Has a previous employer ever blacklisted you??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe my previous employers have blacklisted me. How would an employer go about doing this?

Were you fired? Did you quit? What were the circumstances that led you to leave the company? There are many reasons a company may not give you a shining reference. For what it's worth they legally cannot say anything "bad" about you, what they can say is that they would not rehire you.Why not call Human Resources or your former manager and ask if they've had any reference calls for you and talk about what is being said?

How are you certain you've been blacklisted? I just find it odd you think this because it really only happens if they employee was a nightmare and even then all that can really be said is that they would not rehire you.

Think about what you may have done to be let go, or when you left. You could always give your potential employers a heads up and let them know what may be said and present your case to them as to why you should be hired.

I don't know where people get the common misconception that your former employer cannot say anything "bad" about you. Absolutely untrue. Your former employer can say anything he/she likes about you, as long as it's true and correct. If you screwed up on the job and I call your former employer for a reference, your former employer can be truthful with me and tell me "He was a huge screw-up." Now, if you were NOT a huge screw-up, and they are telling me that because they fired you for being pregnant, or Muslim, or whatever -- THAT is what is illegal. But simply telling the truth about the fact that you were a terrible employee is not in any way illegal. And you have no grounds for protesting that you are being "blacklisted" because your former employer(s) is giving correct and accurate information about your work record.

Now, having said that, many employers are so leery of lawsuits for defamation that they will only provide dates of employment and the information as to whether a former employee is eligible for rehire, and nothing else.

Are you an HR professional? No, they cannot say anything "bad" about you. They certainly cannot say you were a screw up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ha OP- I like the "stick your head in the oven bitch" comment. I work in an industry and in the DC area where alot of people talk and I left my old job with no bad relationships other then one manager who has tried to take my name down everywhere I go. What advice are you looking for specifically?

Thank you -- I am not usually so evil, but sometimes my emotions get the best of me. Especially on a site like this. Well, I guess I am looking for a work around. What can I do?

If I had to guess, I would say this is what got you fired and this is what is causing you not to be hired.

If you first reaction is to lash out with anger and violence when something or someone doesn't go they way you want, that is indeed very troubling to an employer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe my previous employers have blacklisted me. How would an employer go about doing this?

Were you fired? Did you quit? What were the circumstances that led you to leave the company? There are many reasons a company may not give you a shining reference. For what it's worth they legally cannot say anything "bad" about you, what they can say is that they would not rehire you.Why not call Human Resources or your former manager and ask if they've had any reference calls for you and talk about what is being said?

How are you certain you've been blacklisted? I just find it odd you think this because it really only happens if they employee was a nightmare and even then all that can really be said is that they would not rehire you.

Think about what you may have done to be let go, or when you left. You could always give your potential employers a heads up and let them know what may be said and present your case to them as to why you should be hired.

I don't know where people get the common misconception that your former employer cannot say anything "bad" about you. Absolutely untrue. Your former employer can say anything he/she likes about you, as long as it's true and correct. If you screwed up on the job and I call your former employer for a reference, your former employer can be truthful with me and tell me "He was a huge screw-up." Now, if you were NOT a huge screw-up, and they are telling me that because they fired you for being pregnant, or Muslim, or whatever -- THAT is what is illegal. But simply telling the truth about the fact that you were a terrible employee is not in any way illegal. And you have no grounds for protesting that you are being "blacklisted" because your former employer(s) is giving correct and accurate information about your work record.

Now, having said that, many employers are so leery of lawsuits for defamation that they will only provide dates of employment and the information as to whether a former employee is eligible for rehire, and nothing else.

Are you an HR professional? No, they cannot say anything "bad" about you. They certainly cannot say you were a screw up.

Why no, I'm not an HR professional. What I am is an employment lawyer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha OP- I like the "stick your head in the oven bitch" comment. I work in an industry and in the DC area where alot of people talk and I left my old job with no bad relationships other then one manager who has tried to take my name down everywhere I go. What advice are you looking for specifically?

Thank you -- I am not usually so evil, but sometimes my emotions get the best of me. Especially on a site like this. Well, I guess I am looking for a work around. What can I do?

If I had to guess, I would say this is what got you fired and this is what is causing you not to be hired.

If you first reaction is to lash out with anger and violence when something or someone doesn't go they way you want, that is indeed very troubling to an employer.

thanks for your opinion.

[Anonymous]

I thought they were allowed to give you a glowing review if they felt like it, but not allowed to say anything bad. So if they only give dates of employment and your position, it means they have nothing good to say about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm still interested to know the circumstances under which you left this company. Prior to staying home with my children I worked in HR. It sounds like you may have quit with no notice, been let go, or were a "bad" employee". There is a part of this story you're not telling us.

thank you for your interest. i appreciate you following up, but i'd rather not get into specifics on dcum. i was looking for general information. some people were helpful, some not so much, but i appreciate all feedback.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe my previous employers have blacklisted me. How would an employer go about doing this?

Were you fired? Did you quit? What were the circumstances that led you to leave the company? There are many reasons a company may not give you a shining reference. For what it's worth they legally cannot say anything "bad" about you, what they can say is that they would not rehire you.Why not call Human Resources or your former manager and ask if they've had any reference calls for you and talk about what is being said?

How are you certain you've been blacklisted? I just find it odd you think this because it really only happens if they employee was a nightmare and even then all that can really be said is that they would not rehire you.

Think about what you may have done to be let go, or when you left. You could always give your potential employers a heads up and let them know what may be said and present your case to them as to why you should be hired.

I don't know where people get the common misconception that your former employer cannot say anything "bad" about you. Absolutely untrue. Your former employer can say anything he/she likes about you, as long as it's true and correct. If you screwed up on the job and I call your former employer for a reference, your former employer can be truthful with me and tell me "He was a huge screw-up." Now, if you were NOT a huge screw-up, and they are telling me that because they fired you for being pregnant, or Muslim, or whatever -- THAT is what is illegal. But simply telling the truth about the fact that you were a terrible employee is not in any way illegal. And you have no grounds for protesting that you are being "blacklisted" because your former employer(s) is giving correct and accurate information about your work record.

Now, having said that, many employers are so leery of lawsuits for defamation that they will only provide dates of employment and the information as to whether a former employee is eligible for rehire, and nothing else.

Are you an HR professional? No, they cannot say anything "bad" about you. They certainly cannot say you were a screw up.

Why no, I'm not an HR professional. What I am is an employment lawyer.

op here -- in your experience, what are tactics used by employers to get rid of an employee without firing them? i feel that i was in an extremely hostile work environment and my employers when above and beyond to make me uncomfortable so i would leave. most of this took place after i came back from maternity leave. i'd be interested in hearing your views. thanks.

[Anonymous]

We were as helpful as we could have been with the scant information you afforded. Were you looking for advice, vindication, or validation? It's hard to tell. Any advice you didn't agree with was met with nastiness. Any questions in order to help you further were met with resistance. What exactly are you looking for here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were as helpful as we could have been with the scant information you afforded. Were you looking for advice, vindication, or validation? It's hard to tell. Any advice you didn't agree with was met with nastiness. Any questions in order to help you further were met with resistance. What exactly are you looking for here?

op -- i have only commented four times. the oven comment being the only nasty comment. so, any other nastiness was not coming from me. why are you annoyed because i don't want to tell the world all the details? i am not looking for validation or vindication. are you interested in helping me? i can contact you offline.

[Anonymous]

give up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe my previous employers have blacklisted me. How would an employer go about doing this?

Were you fired? Did you quit? What were the circumstances that led you to leave the company? There are many reasons a company may not give you a shining reference. For what it's worth they legally cannot say anything "bad" about you, what they can say is that they would not rehire you.Why not call Human Resources or your former manager and ask if they've had any reference calls for you and talk about what is being said?

How are you certain you've been blacklisted? I just find it odd you think this because it really only happens if they employee was a nightmare and even then all that can really be said is that they would not rehire you.

Think about what you may have done to be let go, or when you left. You could always give your potential employers a heads up and let them know what may be said and present your case to them as to why you should be hired.

I don't know where people get the common misconception that your former employer cannot say anything "bad" about you. Absolutely untrue. Your former employer can say anything he/she likes about you, as long as it's true and correct. If you screwed up on the job and I call your former employer for a reference, your former employer can be truthful with me and tell me "He was a huge screw-up." Now, if you were NOT a huge screw-up, and they are telling me that because they fired you for being pregnant, or Muslim, or whatever -- THAT is what is illegal. But simply telling the truth about the fact that you were a terrible employee is not in any way illegal. And you have no grounds for protesting that you are being "blacklisted" because your former employer(s) is giving correct and accurate information about your work record.

Now, having said that, many employers are so leery of lawsuits for defamation that they will only provide dates of employment and the information as to whether a former employee is eligible for rehire, and nothing else.

Are you an HR professional? No, they cannot say anything "bad" about you. They certainly cannot say you were a screw up.

Why no, I'm not an HR professional. What I am is an employment lawyer.

op here -- in your experience, what are tactics used by employers to get rid of an employee without firing them? i feel that i was in an extremely hostile work environment and my employers when above and beyond to make me uncomfortable so i would leave. most of this took place after i came back from maternity leave. i'd be interested in hearing your views. thanks.

"Hostile work environment" is a legal term that means that your work environment was discriminatory based on a protected class -- race, religion, sex, pregnancy etc. It does not mean that you work in an environment in which people are mean or bullying or made you feel uncomfortable or bad about yourself just because they are mean and nasty people and acted in a hostile manner. Your employer is entitled to be mean to you as long as it is not linked to your maternity leave or some other protected class. If you feel it was, contact a lawyer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
op here -- in your experience, what are tactics used by employers to get rid of an employee without firing them? i feel that i was in an extremely hostile work environment and my employers when above and beyond to make me uncomfortable so i would leave. most of this took place after i came back from maternity leave. i'd be interested in hearing your views. thanks.

"Hostile work environment" is a legal term that means that your work environment was discriminatory based on a protected class -- race, religion, sex, pregnancy etc. It does not mean that you work in an environment in which people are mean or bullying or made you feel uncomfortable or bad about yourself just because they are mean and nasty people and acted in a hostile manner. Your employer is entitled to be mean to you as long as it is not linked to your maternity leave or some other protected class. If you feel it was, contact a lawyer.

By the way, if you quit in lieu of being fired, you have a very high standard of showing "constructive discharge."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe my previous employers have blacklisted me. How would an employer go about doing this?

Were you fired? Did you quit? What were the circumstances that led you to leave the company? There are many reasons a company may not give you a shining reference. For what it's worth they legally cannot say anything "bad" about you, what they can say is that they would not rehire you.Why not call Human Resources or your former manager and ask if they've had any reference calls for you and talk about what is being said?

How are you certain you've been blacklisted? I just find it odd you think this because it really only happens if they employee was a nightmare and even then all that can really be said is that they would not rehire you.

Think about what you may have done to be let go, or when you left. You could always give your potential employers a heads up and let them know what may be said and present your case to them as to why you should be hired.

I don't know where people get the common misconception that your former employer cannot say anything "bad" about you. Absolutely untrue. Your former employer can say anything he/she likes about you, as long as it's true and correct. If you screwed up on the job and I call your former employer for a reference, your former employer can be truthful with me and tell me "He was a huge screw-up." Now, if you were NOT a huge screw-up, and they are telling me that because they fired you for being pregnant, or Muslim, or whatever -- THAT is what is illegal. But simply telling the truth about the fact that you were a terrible employee is not in any way illegal. And you have no grounds for protesting that you are being "blacklisted" because your former employer(s) is giving correct and accurate information about your work record.

Now, having said that, many employers are so leery of lawsuits for defamation that they will only provide dates of employment and the information as to whether a former employee is eligible for rehire, and nothing else.

Are you an HR professional? No, they cannot say anything "bad" about you. They certainly cannot say you were a screw up.

Why no, I'm not an HR professional. What I am is an employment lawyer.

..And I am an HR Professional. Again, there is no law against speaking the truth and if the reference is someone other than HR they just might get it. We never gave out any information for the very reason the trusted employment lawyer gave above - fear of lawsuits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were as helpful as we could have been with the scant information you afforded. Were you looking for advice, vindication, or validation? It's hard to tell. Any advice you didn't agree with was met with nastiness. Any questions in order to help you further were met with resistance. What exactly are you looking for here?

Not the OP but totally do not agree with this. The first poster was unnecessarily mean. If you weren't getting some joy out of being mean to an anonymous stranger then you would have just left the thread. Lots of seriously nasty responders on this thread for some reason. It's hard for anyone to ignore a$$holes like that. At least OP collected herself and managed to take advice from people who actually had it to give.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought they were allowed to give you a glowing review if they felt like it, but not allowed to say anything bad. So if they only give dates of employment and your position, it means they have nothing good to say about you.

Disagree, sorry.

In one large company where I spent a number of happy, productive years, the policy was that HR would give only dates of employment and position. It didn't mean anything, good or bad. Theoretically, a manager couldn't represent the company when giving a reference; fortunately, most people checked references by telephone, and it wasn't at all hard to give a glowing recommendation. Most people were bright enough to avoid a poor reference. The only problem was the more-or-less middling performers, often quite nice people, who weren't in the right job.