"Cathedral Schools"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With regard to NCS vs STA, think about this year's early admission results --

STA: Harvard (5), Yale (4), Dartmouth (3), Princeton (1).

NCS: Dartmouth (1), Penn (3).

So while they're both great, great schools, and the college results for classes will differ from year to year, and -- importantly -- other STA and NCS students may get into these schools during the normal admission process, there does seem to be a difference in early college admission results.

This is one year. Other years NCS does better. It really varies tremendously from year to year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hasn't anyone also heard that the competition for girls in the college admissions race is much, much stiffer than that for boys? There simply aren't as many driven boys as there are girls. It's not at all surprising that St. Alban's would have more acceptances than NCS.

There is no shortage of boys trying to get into the most selective schools. I think the difference is more apparent in slightly less selective schools. The results mentioned above are stunning no matter how they are spu.n.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With regard to NCS vs STA, think about this year's early admission results --

STA: Harvard (5), Yale (4), Dartmouth (3), Princeton (1).

NCS: Dartmouth (1), Penn (3).

So while they're both great, great schools, and the college results for classes will differ from year to year, and -- importantly -- other STA and NCS students may get into these schools during the normal admission process, there does seem to be a difference in early college admission results.

Very impressive for STA -- how many had ALUM hooks? NCS is a very, very strong school, but it's no mystery why NCS parts want to be considered as the girls' St. Albans

Very unlikely that an Athletic hook alone was involved with a student from STA. L and UM hooks are possible.

Not sure what you mean. If it is that STA doesn't produce college athletes, that is incorrect. STA has a significant number of current Division I athletes in college (including in lacrosse, baseball, track, cross country, rowing, football, and swimming). Of this year's group of early Ivy admits, at least 3 were recruited for sports although they are also great students. So if you meant that the athletes from STA are generally also very strong students, that is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hasn't anyone also heard that the competition for girls in the college admissions race is much, much stiffer than that for boys? There simply aren't as many driven boys as there are girls. It's not at all surprising that St. Alban's would have more acceptances than NCS.

There is no shortage of boys trying to get into the most selective schools. I think the difference is more apparent in slightly less selective schools. The results mentioned above are stunning no matter how they are spu.n.

Love STA, but I promise you it varies each year as to the results and the comparison with NCS. Can't speak for the Class of 2013 at NCS, but next years's senior class at STA is not as strong academically and no doubt the results will reflect that. The numbers are just too small here to jump to big conclusions after any given year.

[Anonymous]

How many of the STA boys are legacy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With regard to NCS vs STA, think about this year's early admission results --

STA: Harvard (5), Yale (4), Dartmouth (3), Princeton (1).

NCS: Dartmouth (1), Penn (3).

So while they're both great, great schools, and the college results for classes will differ from year to year, and -- importantly -- other STA and NCS students may get into these schools during the normal admission process, there does seem to be a difference in early college admission results.

This is one year. Other years NCS does better. It really varies tremendously from year to year.

Holy Shit ! Wow. 5 to Harvard as early decision. Please tell me they weren't all from Hong Kong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to confirm: STA early acceptances: Harvard (5), Yale (4), Penn (3), Dartmouth (3), Princeton (1), Columbia (1) out of a graduating class of 76. Of the 17, only 2 had a clear athletic connection with the admissions office, one baseball and one crew. There were many other early acceptances as well such as: Wake Forest (3), Tufts, and Sewanee (2).

You should post the full matriculation list in the spring, so we can believe you. Didn't early admission results just get released a day or two ago? And you Already know results from a quarter of the class?

That is entirely plausible. Come on, if the early decision letter from Harvard came to your house would you just sit on that. Would you maybe smile a bit more at drop off, go out and celebrate. Your friends see you beaming and ask what is up with you??? Having an affair ? No, my son just got accepted early decision at Harvard. That one gets around.
It is , after all, admissions season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to confirm: STA early acceptances: Harvard (5), Yale (4), Penn (3), Dartmouth (3), Princeton (1), Columbia (1) out of a graduating class of 76. Of the 17, only 2 had a clear athletic connection with the admissions office, one baseball and one crew. There were many other early acceptances as well such as: Wake Forest (3), Tufts, and Sewanee (2).

You should post the full matriculation list in the spring, so we can believe you. Didn't early admission results just get released a day or two ago? And you Already know results from a quarter of the class?

That is entirely plausible. Come on, if the early decision letter from Harvard came to your house would you just sit on that. Would you maybe smile a bit more at drop off, go out and celebrate. Your friends see you beaming and ask what is up with you??? Having an affair ? No, my son just got accepted early decision at Harvard. That one gets around.
It is , after all, admissions season.

Lessons and Carols is after the notification so results spread fast. The Cathedral is packed and there are receptions for seniors. A common date for notice is Dec 15. Some people could even be getting notice of the decisions via their phones.

[Anonymous]

The boys going for early admittance knew about all of their friends' fates withing 36 hours.*

Two small points ...

The STA admissions also included Cal Tech (1), and two of the Harvard admissions were crew-related.

At Harvard, the coaches submit lists of people they would like to the AdCom, but no one really thinks that such lists are more than a very minor factor in the decision.

For example, one of the "athletes" admitted also has the highest GPA and SATs in his class, and another is very close behind. Those boys would have been admitted anywhere.
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*The decision came by email. The actual admissions letter arrived three days later.

[Anonymous]

One last point about Harvard and "athletes."

The University sent out between two and three hundred "likely admission" letters six or eight weeks ago. These went to extraordinary athletes who met Harvard's admissions criteria, generously construed. All the Ivies send out such letters nowadays.

No one at STA got that sort of letter this year, though one former student did. (In his case, his parents decided to redshirt him a year after his STA experience and send him to boarding school in Delaware -- a decision which in retrospect seems to have paid off.)

[Anonymous]

Any idea how many were legacies? The legacy admissions for the Ivies is about 1 in 3, even better for early admits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The boys going for early admittance knew about all of their friends' fates withing 36 hours.*

Two small points ...

The STA admissions also included Cal Tech (1), and two of the Harvard admissions were crew-related.

At Harvard, the coaches submit lists of people they would like to the AdCom, but no one really thinks that such lists are more than a very minor factor in the decision.

For example, one of the "athletes" admitted also has the highest GPA and SATs in his class, and another is very close behind. Those boys would have been admitted anywhere.
_________

*The decision came by email. The actual admissions letter arrived three days later.

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You know almost nothing about recruiting at ivies. Everyone thinks such lists are a major factor in the decision. Because they are.

[Anonymous]

Just about Harvard's whole crew team is from Eastern Europe these days. (Imagine Ivan Drago from the Rocky XXIII movie, in a crew singlet.) Maybe even the Winklevi would struggle to make this roster!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, really? I hear lots of folks with children at all three schools use the phrase. Most of the DCs in our neighborhood attend one of these three schools - two families are second or third generation - and all of them refer to the triumvirate as "Cathedral Schools." Perhaps you do not get out as much as you did back in the day.

Hey, Meanie, pp said "Cathedral" not "Cathedral Schools." Native Washingtonian here, and Cathedral has always meant NCS.

Put your snark away. Or, as I tell my toddler, "Be Nice."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, really? I hear lots of folks with children at all three schools use the phrase. Most of the DCs in our neighborhood attend one of these three schools - two families are second or third generation - and all of them refer to the triumvirate as "Cathedral Schools." Perhaps you do not get out as much as you did back in the day.

Hey, Meanie, pp said "Cathedral" not "Cathedral Schools." Native Washingtonian here, and Cathedral has always meant NCS.

Put your snark away. Or, as I tell my toddler, "Be Nice."

Hey, Preachy, the thread was entitled "Cathedral Schools." The poster you are defending appeared to think people only say "Cathedral" in the singular (in which case it does mean NCS, which no one doubted) and appeared to have never heard the usage "Cathedral Schools" (which is a modern day usage, generally for families with kids at more than one out of the three).