The needs and requirements of gifted children in private school
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Anonymous
Uh, no. Tons of posters on DCUM reporting their snowflakes have 99pctile test scores =/= tons of highly and profoundly gifted kids, even in the super-smart DC area. |
Anonymous
You can call it whatever you want but its not exceptional. Thats the point of PP's post, that her DC was exceptional because of IQ and wouldn't fit in any school. I just pointed out that there are many kids like this in DC schools. |
Anonymous
I generally find gifted sited pompous and annoying, but you need this: www.hoagiesgifted.org/underserved.htm IQs of 145-159 appear in the population at a rate of 1/1000-1/10,000. |
Anonymous
| sites not sited |
Anonymous
There's a lot of bunk on that website and if the data has a reliable source its probably dated. I've read that IQs are rising substantially -- more kids are testing at the higher levels. I certainly know not only many children in the 145-159 range, I know quite a few over 160. |
Anonymous
| Yes, IQs have risen steadily since 1900. There's even a name for this - Flynn effect? I could be wrong. But I don't think the rise can have been tremendous since 1990 or 2000 or whenever this table was put together. |
Anonymous
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Here's an article by Flynn himself:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444032404578006612858486012.html Its says the mean is now 130 to 150. |
Anonymous
There's no citation in the hoagies article to that specific stat but there is a general citation to studies going back to 1925. The Flynn article above says IQs have gone up 5 points a decade. In general, the hoagies cite has an agenda and often has articles that are bunk. |
Anonymous
And they renorm the tests every once in awhile so the average is still around 100. |
Anonymous
IQ test are designed to have an average of 100 with (generally) a standard deviation of 15. They renorm these tests periodically to account for increases in average IQ. If you know a ton of kids with IQs above 160, then they're either not using a current IQ test or their parents are exaggerating. |
Anonymous
Good point. The average today is not 130. That would be the average if today's kids were taking the 1900 test, without renorming. |
Anonymous
No you don't--stop lying! |
Anonymous
Actually, an IQ of 150 is exceptional. Statistically, less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the population has an IQ of 150 or above. A person with an IQ that high qualifies as profoundly gifted. Please sign you child up for this fabulous program: http://www.davidsongifted.org/youngscholars/Article/Davidson_Young_Scholars___Qualification_Criteria_384.aspx. And don't allow these jealous heifers on DCUM to tear you down. They wish that they were in your shoes, instead of raising their barely average kids. |
Anonymous
| Why would I be jealous when my children are in the same range? You can tell yourself this is exceptional but go to the private schools that are most often discussed here and it isn't unusual at all. PP asked where she could send her child to school and the answer is anywhere. |
Anonymous
You are jealous, and your kids' IQs are nowhere near 150. Private schools (including the "big three") are NOT full of 150 plus IQ kids...No matter what you have read on DCUM. Statistically, 0.1% of the world's population has an IQ of 145 or above, the level required to be deemed profoundly gifted. That means that one child in about 2,000 has an IQ above 150 on the Stanford-Binet. There are no regular schools around here, or anywhere else, that are full of profoundly gifted kids--it is statistically impossible. I suggest that you look into the Davidson Young Scholars program and educate yourself about what a profoundly gifted child really looks like... and the very real challenges they face in regular schools (public or private). There is a big difference between a very bright, hardworking child, and a child who is profoundly gifted. |