Why Your Brilliant Child Didn't Get Into The Ivies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Per US News, it's

Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell

Probably the only thing people familiar with the Ivies would agree upon is that Brown and Cornell are the lesser Ivies.

Probably the only thing people familiar with the Ivies would agree upon is that this is a ridiculous topic. Or, at least, that's what I agree upon, and I've known people who went to all of them.

[Anonymous]

Cornell is a good state school, but an anomaly in the Ivies. Brown is where rich kids of middling intelligence go when their parents can buy their way into an Ivy through large donations or social connections.

[Anonymous]

PP and everyone else who refuses to accept that the Ivy League is tiered is one, a moron, and two, never attended an Ivy League school. Those who did know where they and their respective schools are in the pecking order. Read quote below from Ted Cruz and then go back and view clips from Family Guy and the Simpsons, which were written by Ivy League graduates.

"As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn’t been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz’s law-school roommates: “He said he didn’t want anybody from ‘minor Ivies’ like Penn or Brown.”"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with PP -- Let's not hide the fact that Ivy does not guarantee success. Let's also agree that it does provide access and opportunity. Do you seriously think the Barrack Obama would have reached the presidency without his Columbia and Harvard Law degrees? Not likely! What if he had gone to the University of Hawaii and UC-Davis Law. First, he would not have had the access to the Ivy League network. Second, he would not have had the brand or credibility that comes with a top Ivy League degree. Let's be honest, some of his comments during 2008 were just as outrageous as those made by Sarah Palin but he got a pass because of his Ivy League degrees and Sarah Palin did not because she went to a state school. You could make another argument using President Bush.

This is a stupid argument. Indulge in too much Thanksgiving wine, PP?

+1. More like corn mash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP and everyone else who refuses to accept that the Ivy League is tiered is one, a moron, and two, never attended an Ivy League school. Those who did know where they and their respective schools are in the pecking order. Read quote below from Ted Cruz and then go back and view clips from Family Guy and the Simpsons, which were written by Ivy League graduates.

"As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn’t been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz’s law-school roommates: “He said he didn’t want anybody from ‘minor Ivies’ like Penn or Brown.”"

So Ted Cruz is now the voice of authority about Ivy league schools? Are you serious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP and everyone else who refuses to accept that the Ivy League is tiered is one, a moron, and two, never attended an Ivy League school. Those who did know where they and their respective schools are in the pecking order. Read quote below from Ted Cruz and then go back and view clips from Family Guy and the Simpsons, which were written by Ivy League graduates.

"As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn’t been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz’s law-school roommates: “He said he didn’t want anybody from ‘minor Ivies’ like Penn or Brown.”"

The writers from the comedy shows are humorist. Mr. Cruz is a blowhard making such a pretentious statement about the intellect of other students. I don't think any reasonable person would acknowledge them as a source for educational planning for college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP and everyone else who refuses to accept that the Ivy League is tiered is one, a moron, and two, never attended an Ivy League school. Those who did know where they and their respective schools are in the pecking order. Read quote below from Ted Cruz and then go back and view clips from Family Guy and the Simpsons, which were written by Ivy League graduates.

"As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn’t been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz’s law-school roommates: “He said he didn’t want anybody from ‘minor Ivies’ like Penn or Brown.”"

Well, if Ted Cruz said so, then it must be so!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per US News, it's

Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell

Probably the only thing people familiar with the Ivies would agree upon is that Brown and Cornell are the lesser Ivies.

Probably the only thing people familiar with the Ivies would agree upon is that this is a ridiculous topic. Or, at least, that's what I agree upon, and I've known people who went to all of them.


Ok, I'll play this game...WTF is a "lesser Ivie"?????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP and everyone else who refuses to accept that the Ivy League is tiered is one, a moron, and two, never attended an Ivy League school. Those who did know where they and their respective schools are in the pecking order. Read quote below from Ted Cruz and then go back and view clips from Family Guy and the Simpsons, which were written by Ivy League graduates.

"As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn’t been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz’s law-school roommates: “He said he didn’t want anybody from ‘minor Ivies’ like Penn or Brown.”"

The writers from the comedy shows are humorist. Mr. Cruz is a blowhard making such a pretentious statement about the intellect of other students. I don't think any reasonable person would acknowledge them as a source for educational planning for college.

Ha. I remember not being invited to those study groups as a non-Ivy grad. I still made law review and got the clerkships that the study group guys (and they were mostly guys) coveted. So there.

[Anonymous]

You guys have too much time.

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure my kids won't morph into Ted Cruz no matter where they go to college, thankfully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP and everyone else who refuses to accept that the Ivy League is tiered is one, a moron, and two, never attended an Ivy League school. Those who did know where they and their respective schools are in the pecking order. Read quote below from Ted Cruz and then go back and view clips from Family Guy and the Simpsons, which were written by Ivy League graduates.

"As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn’t been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz’s law-school roommates: “He said he didn’t want anybody from ‘minor Ivies’ like Penn or Brown.”"

The writers from the comedy shows are humorist. Mr. Cruz is a blowhard making such a pretentious statement about the intellect of other students. I don't think any reasonable person would acknowledge them as a source for educational planning for college.

Ha. I remember not being invited to those study groups as a non-Ivy grad. I still made law review and got the clerkships that the study group guys (and they were mostly guys) coveted. So there.

I don't think the argument is that one can't succeed if one attends a non-Ivy or lower-Ivy. We all know that one can. The argument is that the perception exists that the Ivy Leagues is tiered. Certain schools fall into the top tier, others into a middle tier and others into a bottom tier. The perception exists in the minds of those affiliated with an Ivy League institution and the media, which is supported by a few examples above. I am sure that if you look at hard data, such as yield rates, or ask the admissions officers at each school who their direct competition is, you could probably find support for the above argument. In the end, it is all mute. The large majority of kids (99%) would jump at the opportunity to attend any Ivy League school.

[Anonymous]

^^^You'd be surprised at the number of kids who prefer academic venues other than Ivy. It all depends on what you're looking for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP and everyone else who refuses to accept that the Ivy League is tiered is one, a moron, and two, never attended an Ivy League school. Those who did know where they and their respective schools are in the pecking order. Read quote below from Ted Cruz and then go back and view clips from Family Guy and the Simpsons, which were written by Ivy League graduates.

"As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn’t been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz’s law-school roommates: “He said he didn’t want anybody from ‘minor Ivies’ like Penn or Brown.”"

Well, if Ted Cruz said so, then it must be so!

I have a visceral hatred of that guy. I hope his presidential ambitions end early in 2016, because I don't think I can take him as a candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^You'd be surprised at the number of kids who prefer academic venues other than Ivy. It all depends on what you're looking for.

DC was accepted at an Ivy but chose Northwestern because Harvard did not offer DC's program. Though some kids (and their parents) will choose an Ivy (if accepted) strictly for name recognition, my DC made the right choice and is in the program wanted.