Who has seen the Obamas in church, where and when?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It makes me so sad when you attack me, NOT.

You have no response to cogent points.

Are you suggesting that wimpy boy and brainy girl had no idea about the complexities of foreign policy?

Tell wimpy you are fed up with him criticizing the Cambridge police, trying to get on the buddy list of Michael Vick and all the rest of his garbage.

While you get points for your correct spelling of "cogent", you're clearly misusing the word. You should see if you can get your parents to buy you a dictionary for your birthday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is pretending to hold the wheel now and asked for it? Duh!

If Obama's election did absolutely nothing other than to keep that wheel out of the hands of John McCain--with his mix of senility and impulse control issues--and Palin--dear God, seriously?--he's already done a greater service to the Republic than any president since FDR.

Please just stick to who wanted and has now had the wheel for two years.

You can dance all night with the other crap. He is showing all he can do is get behind the unions in Wisconsin. What a surprise, that is the realm of his only meaningful experience. But, wait, wimpy boy is confused again and trying "walk back" his comments on that.

This may be impossible for organized workers to understand, but just stick with me. You are talking with your boss and he has some issues with your performance. Try this. "Boss you have to consider the guy you had in my job two years ago before you hired me."

GOOD LUCK SUCKER!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it pretty amusing that the guy who presided over the worst foreign policy catastrophe of the last half-century is on TV giving advice--rather than simply retiring from public life in shame.

As Rumsfeld said last night, "We also need to solve the Pakistan problem." Hey! That's a *great* idea!

Turn on FOX now for a replay. He served Presidents of both parties I think. Make up your own mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it pretty amusing that the guy who presided over the worst foreign policy catastrophe of the last half-century is on TV giving advice--rather than simply retiring from public life in shame.

As Rumsfeld said last night, "We also need to solve the Pakistan problem." Hey! That's a *great* idea!

Turn on FOX now for a replay. He served Presidents of both parties I think. Make up your own mind.

See, the problem is, most residents of Greater Wingnuttia are woefully uninformed from top to bottom. They fill the copious gaps in their own knowledge with fantasy and speculation. Whereas most of the rest of us would read a book, or even skim Wikipedia to learn more about a subject, those forms of information are off-limits to wingnuts, as anything associated with a "liberal education" is part of the "Liberal conspiracy".

In any case, to address your delusional point: no, Rumsfeld didn't "serve Presidents of both parties". He's been a hard-core GOP partisan going back to the Nixon administration. He's only served "both parties" in the sense that he was heavily involved in the Nixon, Ford Admins, and the Dole campaign--and all three of those men would be Democrats if they were active in today's politics.

[Anonymous]

This may be impossible for organized workers to understand, but just stick with me. You are talking with your boss and he has some issues with your performance. Try this. "Boss you have to consider the guy you had in my job two years ago before you hired me."

To try an apropos metaphor. It's a bit like having a dry-drunk ex-frat boy drive your car for nearly a decade. He never changes the oil, is always redlining it, lighting up the tires every time the light turns green, etc, etc...

Finally, you take this car--leaking oil, smoking from the tailpipe--to a qualified mechanic. As he tallies all the things that he's going to need to do to get your car back into working condition, you realize what a fucking idiot the previous driver was, and a wave of shame washes over you as you realized you actually thought he was a *good* driver, and responsible person.

So, of course, you start screaming at your new mechanic because he hasn't managed to wave a wand and make the results of all your previous idiocy magically disappear. You should hit your local library and see if you can get some Dostoevsky--I think you'd get a lot out of it.

[Anonymous]

Just a last one on Rumsfeld:

Via The Atlantic comes this amazing message that ex-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld sent to then Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith in April 2003, concerning "Issues w/ Various Countries," as the subject line says.

The entire message is only 56 words long, but manages to address Syria, Libya, Iraq, Pakistan and "Korea," and ends with this question:

"Are you coming up with proposals for me to send around?"

This guy really is like a litmus test for imbiciles. People who know absolutely nothing other than that America needs to "STAND TALL" and "WALK PROUD" and other sorts of bovine koans just think he's the smartest guy who ever lived, and whatta manager!

The problem with this country is that one of the major political parties has given an inordinate amount of power to its base--and that base is too fucking stupid to understand anything.

Just to clarify: the Dems do everything they can to marginalize their base; the GOP wins elections by making a virtue out of ignorance. At one point, this was a cynical ploy for votes, but they can no longer tell the difference between the rube and the huckster.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, link to Rummy's brilliant musings here: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/02/what-its-like-to-work-for-donald-rumsfeld/71521/

[Anonymous]

Update:

Obama citings in church still ZERO.


Off subject chatter having nothing to do with his mythical church attendance, TONS and TONS.

Come on Jeff, support your contentions. Surely gathering around his Blackberry is not it. Well, I can see you guys are gullible when his lips move.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Come on Jeff, support your contentions. Surely gathering around his Blackberry is not it. Well, I can see you guys are gullible when his lips move.

If you want to believe that he doesn't go to church, knock yourself out. I really don't care. I know what I have seen. Frankly, I would be fine with Obama never attending church. I tried to correct a misconception you have. If you prefer ignorance, I am not surprised, but that's your choice.

[Anonymous]

"Come on Jeff, support your contentions. Surely gathering around his Blackberry is not it. Well, I can see you guys are gullible when his lips move. "

Jeff is too busy working on his emergency diet & exercise program to respond.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on Jeff, support your contentions. Surely gathering around his Blackberry is not it. Well, I can see you guys are gullible when his lips move.

If you want to believe that he doesn't go to church, knock yourself out. I really don't care. I know what I have seen. Frankly, I would be fine with Obama never attending church. I tried to correct a misconception you have. If you prefer ignorance, I am not surprised, but that's your choice.

Not good enough. These guys are used to their political leaders preening about, wrapped in an American flag, and waving a cross around. They find being bludgeoned over the head with ostentatious displays of religiosity somehow comforting. They simply can't wrap their minds around the idea that an American politician might not use their private beliefs for crass exploitative purposes. After all, that's what religion's all about, right?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on Jeff, support your contentions. Surely gathering around his Blackberry is not it. Well, I can see you guys are gullible when his lips move.

If you want to believe that he doesn't go to church, knock yourself out. I really don't care. I know what I have seen. Frankly, I would be fine with Obama never attending church. I tried to correct a misconception you have. If you prefer ignorance, I am not surprised, but that's your choice.

Jeff, you saw a motorcycle cop on the corner by your own account. It is all just more winpy boy deceptive crap. He lives on false illusion.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
Jeff, you saw a motorcycle cop on the corner by your own account. It is all just more winpy boy deceptive crap. He lives on false illusion.

Could you give me a general idea where you live? I'm thinking west Texas or something. You clearly don't have much experience in DC.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Jeff, you saw a motorcycle cop on the corner by your own account. It is all just more winpy boy deceptive crap. He lives on false illusion.

Could you give me a general idea where you live? I'm thinking west Texas or something. You clearly don't have much experience in DC.

Jeff, long, long, long on chatter. Bottom line no one has seen him in church including you.

Someone clearly has to do him and Michelle the favor of directing them to a black hate church. Who are we trying to kid here? It is just more deception. What a shock.

[Anonymous]

None of this is a religion issue.

The issue is what comes out of wimpy boy's mouth and reality, plain and simple.

His main craft is deception.