List of businesses/restaurants that support (or are at least neutral on) Obamacare?

[Anonymous]

But you forget that those companies will stuggle to fill positions.
The pool of desperados willing to do any shitty job for basic pay is not so large.

To stay in business you still have to make money. If you cannot because of hiring costs, maybe you should not be in business. Most of the companies that are opposed to this are franchises that are profitable and just think they can keep their employee costs even lower by doing with part time staff. Part time staff costs less, but the staff is temporary and there is always a learning curve and as the turnover is high, quality of work is low. In the end you loose customers.

[Anonymous]

Businesses SHOULD provide health care. It's the right thing to do. Whether or not it's the law.

Obvious advantage to employers - they will have healthier employees! fewer sick days being used and issues with mental illness in the workplace, workers will be overall healthier and thus more energetic and productive. And less maternity leave if contraception is covered. Oh, and it will save lives.

People will stay with the same job longer. even though they will be able to get health care somewhere else, they will likely see changes in doctors/hospitals, etc. if they switch jobs. People like to keep their doctors.

A business should be able to work around the mandate by hiring employees who are under 26 as they might choose to stay on their parents' plan. In fact, young people can get an advantage when interviewing if they make it clear that they are not interested in health care coverage at this time because they are comfortable with the plan they are already on. Actually, not just the under 26 crowd, but anyone can get an edge on the competition if they don't need coverage (for instance, being on your spouse's plan).

Businesses can try to get around it by cutting people back to part-time, but how often will that work? If I have the option to either work 36 hours per week at Papa John's with NO health care, or work 40 hours per week at Pizza Hut* WITH health care, which option do you think I'd choose? And Pizza Hut can promote the fact that they have so many full time employees.
*I actually have no idea where Pizza Hut stands on the issue. Just an example.

[Anonymous]

http://www.washingtonpost.com?wpmk=MK0000205

Those evil small business owners, how dare they do what they have to to survive.

[Anonymous]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/pay-the-penalty-or-insure-your-staff-small-business-owners-face-tough-health-care-decision/2012/11/29/c080b832-3a83-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_story.html

Here's a better link.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/pay-the-penalty-or-insure-your-staff-small-business-owners-face-tough-health-care-decision/2012/11/29/c080b832-3a83-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_story.html

Here's a better link.

That article starts out with an employer who already insures her employees. Now because of the penalty, she's trying to decide whether she's better off paying the $2000 penalty or buying the insurance she already pays for. WTH? Today she could choose between insuring her staff and paying nothing. And she still buys insurance.

Sorry I want to support small business. But that woman is clearly confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Businesses SHOULD provide health care. It's the right thing to do. Whether or not it's the law.

Obvious advantage to employers - they will have healthier employees! fewer sick days being used and issues with mental illness in the workplace, workers will be overall healthier and thus more energetic and productive. And less maternity leave if contraception is covered. Oh, and it will save lives.

People will stay with the same job longer. even though they will be able to get health care somewhere else, they will likely see changes in doctors/hospitals, etc. if they switch jobs. People like to keep their doctors.

A business should be able to work around the mandate by hiring employees who are under 26 as they might choose to stay on their parents' plan. In fact, young people can get an advantage when interviewing if they make it clear that they are not interested in health care coverage at this time because they are comfortable with the plan they are already on. Actually, not just the under 26 crowd, but anyone can get an edge on the competition if they don't need coverage (for instance, being on your spouse's plan).

Businesses can try to get around it by cutting people back to part-time, but how often will that work? If I have the option to either work 36 hours per week at Papa John's with NO health care, or work 40 hours per week at Pizza Hut* WITH health care, which option do you think I'd choose? And Pizza Hut can promote the fact that they have so many full time employees.
*I actually have no idea where Pizza Hut stands on the issue. Just an example.

actually you make the strong case for single payer. businesses should be in the business of their chosen field. Not in the business of healthcare. I don't understand why large/massive and small businesses shouldn't want single payer as it takes away that huge cost burden, annoyance, and confusion away from them. Business providing health care is NOT the right thing to do. SOCIETY providing health care for the benefit for us all is the right thing to do because it is a public good. A healthy society is a stronger and more stable one as a whole.

When you compare the health care costs of say GM or Ford per employee vs. german car companies in germany, gm and ford have higher costs that they need to pass on to their consumers. That cost could be better utilized in making their products cheaper or putting that money into making their products better.

We need to separate health care from employment. It is terrible for the labor market as it causes massive distortions due to employees staying in a sub-optimal position due to health care reasons and it puts a burden on our businesses when foreign companies do not face the same issues.

America is such an ass-backward place.

[Anonymous]

Agree health insurance should be seperate from employer. I wish I had a real choice. No interst in barrycare

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
A business should be able to work around the mandate by hiring employees who are under 26 as they might choose to stay on their parents' plan. In fact, young people can get an advantage when interviewing if they make it clear that they are not interested in health care coverage at this time because they are comfortable with the plan they are already on. Actually, not just the under 26 crowd, but anyone can get an edge on the competition if they don't need coverage (for instance, being on your spouse's plan).

Businesses can try to get around it by cutting people back to part-time, but how often will that work? If I have the option to either work 36 hours per week at Papa John's with NO health care, or work 40 hours per week at Pizza Hut* WITH health care, which option do you think I'd choose? And Pizza Hut can promote the fact that they have so many full time employees.
*I actually have no idea where Pizza Hut stands on the issue. Just an example.

but you are not allowed to ask age when hiring. Asking about wishes to stay on parents plan is also illegal
Pizza hut is not a struggling business about to go bankrupt. Large corporations like things the way they are.
Pay minimum wage, workers get their health insurance from the tax man, and their subsidised housing and subsidised health care and food stamps

[Anonymous]

I think the problem in this country is fundamentally that the IDEA of slavery has never really gone away. Sure, we fought a long bloody war to formally abolish it (I know, I know, the war was REALLY about states rights, but nonetheless....). But the desire to use workers, to treat them as fodder for your enterprise, is older than the Pyramids. The early part of the 20th century, with it's child labors, 16 hour work days, deplorable conditions - it's easy to see that given their druthers, employers will use and abuse their workers to whatever extent they can get away with. Robber Barons are still alive and well, now they are just the bailed out bankers on Wall Street or the millionaire owners of Walmart or Papa Johns.

I think it's disingenuous to suggest that "American was built on capitalism and free markets" when what America was really built on is the economic rape of the working class. I think that we really do need laws and regulations that level the playing field between business and workers. I think we are going to have to force businesses to step and and stay stepped up when it comes to taxes and benefits. I think that just like slave owners who predicted the end of the economic world if we ended slavery, just like big business who predicted that overtime and OSHA laws would end enterprise as we know it, that healthcare is just the latest in a series of bare minimums that employers will have to contribute to. and well all survive - as long as we stop the off-shoring of our jobs.

[Anonymous]

Pp is crazy not like a fox

[Anonymous]

The real numbers on the consequences of publicly dissing Obamacare.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/papa-johns-obamacare_n_2233525.html?utm_hp_ref=business&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D241062

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real numbers on the consequences of publicly dissing Obamacare

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/papa-johns-obamacare_n_2233525.html?utm_hp_ref=business&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D241062

I don't typically go to the HuffPo business section to get my updates on the markets....but in all seriousness, the article loses a bit of credibilty if they don't even publish the name of the author. IMO

Secondly, regarding Papa Johns, FedEx Field surely isn't the only sports arena they're provider to, good luck waiting to see them lose those contracts.

I also don't think Peyton Manning is losing any sleep over his investment.

Chic Fil-A for lunch, yum yum!!!

[Anonymous]

More consequences for bitching about Obamacare.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/12/05/1285261/darden-olive-gardeb-obamacare/?mobile=nc