Is this what you want from a leader?

[Anonymous]

Great editorial about how many of us are feeling right now about the President.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/14/president-obama-stop-blaming-victim-for-mideast-violence/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP. I don't have a view if Egypt should or should not be our ally. I do think our president should be able to say plainly which is the case. H[b]ave we not learned from Jimmy Carter that diplomacy does not work in the middle east?
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I hear all the time what a great orator Obama is, how smart he is. He can't even explain something as simple as "Egypt is not our ally" in plain language. Romney said what he meant about the Middle East situation, and people think that's horrible.

Mushy language is good. Speaking plainly is not being diplomatic. I get it now.

So I guess the Camp David accords negotiated by President Carter which have ensured peace between Egypt and Israel since 1978 are a fluke right? WTF wake up.

[Anonymous]

You are an idiot if you think this is the same Egypt!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:The real world is complex and nuanced. The other day Mittens made a very clear statement about Russia and nearly set off a diplomatic crisis.

His name is Mitt. I'm this was just an error on your part. Surely a moderator would wish to appear as one of the more mature folks in the group, instead of one of the less mature ones.

Actually, his name is Willard....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great editorial about how many of us are feeling right now about the President.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/14/president-obama-stop-blaming-victim-for-mideast-violence/

Yes and some of you think it's Obama's job to opine on the validity of Islam. Obama's job is to protect our national interest not to be wackadoodle pundit on chief.

[Anonymous]

Regarding that stupid article, "implicit sympathy" that is admitting that they are reaching.

Does Tim McVeigh represent all republicans? Should we have cut off aid to Oklahoma? We know Tim McVeigh would not vote for Obama if he were alive today. How many secret cell militias do we have lurking around in the U.S. they are all terrorists in their own right and republican at that. The salifest in egypt are a small group and don't even live in Cairo. They went specifically to cause trouble and other locals were paid to riot. they don't represent progressive Egyptians. And the person who made the film is a Coptic Egyptian and knew exactly what he was doing..

And what did Bush do about 9/11 oh yeah, Iraq. Which accomplished what?. Was that not done in the name of peacekeeping?
Obama accomplished the same thing for Libya without a major war. It is a great loss to lose Ambassador Stevens but he first and foremost wanted to rebuild Libya and knew the risk. he would understand the difference between al kaeda and the Lybya people, What happened in Libya was done by al kaeda in retaliation for us killing one of their leaders. Completely separate from Libya as a country. Al kaeda is occupying parts of Libya.

No way Mitt has any better understanding of what the hell is going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regarding that stupid article, "implicit sympathy" that is admitting that they are reaching.

Does Tim McVeigh represent all republicans? Should we have cut off aid to Oklahoma? We know Tim McVeigh would not vote for Obama if he were alive today. How many secret cell militias do we have lurking around in the U.S. they are all terrorists in their own right and republican at that. The salifest in egypt are a small group and don't even live in Cairo. They went specifically to cause trouble and other locals were paid to riot. they don't represent progressive Egyptians. And the person who made the film is a Coptic Egyptian and knew exactly what he was doing..

And what did Bush do about 9/11 oh yeah, Iraq. Which accomplished what?. Was that not done in the name of peacekeeping?
Obama accomplished the same thing for Libya without a major war. It is a great loss to lose Ambassador Stevens but he first and foremost wanted to rebuild Libya and knew the risk. he would understand the difference between al kaeda and the Lybya people, What happened in Libya was done by al kaeda in retaliation for us killing one of their leaders. Completely separate from Libya as a country. Al kaeda is occupying parts of Libya.

No way Mitt has any better understanding of what the hell is going on.

I think the silence from conservatives on this board is implicit sympathy for the bombing of the mosque and the shooting in the Sikh temple. Why did the conservatives on DCUM not adequately condemn the violence? Christianity = religion of hate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding that stupid article, "implicit sympathy" that is admitting that they are reaching.

Does Tim McVeigh represent all republicans? Should we have cut off aid to Oklahoma? We know Tim McVeigh would not vote for Obama if he were alive today. How many secret cell militias do we have lurking around in the U.S. they are all terrorists in their own right and republican at that. The salifest in egypt are a small group and don't even live in Cairo. They went specifically to cause trouble and other locals were paid to riot. they don't represent progressive Egyptians. And the person who made the film is a Coptic Egyptian and knew exactly what he was doing..

And what did Bush do about 9/11 oh yeah, Iraq. Which accomplished what?. Was that not done in the name of peacekeeping?
Obama accomplished the same thing for Libya without a major war. It is a great loss to lose Ambassador Stevens but he first and foremost wanted to rebuild Libya and knew the risk. he would understand the difference between al kaeda and the Lybya people, What happened in Libya was done by al kaeda in retaliation for us killing one of their leaders. Completely separate from Libya as a country. Al kaeda is occupying parts of Libya.

No way Mitt has any better understanding of what the hell is going on.

I think the silence from conservatives on this board is implicit sympathy for the bombing of the mosque and the shooting in the Sikh temple. Why did the conservatives on DCUM not adequately condemn the violence? Christianity = religion of hate.

Nonsense. We just relish former Clinton staffers like Kirsten Powers consistently pushing back on her own party's follies. And no stupid, it's not Fox News thats warped her mind, it's just logic, mixed in with some regret likely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:The real world is complex and nuanced. The other day Mittens made a very clear statement about Russia and nearly set off a diplomatic crisis.

His name is Mitt. I'm this was just an error on your part. Surely a moderator would wish to appear as one of the more mature folks in the group, instead of one of the less mature ones.

I smell the smelly smell of sanctimony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding that stupid article, "implicit sympathy" that is admitting that they are reaching.

Does Tim McVeigh represent all republicans? Should we have cut off aid to Oklahoma? We know Tim McVeigh would not vote for Obama if he were alive today. How many secret cell militias do we have lurking around in the U.S. they are all terrorists in their own right and republican at that. The salifest in egypt are a small group and don't even live in Cairo. They went specifically to cause trouble and other locals were paid to riot. they don't represent progressive Egyptians. And the person who made the film is a Coptic Egyptian and knew exactly what he was doing..

And what did Bush do about 9/11 oh yeah, Iraq. Which accomplished what?. Was that not done in the name of peacekeeping?
Obama accomplished the same thing for Libya without a major war. It is a great loss to lose Ambassador Stevens but he first and foremost wanted to rebuild Libya and knew the risk. he would understand the difference between al kaeda and the Lybya people, What happened in Libya was done by al kaeda in retaliation for us killing one of their leaders. Completely separate from Libya as a country. Al kaeda is occupying parts of Libya.

No way Mitt has any better understanding of what the hell is going on.

I think the silence from conservatives on this board is implicit sympathy for the bombing of the mosque and the shooting in the Sikh temple. Why did the conservatives on DCUM not adequately condemn the violence? Christianity = religion of hate.

Nonsense. We just relish former Clinton staffers like Kirsten Powers consistently pushing back on her own party's follies. And no stupid, it's not Fox News thats warped her mind, it's just logic, mixed in with some regret likely.

You mean the woman who supports Obamacare, opposed the Iraq war, pushed for the repeal of DADT, who opposes the death penalty, who favors gun control and believes in a program to give illegal immigrants citizenship. Hers is a position you cherish for its consistency.

[Anonymous]

If it doesn't bother you that Obama and his administration have had no positive influence on the Middle East, go ahead and vote for him. He is a weak leader, in my opinion. He ran on his magical ability to get the world to like America again. But he has failed at that. We have no stronger relations with any nation than we did four years ago.

His foreign policy has been a failure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't bother you that Obama and his administration have had no positive influence on the Middle East, go ahead and vote for him. He is a weak leader, in my opinion. He ran on his magical ability to get the world to like America again. But he has failed at that. We have no stronger relations with any nation than we did four years ago.

His foreign policy has been a failure.

I don't consider it a failure to bring our troops home, or to kill the enemy who launched 911.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't bother you that Obama and his administration have had no positive influence on the Middle East, go ahead and vote for him. He is a weak leader, in my opinion. He ran on his magical ability to get the world to like America again. But he has failed at that. We have no stronger relations with any nation than we did four years ago.

His foreign policy has been a failure.

And what actions, pray tell, would have qualified as a positive influence in your esteemed and learned opinion? Do tell.

[jsteele]

Mittens had more foreign policy failures during his week abroad than Obama has had his entire term.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Mittens had more foreign policy failures during his week abroad than Obama has had his entire term.

Agreed. If you can piss off England, you are not ready to leave the state, much less the country.