$899k for a rambler.

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No one wants to live in PG with the crime, corruption, and generally blah environment.

I'll give you corruption at the county level (although I think the new guy might be headed in the right direction), but not every single part of PG is a crime riddled hellhole. There are some very nice communities close in that most won't look at just because they are in PG.

DC is just as bad in parts, let's be honest. I'm surprised their mayor hasn't been driven from office yet - and come on, Marion Berry? Enough said...

Again, choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I would definitely fire realtor "Sharon Chamberlin" after she listed my neighborhood name as "Golf Club Manners". WTF?

Thank you - I couldn't believe my eyes! And this woman probably makes more money than me. *headdesk*

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it bothers people quite so much that other people are willing to spend more than they would on houses in Arlington, unless they are being outbid for the same properties. Many of us in other areas are also homeowners and can luxuriate in our own phantom equity for now.

Arlington has captured a certain segment of the market that doesn't want to live further out. It includes, for example, people who can't tolerate the idea of a commute that's more than X miles or Y minutes, and people who moved into Arlington when they were younger, liked it, and decided to stick around.

Its location isn't going to change, but its other advantages aren't necessarily quite so entrenched. If car traffic diminishes in the region, or mass transit expands to other areas, Arlington's proximity to DC becomes less of an advantage. If other jurisdictions build more housing that appeals to younger residents, they'll be more likely to stay in those places, rather than seek alternatives like Arlington. But until these things happen, Arlington appeals to a lot of people, so you get high prices. Personally, it's not where I'd want to live, but I don't dictate the market (as much as I might like to).

There's also the fact that half the area bordering DC is PG County, and that's a big "no go" zone for most people. If PG County ever fixed its issues and became attractive to people, I wonder what would happen to the prices in these areas?

see, another option - live in PG for 1/3 the price and send your kid private.

No one wants to live in PG with the crime, corruption, and generally blah environment.

Here it is. I live in PG county and I love it. My house is beautiful (my dream house/forever home), my husband's commute is easy, my neighbors are sweethearts, our neighborhood school is good, we have no crimes in our area, and my house cost less than 350k. I can stay at home with my kids if I feel like it. To each his own I suppose!

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Here it is. I live in PG county and I love it. My house is beautiful (my dream house/forever home), my husband's commute is easy, my neighbors are sweethearts, our neighborhood school is good, we have no crimes in our area, and my house cost less than 350k. I can stay at home with my kids if I feel like it. To each his own I suppose!

What community are you in? Just out of curiosity...

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Anonymous wrote:It's overpriced, but then again, someone will buy it. It's North Arlington after all! I would not, it has no appeal at all. Looks like the sellers have moved out and are trying to get as much as they can for their little home!

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Lots of ramblers in Arlington sell for a lot more

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Here it is. I live in PG county and I love it. My house is beautiful (my dream house/forever home), my husband's commute is easy, my neighbors are sweethearts, our neighborhood school is good, we have no crimes in our area, and my house cost less than 350k. I can stay at home with my kids if I feel like it. To each his own I suppose!

What community are you in? Just out of curiosity...

I live in the same subdivision as this house, in seabrook: http://www.redfin.com/MD/Lanham/10212-Everley-Ter-20706/home/10874115

I really, really like it. I made the effort to get to know my neighbors, and they are all down-to-earth, nice people. The neighborhood kids are always playing outside together in a big group, like when I was a kid! Most of the distressed homes have been sold, with a few stragglers like above (this is a big problem in PG). I really worried about living in PG County and I lost a lot of sleep over it, but now I feel like it was all completely unwarranted. To the east and north are Bowie and Glenn Dale, which are even "better" areas, crime and school wise.

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Anonymous wrote:It's overpriced, but then again, someone will buy it. It's North Arlington after all! I would not, it has no appeal at all. Looks like the sellers have moved out and are trying to get as much as they can for their little home!

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Lots of ramblers in Arlington sell for a lot more

Examples? Maybe you mean luxury ranch homes, which is a big difference. I saw in Mclean, which was a fixer upper, needing lots of work, for over 1 mil. But it was clearly a luxury home, high ceilings, sprawling floorplan and that was recession special.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who caught that it says "Manners" in the subdivision name?

All I can think is "Thank goodness I don't need to live in Arlington"

My house (about the same size and half the price) was being used as a 5 BR when we saw it - because they had turned the den/family room into a bedroom for one of their 4 adult children who had been living at home.

Yeah, I don't see how these prices are sustainable, really. But someone will pay it ...

What is the alternative for this area? An older brick colonial in that price range and similar or slightly more sq.ft would cost over a million easily. New construction starts at 1.5 mil. Ramblers are not bad, at least most living sleeping places are on one floor, less stairs and some people prefer it this way.

I wasn't saying there was an alternative. If you insist on Arlington, this is Arlington prices. Not a shocker, really. As I said, glad I don't need to live in Arlington - I'm 20 miles out in a neighborhood in Fairfax that cost half as much. Neither of us work downtown. Neither of us make big bucks. We're fine where we are - glad we didn't have to pay 2X the price to live closer in with similar schools.

Paying these prices is a choice, though - there are others. You just may not like them.

In this case, you can contribute nothing to the discussion, you are not in position to understand. People who must be close to DC and who can afford to pay this much have choices and can either choose short commute, or a bigger, newer subdivision house in distant burbs. for you, there is no need to choose, you don't need to be close to DC, you choose from different areas altogether. It's like me going to Manhattan and being shocked at prices there, if I don't need to be there, what's the point.

whoa, whoa - I lived in Arlington at one point in my life and worked downtown, too. I'm not allowed to have an opinion at all just because I no longer live there and can't afford a near $1M house? That's some elitist bullshit if I ever heard it.

We all have to make choices based on commute, price range and other needs/preferences.

Oh, poor you with your large budget and "limited choices" because you just MUST live in one of the most expensive close-in burbs. Even you said people with that budget might choose larger, newer subdivisions in the burbs. There you go - choices.

Yes, I absolutely demand to be living in one of the most desirable inner burbs for the price I am willing to pay, because I want to be close to the city, and I don't care about having extra 3000 sq.ft of space, what's it to you? To me location/schools is the most important criteria and places like this tend to hold their value better in downturn as has been demonstrated already during the recession. Prices in already expensive desirable areas in NWDC and inner burbs didn't go down as much as in more distant subdivisions, and have shot up higher during this recent uptick in the market, it's a fact. It is what's important to me, not an elitist and not rich, just value certain locations.

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Here it is. I live in PG county and I love it. My house is beautiful (my dream house/forever home), my husband's commute is easy, my neighbors are sweethearts, our neighborhood school is good, we have no crimes in our area, and my house cost less than 350k. I can stay at home with my kids if I feel like it. To each his own I suppose!

What community are you in? Just out of curiosity...

I live in the same subdivision as this house, in seabrook: http://www.redfin.com/MD/Lanham/10212-Everley-Ter-20706/home/10874115

I really, really like it. I made the effort to get to know my neighbors, and they are all down-to-earth, nice people. The neighborhood kids are always playing outside together in a big group, like when I was a kid! Most of the distressed homes have been sold, with a few stragglers like above (this is a big problem in PG). I really worried about living in PG County and I lost a lot of sleep over it, but now I feel like it was all completely unwarranted. To the east and north are Bowie and Glenn Dale, which are even "better" areas, crime and school wise.

FWIW, my dad just started working in Hopewell, VA. He had heard all these awful stories about how "bad" the area supposedly is. He's working with HS kids. He said he's found the kids are polite and sweet and he's had no troubles at all. Granted, he worked in a somewhat rural area of MD for 30+ years, but he was surprised at how NOT bad the area is based on reputation.

Take everything you hear with a massive helping of salt, right?

Your house is newer and nicer than mine, but we love our NoVA hood that sounds similar in character. Good people, good kids, middle class suburbia at its best, really. But some people refuse to even consider it because some of the houses have chain link fences and some people have RVs in their driveways. Their loss, really.

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Commuting sucks the life out of you, but so does a huge mortgage payment.

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Anonymous wrote:what if other major job metro accessible job hubs as big as DC farther out popup? What will happen?

Nothing, there are always going to be people wanting to live in or near the city, there are going to still be jobs in the city and there are also people, who don't need to commute and can choose to live wherever they want and like the city itself. Inner burbs like Arlington/Mclean/FC are well placed in the middle between DC and Tysons. It won't be a sacrifice for them, it will just increase the desirability of these central areas, by creating more employment and places of interest in short driving distance from them. Further out burbs? there is already Dullas corridor and people who work there logically should be living nearby in that area as they do, there is no magic here. They are not affecting or going to affect pricing in DC and near burbs.

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I don't care about PG county, I actually want to be in VA in between DC and Tysons for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who caught that it says "Manners" in the subdivision name?

All I can think is "Thank goodness I don't need to live in Arlington"

My house (about the same size and half the price) was being used as a 5 BR when we saw it - because they had turned the den/family room into a bedroom for one of their 4 adult children who had been living at home.

Yeah, I don't see how these prices are sustainable, really. But someone will pay it ...

What is the alternative for this area? An older brick colonial in that price range and similar or slightly more sq.ft would cost over a million easily. New construction starts at 1.5 mil. Ramblers are not bad, at least most living sleeping places are on one floor, less stairs and some people prefer it this way.

I wasn't saying there was an alternative. If you insist on Arlington, this is Arlington prices. Not a shocker, really. As I said, glad I don't need to live in Arlington - I'm 20 miles out in a neighborhood in Fairfax that cost half as much. Neither of us work downtown. Neither of us make big bucks. We're fine where we are - glad we didn't have to pay 2X the price to live closer in with similar schools.

Paying these prices is a choice, though - there are others. You just may not like them.

In this case, you can contribute nothing to the discussion, you are not in position to understand. People who must be close to DC and who can afford to pay this much have choices and can either choose short commute, or a bigger, newer subdivision house in distant burbs. for you, there is no need to choose, you don't need to be close to DC, you choose from different areas altogether. It's like me going to Manhattan and being shocked at prices there, if I don't need to be there, what's the point.

whoa, whoa - I lived in Arlington at one point in my life and worked downtown, too. I'm not allowed to have an opinion at all just because I no longer live there and can't afford a near $1M house? That's some elitist bullshit if I ever heard it.

We all have to make choices based on commute, price range and other needs/preferences.

Oh, poor you with your large budget and "limited choices" because you just MUST live in one of the most expensive close-in burbs. Even you said people with that budget might choose larger, newer subdivisions in the burbs. There you go - choices.

Yes, I absolutely demand to be living in one of the most desirable inner burbs for the price I am willing to pay, because I want to be close to the city, and I don't care about having extra 3000 sq.ft of space, what's it to you? To me location/schools is the most important criteria and places like this tend to hold their value better in downturn as has been demonstrated already during the recession. Prices in already expensive desirable areas in NWDC and inner burbs didn't go down as much as in more distant subdivisions, and have shot up higher during this recent uptick in the market, it's a fact. It is what's important to me, not an elitist and not rich, just value certain locations.

You know, I wasn't trying to start a fight with you until you basically said my opinion didn't count for anything. I think the price is high, but it doesn't seem incredibly out of line for Arlington. As I said, I lived in Arlington for several years. We moved 10 years ago because we couldn't afford to own even a 2 BR condo at the time. We didn't move for 3000 sf - our current house is about the same size as this listing.

Did the more distant burbs crash harder? Yes. No one is arguing this. But prices are going up all around. Even my neighborhood is seeing bidding wars and escalation clauses.

We live where we live because it is what we could afford with what we needed/wanted in a location that works best for where WE work. You make the EXACT same decisions. But to act like you're the only one who makes decisions based on commute/quality of life and that the rest of us are just space-hungry and don't give a crap about these things is ludicrous. Stop acting so high and mighty - be happy you have a large budget (no matter how little space that gets you in YOUR desired location) giving you an even greater choice that a vast majority of folks can never have and stop whining.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who caught that it says "Manners" in the subdivision name?

All I can think is "Thank goodness I don't need to live in Arlington"

My house (about the same size and half the price) was being used as a 5 BR when we saw it - because they had turned the den/family room into a bedroom for one of their 4 adult children who had been living at home.

Yeah, I don't see how these prices are sustainable, really. But someone will pay it ...

What is the alternative for this area? An older brick colonial in that price range and similar or slightly more sq.ft would cost over a million easily. New construction starts at 1.5 mil. Ramblers are not bad, at least most living sleeping places are on one floor, less stairs and some people prefer it this way.

I wasn't saying there was an alternative. If you insist on Arlington, this is Arlington prices. Not a shocker, really. As I said, glad I don't need to live in Arlington - I'm 20 miles out in a neighborhood in Fairfax that cost half as much. Neither of us work downtown. Neither of us make big bucks. We're fine where we are - glad we didn't have to pay 2X the price to live closer in with similar schools.

Paying these prices is a choice, though - there are others. You just may not like them.

In this case, you can contribute nothing to the discussion, you are not in position to understand. People who must be close to DC and who can afford to pay this much have choices and can either choose short commute, or a bigger, newer subdivision house in distant burbs. for you, there is no need to choose, you don't need to be close to DC, you choose from different areas altogether. It's like me going to Manhattan and being shocked at prices there, if I don't need to be there, what's the point.

whoa, whoa - I lived in Arlington at one point in my life and worked downtown, too. I'm not allowed to have an opinion at all just because I no longer live there and can't afford a near $1M house? That's some elitist bullshit if I ever heard it.

We all have to make choices based on commute, price range and other needs/preferences.

Oh, poor you with your large budget and "limited choices" because you just MUST live in one of the most expensive close-in burbs. Even you said people with that budget might choose larger, newer subdivisions in the burbs. There you go - choices.

Yes, I absolutely demand to be living in one of the most desirable inner burbs for the price I am willing to pay, because I want to be close to the city, and I don't care about having extra 3000 sq.ft of space, what's it to you? To me location/schools is the most important criteria and places like this tend to hold their value better in downturn as has been demonstrated already during the recession. Prices in already expensive desirable areas in NWDC and inner burbs didn't go down as much as in more distant subdivisions, and have shot up higher during this recent uptick in the market, it's a fact. It is what's important to me, not an elitist and not rich, just value certain locations.

You know, I wasn't trying to start a fight with you until you basically said my opinion didn't count for anything. I think the price is high, but it doesn't seem incredibly out of line for Arlington. As I said, I lived in Arlington for several years. We moved 10 years ago because we couldn't afford to own even a 2 BR condo at the time. We didn't move for 3000 sf - our current house is about the same size as this listing.

Did the more distant burbs crash harder? Yes. No one is arguing this. But prices are going up all around. Even my neighborhood is seeing bidding wars and escalation clauses.

We live where we live because it is what we could afford with what we needed/wanted in a location that works best for where WE work. You make the EXACT same decisions. But to act like you're the only one who makes decisions based on commute/quality of life and that the rest of us are just space-hungry and don't give a crap about these things is ludicrous. Stop acting so high and mighty - be happy you have a large budget (no matter how little space that gets you in YOUR desired location) giving you an even greater choice that a vast majority of folks can never have and stop whining.

You seem to be bringing up prices in other areas that are not relevant to discussion, this particular listing is in a particular area, and pricing of this house is discussed in relation to what is in that particular area. It makes no sense to compare apples to oranges like you do. In your case given your work location, you got the best of both worlds, a short commute and inexpensive housing, good for you and you seem to be pretty smug about it too in your very first post almost mocking those paying crazy Arl prices.

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This is pretty typical for the location. Seems crazy if you're not from the DC area. There is so much money in this area which makes these prices sustainable.