The needs and requirements of gifted children in private school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most privates have plenty of kids in high IQ ranges. Only publics call them "gifted" ....

I agree. While it sure feels good to get a report saying your child has a FSIQ of 140-160, and it certainly suggests your child is smart, the class of kids with those scores is not quite as small as you might initially believe. I say that as a parent of two children with scores in that range. They're sort of clever, but so are most of their peers at the private school they attend.

Thank you. So agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a poster here who thinks she can read our minds and read our mail. Draw your own conclusions about your children, you know nothing of ours.

No, I have never claimed to be a mind reader. However, if anyone says that their regular private or public school is full of kids with 150+ IQs, I know that person is either misinformed or just lying. Once again: Statistically, 0.1% of the world's population has an IQ of 145 or above, the level required to be deemed profoundly gifted. That means that one child in about 2,000 has an IQ above 150 on the Stanford-Binet. So if there are roughly 100,000 kids (I’m just using this number to illustrate a point) in private schools in the DC Metro area, statistically only 200 of those children will have an IQ that qualifies as profoundly gifted (200 out of 100,000!!!). This means that Sidwell, St. Albans/NCS, etc. cannot possibly fill their seats with kids at this level. Many of you are mistaking very bright, hardworking students for children who are profoundly gifted—they are NOT the same. Calm down, I am not saying that profoundly gifted kids are better than the merely gifted/bright kids out there; they are just different.

Enough already!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would I be jealous when my children are in the same range? You can tell yourself this is exceptional but go to the private schools that are most often discussed here and it isn't unusual at all. PP asked where she could send her child to school and the answer is anywhere.

You are jealous, and your kids' IQs are nowhere near 150. Private schools (including the "big three") are NOT full of 150 plus IQ kids...No matter what you have read on DCUM. Statistically, 0.1% of the world's population has an IQ of 145 or above, the level required to be deemed profoundly gifted. That means that one child in about 2,000 has an IQ above 150 on the Stanford-Binet. There are no regular schools around here, or anywhere else, that are full of profoundly gifted kids--it is statistically impossible. I suggest that you look into the Davidson Young Scholars program and educate yourself about what a profoundly gifted child really looks like... and the very real challenges they face in regular schools (public or private). There is a big difference between a very bright, hardworking child, and a child who is profoundly gifted.

I'm glad you know everything, including my children's IQ scores. Since they attend privates that require them, they've been tested. Yes I know the results. They are excellent students, sure, and they are challenged. There are plenty of schools in this area that can do this. Their IQ is not something to be proud of nor is another child's IQ something to be jealous of. Its not an accomplishment. I love the way parents think they've achieved something because they have children with a certain IQ. You didn't do that and you have nothing to be proud of. Plenty of parents can blow it, actually, by telling their children how smart they are. This has been studied, and children who are told they are smart feel they don't have to work hard to achieve anything and when they don't meet whatever stellar levels they believe are expected of them, they feel like failures. I always praise effort, not intelligence. My children do not know their IQ scores. As a result, they work hard and have done well in school. That isn't because of their smarts, its what they do with it.

BTW, both me and my DH were tested as children and scored over 160. We were both successful students but by no means freaks of nature.

Its a number. What it conveys is very limited. Parents should not be looking for schools based on one number.

"Me and DH" refuse to believe that you were a successful student in English class. You lost all credibility here, and you can't blame it on a typo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a poster here who thinks she can read our minds and read our mail. Draw your own conclusions about your children, you know nothing of ours.

No, I have never claimed to be a mind reader. However, if anyone says that their regular private or public school is full of kids with 150+ IQs, I know that person is either misinformed or just lying. Once again: Statistically, 0.1% of the world's population has an IQ of 145 or above, the level required to be deemed profoundly gifted. That means that one child in about 2,000 has an IQ above 150 on the Stanford-Binet. So if there are roughly 100,000 kids (I’m just using this number to illustrate a point) in private schools in the DC Metro area, statistically only 200 of those children will have an IQ that qualifies as profoundly gifted (200 out of 100,000!!!). This means that Sidwell, St. Albans/NCS, etc. cannot possibly fill their seats with kids at this level. Many of you are mistaking very bright, hardworking students for children who are profoundly gifted—they are NOT the same. Calm down, I am not saying that profoundly gifted kids are better than the merely gifted/bright kids out there; they are just different.

Enough already!!

What? Is the truth too painful?

[Anonymous]

How do you get your child's IQ tested?

[Anonymous]

Many schools test IQs pp and you can also do it online.

[Anonymous]

MENSA will do it for you for a $40.00 fee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would I be jealous when my children are in the same range? You can tell yourself this is exceptional but go to the private schools that are most often discussed here and it isn't unusual at all. PP asked where she could send her child to school and the answer is anywhere.

You are jealous, and your kids' IQs are nowhere near 150. Private schools (including the "big three") are NOT full of 150 plus IQ kids...No matter what you have read on DCUM. Statistically, 0.1% of the world's population has an IQ of 145 or above, the level required to be deemed profoundly gifted. That means that one child in about 2,000 has an IQ above 150 on the Stanford-Binet. There are no regular schools around here, or anywhere else, that are full of profoundly gifted kids--it is statistically impossible. I suggest that you look into the Davidson Young Scholars program and educate yourself about what a profoundly gifted child really looks like... and the very real challenges they face in regular schools (public or private). There is a big difference between a very bright, hardworking child, and a child who is profoundly gifted.

I'm glad you know everything, including my children's IQ scores. Since they attend privates that require them, they've been tested. Yes I know the results. They are excellent students, sure, and they are challenged. There are plenty of schools in this area that can do this. Their IQ is not something to be proud of nor is another child's IQ something to be jealous of. Its not an accomplishment. I love the way parents think they've achieved something because they have children with a certain IQ. You didn't do that and you have nothing to be proud of. Plenty of parents can blow it, actually, by telling their children how smart they are. This has been studied, and children who are told they are smart feel they don't have to work hard to achieve anything and when they don't meet whatever stellar levels they believe are expected of them, they feel like failures. I always praise effort, not intelligence. My children do not know their IQ scores. As a result, they work hard and have done well in school. That isn't because of their smarts, its what they do with it.

BTW, both me and my DH were tested as children and scored over 160. We were both successful students but by no means freaks of nature.

Its a number. What it conveys is very limited. Parents should not be looking for schools based on one number.

"Me and DH" refuse to believe that you were a successful student in English class. You lost all credibility here, and you can't blame it on a typo.

You are right, I must be a big fat liar because of a grammatical error contained in informal writing. Sometimes when I am posting here I also fail to capitalize at the beginning of a sentence so thats another indication that I'm a liar, liar pants on fire. You got me.

[Anonymous]

Ah...deflect the blame pp. No one but a hillbilly says "me and..."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids are really at 150-160, they would already know they are different from the other kids. You wouldn't need to tell them. You would facing a whole different set of academic and social issues that you're apparently unaware of. In your search for answers, you'd already be aware of Davidson's, because several teachers would have made you aware.

New poster. Really? I didn't know I was different until I got my PG score in 7th grade. How about you other people upthread? Did you know you had the golden halo of gifted and were somehow more special than all the other kids before someone told you that you were profoundly gifted? I knew I was good at school but that was it. I think the gifted label causes problems (as another poster alluded to) because of the potential for work ethic problems, so my kids will not be told their scores and I will not be doing gymnastics to get them into a "special school". Regular private works for us.

I'm the PP with an IQ over 160 and I didn't think I was "different". I knew I was bright but I went to school with quite a few bright kids, and quite a few who were more successful students than I was but I don't think I had a great work ethic.

IQ scores were calculated differently back in the day as well; it was calculated by dividing the mental age by the chronological age, and values above 160 were uncommon but not exceptionally rare. IQ's now days are done using a normal distribution of values, and scores that were in the 160+/- range on previous IQ tests would probably land in the 140 +/- range now. The WISC test now has a ceiling of 160 unless special extended norms are used, and people who score above this are very rare.

[Anonymous]

my sister had a 186 IQ listed in the 1970s and my brother 146..it's really not that unusual

[Anonymous]

I want to know how PP knows the IQ scores of most of the other kids at her school, so that she knows with certainty that everybody is 150-160. At her school, do the moms discuss IQs on the carpool line?

[Anonymous]

Any time I see the word "snowflake" in a posting on this site I know can safely stop reading without fear of missing anything valuable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah...deflect the blame pp. No one but a hillbilly says "me and..."

Hillbilly? Is it 1965 at your house?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any time I see the word "snowflake" in a posting on this site I know can safely stop reading without fear of missing anything valuable.

Your first tip should have been the PP asserting that her school was filled with kids with IQs of 150 to 160. What an idiot, so to speak.