Has a previous employer ever blacklisted you??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP has a major attitude, calling a poster a bitch and telling her to stick her head in the oven. No one was kicking her when she was down.

Not OP but I disagree. That first PP was unnecessarily nasty; would never tell her to put her head in an oven, but what gives people license to post mean responses like that? And then they claim the nannies are nasty....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP has a major attitude, calling a poster a bitch and telling her to stick her head in the oven. No one was kicking her when she was down.

did you read her response to my innocent question? she supposedly does not know me or my situation and she was being rude and attacking me for seemingly no reason at all. if you had been through what i have been through -- you would know why i snapped.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha OP- I like the "stick your head in the oven bitch" comment. I work in an industry and in the DC area where alot of people talk and I left my old job with no bad relationships other then one manager who has tried to take my name down everywhere I go. What advice are you looking for specifically?

Thank you -- I am not usually so evil, but sometimes my emotions get the best of me. Especially on a site like this. Well, I guess I am looking for a work around. What can I do?

Ha- you sound like me! I think the best thing to do is try and dis-associate yourself with any companies that this person might contact about you. I am not sure the line of business you are in but sometimes its easy to try and stay in the same niche of work companies (like in my case) but this person would say crap to other friends and people in professional associations about me. If there is a way to move out of that network and look at some new options that is what I suggest. Unfortunately with crazy people who like to bad nouth you around the town its not easy to stop and avoid but try to distance yourself from them. Does that make any sense. I am sorry if you give me some more info I might be able to help out more?

[Anonymous]

14:23 - on the money. OP, lots of employers are asking about "good fit" these days. If the new employer knows to ask the question, and you were not a good fit, it might be held against you. Working well with others can be as important as your PhD most places. Often, it is as important to find someone not on your reference list as it is to find the names you provide (because of course you are going to provide favorable references!) This from experience.

[Anonymous]

OP, have a friend call your former employer and ask for a reference. When I worked in HR the only information we were allowed to give was confirmation of dates of employment. If we were asked if employee was eligible for rehire we said that all we could do was confirm employment dates. We were told not to even confirm salary. DCUM is full of assholes and apparently they are all on line today.

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Anonymous wrote:Based solely on the two sentences in your post, I am willing to bet that your failure to get hired has much more to do with your lack of savy and general comprehension skills.

You do know that there is no true "blacklist" right? And that all a former employer can do is say bad things about you, which they are allowed to do. So, if you got fired for poor performance, you have not been "blacklisted" you just haven't been hired because you are a known poor performer. See how that works?

o.k. say bad things/blacklisted -- same freaking thing. go stick your head in an oven bitch!!

And I guess that would be the reason why you're "blacklisted"...

i would imagine it is because of mean spirited people such as yourself. people who just have to say something negative or snide when there is no need. people who live to make others miserable for no reason at all. why couldn't you just pass of this post? you wanted to make me feel bad, right? you wanted to show me how dumb you thought my question was, right? go back to work, or watching tv, or trolling the this site for someone else to annoy or belittle -- this post is not for you. go away!!

I was just pointing out that you were pretty rude to someone posting advice that was good and constructive. Clearly, we don't always wanna hear the truth, because it's not fun.
I'm not trying to make people feel bad. I don't have the need for that. But when you ask a question like that, and are rude and insult people who try to give advice, it will make people wonder why you got blacklisted, or recived a bad review at work. I'm definitely not always great at taking critic, but I try to deal with it as best as I can, especially at work. I'm not at all mean spirited, and was about to post with some advice what I would do in your situation. But seeing how you repond to advice, I'd rather save my advice for people who actually want it.
I also didn't think your question was dumb. I did think, your reply to that poster was rude, mean-spirited and kinda shows your character and your weakness in dealing with critic.

Good luck. Going away now, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Based solely on the two sentences in your post, I am willing to bet that your failure to get hired has much more to do with your lack of savy and general comprehension skills.

You do know that there is no true "blacklist" right? And that all a former employer can do is say bad things about you, which they are allowed to do. So, if you got fired for poor performance, you have not been "blacklisted" you just haven't been hired because you are a known poor performer. See how that works?

o.k. say bad things/blacklisted -- same freaking thing. go stick your head in an oven bitch!!

And I guess that would be the reason why you're "blacklisted"...

i would imagine it is because of mean spirited people such as yourself. people who just have to say something negative or snide when there is no need. people who live to make others miserable for no reason at all. why couldn't you just pass of this post? you wanted to make me feel bad, right? you wanted to show me how dumb you thought my question was, right? go back to work, or watching tv, or trolling the this site for someone else to annoy or belittle -- this post is not for you. go away!!

I was just pointing out that you were pretty rude to someone posting advice that was good and constructive. Clearly, we don't always wanna hear the truth, because it's not fun.
I'm not trying to make people feel bad. I don't have the need for that. But when you ask a question like that, and are rude and insult people who try to give advice, it will make people wonder why you got blacklisted, or recived a bad review at work. I'm definitely not always great at taking critic, but I try to deal with it as best as I can, especially at work. I'm not at all mean spirited, and was about to post with some advice what I would do in your situation. But seeing how you repond to advice, I'd rather save my advice for people who actually want it.
I also didn't think your question was dumb. I did think, your reply to that poster was rude, mean-spirited and kinda shows your character and your weakness in dealing with critic.

Good luck. Going away now, lol.

I'm sorry -- I missed the advice portion of that post. Basically, you called me dumb "lack of comprehension," and said I was repeatedly a bad work performer. If you don't know me at all, why would you jump to that conclusion? Anyway, why are you trying to justify your bad behavior Glad you are going away. There are people who are really giving advice that I can possibly use.

[Anonymous]

OP, I don't know what phase of your career you are in, but a few words of advice.

1) Consider another field. The only way to be 'blacklisted' is if you're in a small industry where everyone knows each other. It can happen, I agree.

2) Check yourself. Please take a good hard look at your situation and how you could better react in similar situations in the future. It may seem like people earn success by competing and winning (and this making enemies), but you can get really far by just being nice and diplomatic, even if someone is evil or intentionally making your life a living hell. Always take the higher road and try your best to never make enemies (even if it means giving a fake smile and 'hi' sometimes or letting things roll off your back).

3) Go back to the people who you know would give you a good reference and get one in writing. Letters are great and if anyone is super-hesitant to write a letter, it's because they won't refer you as a good employee - so drop them as a reference.

4) Stop the drama. Yes your situation sucks, whatever it is, and people are being mean/vindictive/evil. Distance yourself and rise above. Be the professional. And follow the MOST IMPORTANT rule of being a professional: Don't ever, ever say anything bad about someone else. You never know who is listening and when you bash someone, it makes you look petty and unprofessional. Even if they left anchovies in your shoes, let other people figure out who the bad guy is.

[Anonymous]

Again OP - were you fired? What were the circumstances under which you left? Give us more info and we'll give you a "work around".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, have a friend call your former employer and ask for a reference. When I worked in HR the only information we were allowed to give was confirmation of dates of employment. If we were asked if employee was eligible for rehire we said that all we could do was confirm employment dates. We were told not to even confirm salary.

I like this idea. I am in HR. I would never tell salary over the phone but if the caller knows it, I will tell them if it's true.

Generally, in making reference calls while trying to hire people, I find the policy of name, rank, serial # is followed if there's a bad reference, and a good reference is given for bad employees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Based solely on the two sentences in your post, I am willing to bet that your failure to get hired has much more to do with your lack of savy and general comprehension skills.

You do know that there is no true "blacklist" right? And that all a former employer can do is say bad things about you, which they are allowed to do. So, if you got fired for poor performance, you have not been "blacklisted" you just haven't been hired because you are a known poor performer. See how that works?

o.k. say bad things/blacklisted -- same freaking thing. go stick your head in an oven bitch!!

And I guess that would be the reason why you're "blacklisted"...

i would imagine it is because of mean spirited people such as yourself. people who just have to say something negative or snide when there is no need. people who live to make others miserable for no reason at all. why couldn't you just pass of this post? you wanted to make me feel bad, right? you wanted to show me how dumb you thought my question was, right? go back to work, or watching tv, or trolling the this site for someone else to annoy or belittle -- this post is not for you. go away!!

I was just pointing out that you were pretty rude to someone posting advice that was good and constructive. Clearly, we don't always wanna hear the truth, because it's not fun.
I'm not trying to make people feel bad. I don't have the need for that. But when you ask a question like that, and are rude and insult people who try to give advice, it will make people wonder why you got blacklisted, or recived a bad review at work. I'm definitely not always great at taking critic, but I try to deal with it as best as I can, especially at work. I'm not at all mean spirited, and was about to post with some advice what I would do in your situation. But seeing how you repond to advice, I'd rather save my advice for people who actually want it.
I also didn't think your question was dumb. I did think, your reply to that poster was rude, mean-spirited and kinda shows your character and your weakness in dealing with critic.

Good luck. Going away now, lol.

Not the OP, but you're joking, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, have a friend call your former employer and ask for a reference. When I worked in HR the only information we were allowed to give was confirmation of dates of employment. If we were asked if employee was eligible for rehire we said that all we could do was confirm employment dates. We were told not to even confirm salary.

I like this idea. I am in HR. I would never tell salary over the phone but if the caller knows it, I will tell them if it's true.
Generally, in making reference calls while trying to hire people, I find the policy of name, rank, serial # is followed if there's a bad reference, and a good reference is given for bad employees.

What if the number they have is incorrect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP has a major attitude, calling a poster a bitch and telling her to stick her head in the oven. No one was kicking her when she was down.

I would probably be able to suss out OP's major attitude problem and would eliminate her very quickly from any candidate pool. She does not appear to have a good, cooperative mind-set, and I'll bet it shows in everything she does (apparently even on anonymous forums).

OP, flame away. You're only burning yourself with your foul attitude in the end.

[Anonymous]

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14:23 - on the money. OP, lots of employers are asking about "good fit" these days. If the new employer knows to ask the question, and you were not a good fit, it might be held against you. Working well with others can be as important as your PhD most places. Often, it is as important to find someone not on your reference list as it is to find the names you provide (because of course you are going to provide favorable references!) This from experience.

OP, this is spot-on. If you can't learn to ignore negativity and rise to the bait even on an anonymous forum, I shudder to think about how you handle normal workplace politics. No wonder you are having trouble.

My advice is to work on your attitude and realize that, in the professional world, how you are viewed by others can affect your career more than your actual skills and abilities. Whether you were a good teammate and co-worker will go a long way to making sure you're given good references and that people will pass job opportunities your way in the future.

This is also from experience (HR for a large organization).

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Anonymous wrote:Again OP - were you fired? What were the circumstances under which you left? Give us more info and we'll give you a "work around".

yes - i was let go. it is a long story -- one that would reveal my identity if i give too much detail. you never know who is on this site. i don't know or did not keep in touch with anyone.