Freedom Hill - Vienna

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever op, hope your kids end up at Cunningham park, and if you run your mouth too much, that's exactly what will happen.

Cunningham Park is all Thoreau and mostly Madison. That would be better than being at a school where the other 90% go to Kilmer and Marshall. Which part of that did you fail to comprehend?

[Anonymous]

That it is only about you.

[Anonymous]

And what good is served by holding a small number of families hostage? Some Freedom Hill families are still hoping the rest of the low-income apartments over near Marshall will get moved to Lemon Road, and think that's less likely if we move to Vienna first. That's what one Kilmer/Marshall parent told me. Forgive me if I didn't find that very compelling.

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Anonymous wrote:Tysons is definitely the game changer. Pregnant now, so public school is far away. I live off electric, zoned for stenwood, Kilmer, and Marshall. When we bought the house six years ago, we knew school boundaries would be up in the air and we are fine with that.

I can't help but think its really about race and ses for op.

Stenwood is mostly Kilmer and all Marshall, so you're not really in a similar position. And I wouldn't be so quick to ascribe racial motivations to the parents requesting the change to eliminate the wacky split feeder. If anyone is focused on race and SES, it's other Freedom Hill parents.

Definitely this. It's the Freedom Hill PTA President who's complaining that the school test scores will decrease and they will lots lots of financial contributions if they lose the Town children. I find that ridiculous and insulting to the non-Town children who attend the school. And don't forget, they'll lose their Box Tops coordinator, too, if the Town children leave.

I am not surprised, when they forced the redistricting of some of their students to Lemon road last year, they wanted a significant portion of their at risk chlidren to go. That woud have made Lemon Road a Title I school. Inthe end, I think the compromise was good. Half the apartment coplex and half the townhouse complex - a good mix of students that was similar to what was already at Lemon Road. If the AAP numbers don't pan out, I would expect Lemon Road taking the rest of both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK - that last personally identifies someone...STOP IT!

I wrote that post and I stand by it. These assertions were made at School Board meetings which is hardly a private setting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tysons is definitely the game changer. Pregnant now, so public school is far away. I live off electric, zoned for stenwood, Kilmer, and Marshall. When we bought the house six years ago, we knew school boundaries would be up in the air and we are fine with that.

I can't help but think its really about race and ses for op.

Stenwood is mostly Kilmer and all Marshall, so you're not really in a similar position. And I wouldn't be so quick to ascribe racial motivations to the parents requesting the change to eliminate the wacky split feeder. If anyone is focused on race and SES, it's other Freedom Hill parents.

Definitely this. It's the Freedom Hill PTA President who's complaining that the school test scores will decrease and they will lots lots of financial contributions if they lose the Town children. I find that ridiculous and insulting to the non-Town children who attend the school. And don't forget, they'll lose their Box Tops coordinator, too, if the Town children leave.

I am not surprised, when they forced the redistricting of some of their students to Lemon road last year, they wanted a significant portion of their at risk chlidren to go. That woud have made Lemon Road a Title I school. Inthe end, I think the compromise was good. Half the apartment coplex and half the townhouse complex - a good mix of students that was similar to what was already at Lemon Road. If the AAP numbers don't pan out, I would expect Lemon Road taking the rest of both.

They should move part of Shrevewood to Lemon Road if there is still capacity. It is expected to be more overcrowded than Freedom Hill.

[Anonymous]

Why not move the Kilmer boundary over to pick the rest of the Freedom Hill kids...then it would a 100% feeder and all the kids can be with their friends from ES into MS. Can't be more than 6-8 kids/year net once AAP students are accounted for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not move the Kilmer boundary over to pick the rest of the Freedom Hill kids...then it would a 100% feeder and all the kids can be with their friends from ES into MS. Can't be more than 6-8 kids/year net once AAP students are accounted for.

With Kilmer projected to be more crowded than any other middle school in the county, at 135% of capacity in a few years, that would not fly. FCPS would need to move the Cooper AAP kids out of Kilmer before ever considering that.

One more reason just to move our kids to Vienna so they can attend school with other children heading to Thoreau and Madison. It is flattering to know people want our kids at their school, but you're making this way more complicated than it needs to be.

[Anonymous]

The 6-8 kids is a fraction of 1% of Kilmer's enrollment and is rounding error as far as the FCPS demographic projections are concerned. Net, when the kids get there, it won't make any difference. This makes just as much sense as moving kids to a school that is just at it's capacity number. (There's those squeezy ballons again).

This really does call for the comprehensive boundary study that someone earlier mentioned for both the Kilmer and Thoreau pyramids and fix the whole thing once and for all.

[Anonymous]

kilmer is a 10 rating so it is the best http://www.greatschools.org/virginia/vienna/525-Kilmer-Middle-School/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 6-8 kids is a fraction of 1% of Kilmer's enrollment and is rounding error as far as the FCPS demographic projections are concerned. Net, when the kids get there, it won't make any difference. This makes just as much sense as moving kids to a school that is just at it's capacity number. (There's those squeezy ballons again).

This really does call for the comprehensive boundary study that someone earlier mentioned for both the Kilmer and Thoreau pyramids and fix the whole thing once and for all.

There can't be any boundary study that "fixes the whole thing once and for all" until FCPS decides whether it's going to open AAP centers at Cooper and Thoreau. Future growth in Tysons may require other changes. Until then, the simplest thing to do is to move the Town of Vienna students to Vienna ES and stop requiring us to jump through hoops so that we can send them where they ought to go.

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I think there are others in Town that believe differently

[Anonymous]

Going back to the decision letter someone posted...you can send your kids to the school you want, Vienna ES. What's the big deal? You received something many people in the County would love to have -- adminstrative pupil placement without the hoops to jump through to substantiate the request.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there are others in Town that believe differently

Not many.

[Anonymous]

More than you think and enough that Mr. Kacur's letter outlines a decision that took into account the needs of all parties...not just one.