enough for the gov't to put in very strict gun laws. You really don't hear about school shootings in any other country developed country other than here. Yes, there are stabbings in other countries, but a knife can do much less damage than an assault rifle. That's just common sense.


No, I'm asking where you planned to move to get away from random violence. No place seems to be particularly immune. It may not always be in schools but it can be anywhere.


Homogenous prosperous societies tend to have less random violence.


The U.K. is far from homogenous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After the shooting in Newtown, I seriously just wanted to move out of the US (my DH is from another country and we could move there). That was just a knee-jerk reaction, and we didn't move. There are so many great things about this country, but seriously, this is one of the dumbest, saddest, arrogant thing about this country. Normally, I don't care what people from other countries think about us, but this one, I would agree. Even after a massacre of little children, there's no political will to save our kids. And yet, we are willing to risk our military service members to save children in other countries. The intervention here doesn't require anyone to put their lives on the line. WTF is wrong with some people in this country..like Joe the Plumber who stated that a few young children dying doesn't give anyone the right to take away his 2nd amendment.


This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Sometimes it's different weapons but same outcome. There are bombings in Spain and England, the killings in the restaurant in Afghanistan, the nightclub in Thailand, the mall in Kenya, etc. Where would you move where this doesn't happen? It's hard to police crazy people, or religious or political zealots.



Are you saying the US is like Afghanistan? You have to be kidding to compare the two.

Let's take the UK, since you mention it. How many school bombings have you heard about there vs. how many school related shootings have we heard about here just in 2014 (and we're only half way through the year)? My DW is from there, and she's told me a bit about this kind of thing. Years ago, apparently, there was a school shooting in Scotland. That was enough for the gov't to put in very strict gun laws. You really don't hear about school shootings in any other country developed country other than here. Yes, there are stabbings in other countries, but a knife can do much less damage than an assault rifle. That's just common sense.


No, I'm asking where you planned to move to get away from random violence. No place seems to be particularly immune. It may not always be in schools but it can be anywhere.


Homogenous prosperous societies tend to have less random violence.


The U.K. is far from homogenous.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What gun control regulations would you impose if you could? Explain why you think your proposal would prevent another Newton?

It is obvious that since all these shooting are by males, it should be illegal for males to own a gun. While we're at it, they should be oppressed and forced to wear a berka.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After the shooting in Newtown, I seriously just wanted to move out of the US (my DH is from another country and we could move there). That was just a knee-jerk reaction, and we didn't move. There are so many great things about this country, but seriously, this is one of the dumbest, saddest, arrogant thing about this country. Normally, I don't care what people from other countries think about us, but this one, I would agree. Even after a massacre of little children, there's no political will to save our kids. And yet, we are willing to risk our military service members to save children in other countries. The intervention here doesn't require anyone to put their lives on the line. WTF is wrong with some people in this country..like Joe the Plumber who stated that a few young children dying doesn't give anyone the right to take away his 2nd amendment.


This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Sometimes it's different weapons but same outcome. There are bombings in Spain and England, the killings in the restaurant in Afghanistan, the nightclub in Thailand, the mall in Kenya, etc. Where would you move where this doesn't happen? It's hard to police crazy people, or religious or political zealots.



Are you saying the US is like Afghanistan? You have to be kidding to compare the two.

Let's take the UK, since you mention it. How many school bombings have you heard about there vs. how many school related shootings have we heard about here just in 2014 (and we're only half way through the year)? My DW is from there, and she's told me a bit about this kind of thing. Years ago, apparently, there was a school shooting in Scotland. That was enough for the gov't to put in very strict gun laws. You really don't hear about school shootings in any other country developed country other than here. Yes, there are stabbings in other countries, but a knife can do much less damage than an assault rifle. That's just common sense.


No, I'm asking where you planned to move to get away from random violence. No place seems to be particularly immune. It may not always be in schools but it can be anywhere.


Homogenous prosperous societies tend to have less random violence.


The U.K. is far from homogenous.


it is a lot more homogenous than the US.

that said the UK is really shitty for non-gun crimes. B&E, Robbery, fighting, general 'yobbish' behavior as they would like to say.
Anonymous
Is there evidence to support the suggestion that stricter gun laws lead to less violence? Doesn't Connecticut have comparatively strict gun laws? I know Chicago does.

It seems to me that our gun laws haven't changed much over the years (if anything they are more strict) but the use of guns by mentally/emotionally unstable people has increased. Why is that? To me the common thread is not guns, but mental/emotional instability. One thing I'd propose is that the media should refuse to publish the name of these mass murders. The need to be relevant/recognized has a strange impact on an unstable mind and it seems that a disturbing number of these high school kids who go on a rampage are all too familiar with the names Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold - to an unstable mind being infamous is just as good as being famous.


Strict gun laws in places such as Chicago mean nothing when Chicago is right next to Indiana. DC and Virginia have a similar symbiosis. And the percentage of mentally ill people is about the same here as it is anywhere else in the world. So what's our problem again? Oh yeah, guns.

And if you think gun laws are getting more strict, you haven't been paying attention. Georgia, anybody?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Is there evidence to support the suggestion that stricter gun laws lead to less violence? Doesn't Connecticut have comparatively strict gun laws? I know Chicago does.

It seems to me that our gun laws haven't changed much over the years (if anything they are more strict) but the use of guns by mentally/emotionally unstable people has increased. Why is that? To me the common thread is not guns, but mental/emotional instability. One thing I'd propose is that the media should refuse to publish the name of these mass murders. The need to be relevant/recognized has a strange impact on an unstable mind and it seems that a disturbing number of these high school kids who go on a rampage are all too familiar with the names Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold - to an unstable mind being infamous is just as good as being famous.


Strict gun laws in places such as Chicago mean nothing when Chicago is right next to Indiana. DC and Virginia have a similar symbiosis. And the percentage of mentally ill people is about the same here as it is anywhere else in the world. So what's our problem again? Oh yeah, guns.

And if you think gun laws are getting more strict, you haven't been paying attention. Georgia, anybody?


You try to explain why strict gun laws haven't worked in places like Chicago, but you haven't attempted to provide examples of where strict gun laws have worked in the a United States. Regarding Chicago, you blame the laws in Indiana, but if the laws in Indiana were to blame for Chicago, wouldn't Indiana have at least as much of a problem as Chicago?
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