Integration in pre k vs high school

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has a much bigger talent pool to pull from and students who come from all over the world to attend there.

SAT scores are one aspect of a school . I was impressed by how passionate and engaged the students were in the world around them.

Umm, it is still a test in public school. There is no reason the federal city cannot have a test in public school of the same caliber here. As it stands now the DCPS test in schools are not in the same league as TJ by a long stretch.


Please drop the TJ. This is a DC thread. The conversation was why parents aren't sending their kids to Banneker but will send to Wilson.


Actually, I am not impressed with wit either Banneker or Wilson. I am interested in seeing a school in the same league as TJ right here in DC.

If Banneker were in the same league as TJ and all black, I would definitely consider sending my kid there who is not black.


+1 Same here!

Neither Wilson or Banneker impress me and I'm African American. It's not about race for me, but about the program/curriculum quality that a school offers.


Really, what are you and PP doing to make the schools better. Nothing. Be the change you want and stop biatching on the Internet. Also, who cares if either of you are impressed. There are options in DC. If you don't like the options, start your own charter school as other parents before you have; have your child apply to one of the application schools and get involved in making the school better, that is if your child can actually get into one of the schools; go private (again if your child has the smarts to apply and get accepte; or, move to FFX county and hope that your child can compete and get an acceptance letter for TJ.
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Actually, I am not impressed with wit either Banneker or Wilson. I am interested in seeing a school in the same league as TJ right here in DC.

If Banneker were in the same league as TJ and all black, I would definitely consider sending my kid there who is not black.


+1 Same here!

Neither Wilson or Banneker impress me and I'm African American. It's not about race for me, but about the program/curriculum quality that a school offers.

Really, what are you and PP doing to make the schools better. Nothing. Be the change you want and stop biatching on the Internet. Also, who cares if either of you are impressed. There are options in DC. If you don't like the options, start your own charter school as other parents before you have; have your child apply to one of the application schools and get involved in making the school better, that is if your child can actually get into one of the schools; go private (again if your child has the smarts to apply and get accepte; or, move to FFX county and hope that your child can compete and get an acceptance letter for TJ.

I am a tax payer and DCPS has millions upon millions of dollars and tons of "professionals" who should be able to offer a school in the same league as TJ so why should I be the change agent. Or perhaps you are saying DCPS is too incompetent to do so???
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Anonymous wrote:

Actually, I am not impressed with wit either Banneker or Wilson. I am interested in seeing a school in the same league as TJ right here in DC.

If Banneker were in the same league as TJ and all black, I would definitely consider sending my kid there who is not black.


+1 Same here!

Neither Wilson or Banneker impress me and I'm African American. It's not about race for me, but about the program/curriculum quality that a school offers.


Really, what are you and PP doing to make the schools better. Nothing. Be the change you want and stop biatching on the Internet. Also, who cares if either of you are impressed. There are options in DC. If you don't like the options, start your own charter school as other parents before you have; have your child apply to one of the application schools and get involved in making the school better, that is if your child can actually get into one of the schools; go private (again if your child has the smarts to apply and get accepte; or, move to FFX county and hope that your child can compete and get an acceptance letter for TJ.

I am a tax payer and DCPS has millions upon millions of dollars and tons of "professionals" who should be able to offer a school in the same league as TJ so why should I be the change agent. Or perhaps you are saying DCPS is too incompetent to do so???



No, what I am saying is that you and your ilk are deliberately obtuse. You bring TJ up on every DC school forum and it is O-L-D! As mentioned each and every time, DC has application schools. The schools are the sum total of the students who apply and attend. If you want better students (your words) then said students need apply. The courses and curriculum is already provided. TJ is a school of 2000 students with An available population size of 1.8 million people (primarily middle to upper income HHI). DC population is a little over half million with a significant number of people living below the poverty line.
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No, what I am saying is that you and your ilk are deliberately obtuse. You bring TJ up on every DC school forum and it is O-L-D! As mentioned each and every time, DC has application schools. The schools are the sum total of the students who apply and attend. If you want better students (your words) then said students need apply. The courses and curriculum is already provided. TJ is a school of 2000 students with An available population size of 1.8 million people (primarily middle to upper income HHI). DC population is a little over half million with a significant number of people living below the poverty line.


I never brought up better students. I posted about better curricula and schools in the same league as TJ. There is no reason why DC could not offer a school in the same league as TJ even if it were a smaller school.

The DCPS test in schools do not have the same rigorous course offerings that TJ does nor do they have the same rigorous admission criteria.
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No, what I am saying is that you and your ilk are deliberately obtuse. You bring TJ up on every DC school forum and it is O-L-D! As mentioned each and every time, DC has application schools. The schools are the sum total of the students who apply and attend. If you want better students (your words) then said students need apply. The courses and curriculum is already provided. TJ is a school of 2000 students with An available population size of 1.8 million people (primarily middle to upper income HHI). DC population is a little over half million with a significant number of people living below the poverty line.


I never brought up better students. I posted about better curricula and schools in the same league as TJ. There is no reason why DC could not offer a school in the same league as TJ even if it were a smaller school.

The DCPS test in schools do not have the same rigorous course offerings that TJ does nor do they have the same rigorous admission criteria.


The fact that you yourself are so dim-witted makes the rest of us suspect that your genetic offspring would have difficulty gaining admission to a school as rigorous as TJ.

Try this again. The district isn't going to create a school exactly like TJ, with the same curriculum and entrance criteria, because such a school in the district would serve about 70 students. Maybe 50 students. That's a fair guess of how many DC residents could gain admission to TJ next year in Virginia and acquit themselves well.

Do you think it makes sense to build an entire high school with TJ's ridiculously expensive lab equipment for 70 kids? Does it make sense to hire a duplicate set of TJ's current range of faculty to serve 50 kids instead of 2,000 kids?

You see the same thing in practice with the fact that the distinct of Columbia has no medical school, no accredited law school, and no true university. The numbers of potential students just aren't there.

So, grow the fuck up, learn your history, or move with your genius family to fairfax.
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+1000. Thanks, PP. And to those recommending that s/he starts a "charter" to on a par with TJ, get over yourselves. DCPC won't even allow native-speaking kids to be recruited by language immersion charter schools to help raise standards for the rest. No hope of supporting TJ level programs in this city without ES GT and much more serious, race-blind test-in programs. A charter has no hope of competing - the law won't allow it.



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Above aimed at 10:56, not 11:09, you cretin.

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Now the irony of the TJ students versus the application only schools students of the District...many are students at the same college/universities. Go Figure.
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No, what I am saying is that you and your ilk are deliberately obtuse. You bring TJ up on every DC school forum and it is O-L-D! As mentioned each and every time, DC has application schools. The schools are the sum total of the students who apply and attend. If you want better students (your words) then said students need apply. The courses and curriculum is already provided. TJ is a school of 2000 students with An available population size of 1.8 million people (primarily middle to upper income HHI). DC population is a little over half million with a significant number of people living below the poverty line.


I never brought up better students. I posted about better curricula and schools in the same league as TJ. There is no reason why DC could not offer a school in the same league as TJ even if it were a smaller school.

The DCPS test in schools do not have the same rigorous course offerings that TJ does nor do they have the same rigorous admission criteria.


Actually I think you are way underestimating the potential number of students who would excel at a school like TJ right here in the district. You need to get out more.

The fact that you yourself are so dim-witted makes the rest of us suspect that your genetic offspring would have difficulty gaining admission to a school as rigorous as TJ.

Try this again. The district isn't going to create a school exactly like TJ, with the same curriculum and entrance criteria, because such a school in the district would serve about 70 students. Maybe 50 students. That's a fair guess of how many DC residents could gain admission to TJ next year in Virginia and acquit themselves well.

Do you think it makes sense to build an entire high school with TJ's ridiculously expensive lab equipment for 70 kids? Does it make sense to hire a duplicate set of TJ's current range of faculty to serve 50 kids instead of 2,000 kids?

You see the same thing in practice with the fact that the distinct of Columbia has no medical school, no accredited law school, and no true university. The numbers of potential students just aren't there.

So, grow the fuck up, learn your history, or move with your genius family to fairfax.
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Actually I think you are way underestimating the potential number of students who would excel at a school like TJ right here in the district. You need to get out more.
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Anonymous wrote:Actually I think you are way underestimating the potential number of students who would excel at a school like TJ right here in the district. You need to get out more.


I've lived here longer than you have, and I'm out a lot, thanks.

I considered objective, national data points such as national merit commendations, SAT scores, Siemens or Intel science finalists and presidential scholars. There are a whopping 15 winners every year from a public HS in the district, and another few dozen kids who live in DC and attend GDS, Sidwell and sta/Ncs.

The embarrassing SAT score situation at banneker and sww has already been discussed at length, so I won't beat them up further.

Where do you believe these thousands of genius middle schoolers are hiding in the District? Seriously. Put up or shut up. Tell us: where?

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I think you are way underestimating the potential number of students who would excel at a school like TJ right here in the district. You need to get out more.


I've lived here longer than you have, and I'm out a lot, thanks.

I considered objective, national data points such as national merit commendations, SAT scores, Siemens or Intel science finalists and presidential scholars. There are a whopping 15 winners every year from a public HS in the district, and another few dozen kids who live in DC and attend GDS, Sidwell and sta/Ncs.

The embarrassing SAT score situation at banneker and sww has already been discussed at length, so I won't beat them up further.

Where do you believe these thousands of genius middle schoolers are hiding in the District? Seriously. Put up or shut up. Tell us: where?



Such a schools would not need thousands to be successful at all. It could be successful with a few hundred. Then you forget about all of the people moving into DC.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids with real athletic talent and promise are not in high school athletics. Maybe if time allows but for the most part they are doing travel leagues, AAU etc.


My neighbor did both and now plays professionally. AAU is normally in the summer when school is out.


That's nice, but I'm talking about true talented DC athletes. They are not going to Wilson vs Banneker. They are going private to Good Counsel, DeMatha, Bullis, Georgetown Prep, Montrose Christian (Kevin Durant) etc. Heck Friendship Charter probably has more college athletes than Wilson. A poster claimed they won't consider Banneker due to lack of sports I was just pointing out ways to make it work. Be in a safe academic school and have athletics. Only true problem that remains is some white parents don't want their kid to be the only one. Banneker has seen an increase in Asian and Hispanic students lately, maybe that will attract more whites.[/quo

Understood and yes and my neighbr went to Bullis on an athletic scholorship.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually I think you are way underestimating the potential number of students who would excel at a school like TJ right here in the district. You need to get out more.


I've lived here longer than you have, and I'm out a lot, thanks.

I considered objective, national data points such as national merit commendations, SAT scores, Siemens or Intel science finalists and presidential scholars. There are a whopping 15 winners every year from a public HS in the district, and another few dozen kids who live in DC and attend GDS, Sidwell and sta/Ncs.

The embarrassing SAT score situation at banneker and sww has already been discussed at length, so I won't beat them up further.

Where do you believe these thousands of genius middle schoolers are hiding in the District? Seriously. Put up or shut up. Tell us: where?



Such a schools would not need thousands to be successful at all. It could be successful with a few hundred. Then you forget about all of the people moving into DC.


DINKS. Thats who's moving into all these 900 square feet condos.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Kids with real athletic talent and promise are not in high school athletics. Maybe if time allows but for the most part they are doing travel leagues, AAU etc.


My neighbor did both and now plays professionally. AAU is normally in the summer when school is out.


That's nice, but I'm talking about true talented DC athletes. They are not going to Wilson vs Banneker. They are going private to Good Counsel, DeMatha, Bullis, Georgetown Prep, Montrose Christian (Kevin Durant) etc. Heck Friendship Charter probably has more college athletes than Wilson. A poster claimed they won't consider Banneker due to lack of sports I was just pointing out ways to make it work. Be in a safe academic school and have athletics. Only true problem that remains is some white parents don't want their kid to be the only one. Banneker has seen an increase in Asian and Hispanic students lately, maybe that will attract more whites.[/quo

Understood and yes and my neighbr went to Bullis on an athletic scholorship.


Which sport?
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