Pullouts in Kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering if the pullouts in K were just for Young Scholars programs or for non Title 1 schools as well. Just seems to be another service that isn't distributed equally in Fairfax County since DC's k program never had pullouts to 1st grade.

How do you know that kids weren't getting pulled out in your child's school?

Kids get pulled out all the time for various reasons: testing, resource specialists, reading specialists, aspergers, esol, aap, etc. I imagine that the kids in the younger grades don't even think about why so and so is getting pulled out because it is so common and the teachers don't make a big deal about kids getting pulled out for any reason.

I posted earlier that my kid was pulled out starting 2nd semester in kindergarten for math, and continued in 1st grade.

In kindergarten, it was a very small group of kids. Maybe 3 or so from the class? We didn't receive a letter, but the teacher mentioned it in a conference. It was very low key. My child didn't think anything of it since so many kids get pulled out for different things. My kid also did not come home announcing "Hey mom, I get to go with the AART because I am smart". I found out by something he mentioned casually, which caused me to ask more questions, which caused me to ask at the conference.

In second, it is still a small group of kids, but a bit larger. My kid realized about 1/3 of the way through the year that the pullout was "AAP" because another child with and older sibling in AAP told all the pull out kids that is what they were doing.

So it is entirely possible that your child's school is doing pull out. If it your kid, she might not even be aware that is what is going on. If your kid is not getting pulled out, then she probably doesn't have a clue that other kids are for AAP.

Should say in first.

I am sure that by second grade all the kids will know why the pull outs are happening, if only because their parents talk about it around them.

[Anonymous]

23:24 During Parent Teacher conference I was told that the AAP teacher does not do pullouts for the high achieving children, but has provided some worksheets each kindergarten teacher will use in the classroom - which amounted to barely anything. The special ed kids did get pullouts. DC's class had 0 ESOL students so there were no pullouts for this either. In 1st grade, the AAP teacher and reading specialist started doing pullouts. Is that enough reason for you? DC is at a small school and we are aware of the pullouts in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering if the pullouts in K were just for Young Scholars programs or for non Title 1 schools as well. Just seems to be another service that isn't distributed equally in Fairfax County since DC's k program never had pullouts to 1st grade.

How do you know that kids weren't getting pulled out in your child's school?

Kids get pulled out all the time for various reasons: testing, resource specialists, reading specialists, aspergers, esol, aap, etc. I imagine that the kids in the younger grades don't even think about why so and so is getting pulled out because it is so common and the teachers don't make a big deal about kids getting pulled out for any reason.

I posted earlier that my kid was pulled out starting 2nd semester in kindergarten for math, and continued in 1st grade.

In kindergarten, it was a very small group of kids. Maybe 3 or so from the class? We didn't receive a letter, but the teacher mentioned it in a conference. It was very low key. My child didn't think anything of it since so many kids get pulled out for different things. My kid also did not come home announcing "Hey mom, I get to go with the AART because I am smart". I found out by something he mentioned casually, which caused me to ask more questions, which caused me to ask at the conference.

In second, it is still a small group of kids, but a bit larger. My kid realized about 1/3 of the way through the year that the pullout was "AAP" because another child with and older sibling in AAP told all the pull out kids that is what they were doing.

So it is entirely possible that your child's school is doing pull out. If it your kid, she might not even be aware that is what is going on. If your kid is not getting pulled out, then she probably doesn't have a clue that other kids are for AAP.

Not the PP but I asked our AART about pullouts and she said she doesn't start doing them until third grade. For K-2 there are no pullouts; the AART comes into the classroom once a month for K-2. She said that she can't do pullouts any sooner because she is at our school only two days a week. We are an AAP center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:23:24 During Parent Teacher conference I was told that the AAP teacher does not do pullouts for the high achieving children, but has provided some worksheets each kindergarten teacher will use in the classroom - which amounted to barely anything. The special ed kids did get pullouts. DC's class had 0 ESOL students so there were no pullouts for this either. In 1st grade, the AAP teacher and reading specialist started doing pullouts. Is that enough reason for you? DC is at a small school and we are aware of the pullouts in the classroom.

Perhaps your school has enough higher performing kids that they are able to accelerate most of the class at the same level, rather than doing pull outs.

I can see that happening in some of the higher performing areas where nearly all the kids start K ready to read and doing math. No need for pull outs if "all" the kids are smart and prepared to learn.

Does your school send many kids to AAP? If so, I can see why the school would not do pull outs. Why start that pissing contest in kindergarten if there is no real need?

[Anonymous]

10:42 About 1/4 of the kids go on to AAP. Not sure why that means no pullouts in K.

[Anonymous]

It is school specific. Our DD was and is exceptional. We have talked about Mary Baldwin for her in a fee years but she retorts that she just wants to be a normal kid and do normal things, like go to prom. Our school never identified her in k, they told me that by 3rd grade her peers would be on her level. I advised if that happens that the school would have grossly impacted by DD educationally. Thankfully, our AART was kind of on top it, but she's only part time and I was too uninformed about aap services, that she pulled DD out in 1 and 2. She is in aap and has yet to be actually challenged, but we are thankful that she has great friends who are somewhat like her, and more importantly, that she is happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10:42 About 1/4 of the kids go on to AAP. Not sure why that means no pullouts in K.

If 1/4 of the kids go to AAP (as opposed to 8-12 kids) then likely the classes as a whole are accelerated and also likely they have a number of kids in each class sufficient to work with on more advanced reading and math without requiring pull outs.