question for a mormon

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South Park really explains it all nicely.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes...ll-about-the-mormons

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Anonymous wrote:difference between mormons and mainstream christianity is that everything in the old testament that can be factually vetted has been proven to be true. historians accept the basic scenario - only question is the miracles and the resurrection.
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Totally false. Everything in the old testament has been disputed by historians. It depends on which historian you believe.

actually that was a typo. I meant to say "NEW" testament. big mistake, I realize. that said, much of the history in the Old testament is accurate too.

You are fucking stupid if you believe that. Jesus, even a cursory reading of wikipedia would dispel this notion, let alone reading any academic literature on the the subject.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been curious about this:
Do ya'll judge us non-LDSers when we drink coffee or alcohol in front of you in a professional setting? Not a lot, just one serving. please explain your answer.

Thanks!

Do you also wonder if Jewish folk jusge you for eating bacon or shrimp? No? Why is this any different?

But they do judge you. Make no mistake, jewish people think that goyim are unclean because they eat traife. So.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been curious about this:
Do ya'll judge us non-LDSers when we drink coffee or alcohol in front of you in a professional setting? Not a lot, just one serving. please explain your answer.

Thanks!

Do you also wonder if Jewish folk jusge you for eating bacon or shrimp? No? Why is this any different?

But they do judge you. Make no mistake, jewish people think that goyim are unclean because they eat traife. So.

And yet, I'm curiously unmoved.

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One thing that I've noticed about all Mormons that I've met is that they are extremely kind, nice people and have really great relationships with their families.

I have noticed this too, and I will add that the mainline LDS I've met are also very hardworking, successful, and unusually industrious. They are also often conventionally attractive. See Elizabeth Smart's whole family as an example of what I speak.

My props to them, said as respectful atheist.

It has been my experience as well. I have never met a nicer group of ppl as a whole. I think the hardworking thing is one of the major values of the religion. They have a remarkable ability to take care of their own. You will never find a mormon who is in need, as they have an unrivaled network of support.

The magic undies sound kooky, but clearly they are doing something right, as they truly seem to radiate happiness. Where can I get a pair of these undies? I could use an attitude adjustment myself!

Okay, whatever crazy. You do realize that the tv show Big Love is pretend, right?

I don't know anything about Big Love. I don't have premium TV channels, nor does this FTWM have the luxury of sitting around watching stupid shows.

I'm simply saying that ALL mormons I've come across have been very kind people with a positive attitude. I also read the sensational expose, Under the Banner of Heaven.

You are the crazy.

Get off the cross, we need the wood.

You don't need wood, you need a pair of magic under ware to untangle you vagina from the nasty knot it it tied up in.

Okay, crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:difference between mormons and mainstream christianity is that everything in the old testament that can be factually vetted has been proven to be true. historians accept the basic scenario - only question is the miracles and the resurrection.

Aren't the miracles and the resurrection "the basic scenario," to believers? Without them, there's not much of a religion.

Smith didn't find the gold tablets. Mary didn't have a virgin pregnancy and Jesus didn't return to life. However, Jesus lived and so did Smith. Each is bits of history with huge doses of "faith," i.e., baseless belief in silly stuff.

Like others here, I've had great experiences with several mormons - model citizens, if not for the religiosity and the Republicanism.

Mit Romney does have the blackest helmet of velvety hair I have ever seen on a white man. He seems nice.

So, he can convert people after death with his under wear? Is that you panty-sniffer poster?

[Anonymous]

Tell us more about the baptisms of the dead. That is a mormon ceremony that always has intrigued me.

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Anonymous wrote:difference between mormons and mainstream christianity is that everything in the old testament that can be factually vetted has been proven to be true. historians accept the basic scenario - only question is the miracles and the resurrection.
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Totally false. Everything in the old testament has been disputed by historians. It depends on which historian you believe.

actually that was a typo. I meant to say "NEW" testament. big mistake, I realize. that said, much of the history in the Old testament is accurate too.

You are fucking stupid if you believe that. Jesus, even a cursory reading of wikipedia would dispel this notion, let alone reading any academic literature on the the subject.

nice response. much of the old testament is historically accurate, not all. things like Moses and the Exodus, the Great Flood, etc., are all based on ancient events. It is practically pre-history though, so tougher to debate. the new testament is much easier since it is all historical record.

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Anonymous wrote:Magic underwear?? Explain.

Can someone please explain 'keeping kosher' to me, as well?

This from a gentile, so feel free to correct me: kosher is a series of rules about food. No pork, obviously. Shellfish and bottom-feeding fish are also unclean. The tricky one is not to cook the calf in its mother's milk-- so mixing of meat and dairy is forbidden. I knew one gal who had to wait 2 hours (she checked her watch) before eating a piece of chocolate after dinner, because chocolate contains milk, and she already had meat in her stomach from dinner. I know a couple more devout Jews who are vegetarians, just to avoid any possibility of mixing meat and dairy. Others keep two fridges, two sets of dishes, two pantries, etc, for the same purpose.

During Passover, the rules get stricter. No leavened bread (nothing with yeast), and everything must be certified kosher by a rabbincal authority. The kitchen must be ritually cleaned beore Passover, to remove any traces of non-kosher food, and then re-stocked with only kosher-for-passover items.

Did I get that right?

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Anonymous wrote:Magic underwear?? Explain.

Can someone please explain 'keeping kosher' to me, as well?

This from a gentile, so feel free to correct me: kosher is a series of rules about food. No pork, obviously. Shellfish and bottom-feeding fish are also unclean. The tricky one is not to cook the calf in its mother's milk-- so mixing of meat and dairy is forbidden. I knew one gal who had to wait 2 hours (she checked her watch) before eating a piece of chocolate after dinner, because chocolate contains milk, and she already had meat in her stomach from dinner. I know a couple more devout Jews who are vegetarians, just to avoid any possibility of mixing meat and dairy. Others keep two fridges, two sets of dishes, two pantries, etc, for the same purpose.

During Passover, the rules get stricter. No leavened bread (nothing with yeast), and everything must be certified kosher by a rabbincal authority. The kitchen must be ritually cleaned beore Passover, to remove any traces of non-kosher food, and then re-stocked with only kosher-for-passover items.

Did I get that right?

These rules made sense in biblical times because of the lack of refrigeration and the abominable uncleanliness of a pig's sty--hence the expression.

Even today, there are children throughout the US, people are still afflicted with trichinosis: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001752.htm

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Anonymous wrote:Did I get that right?

Animals must also be slaughtered in a particular way - bleeding to death, basically. It's pretty horrific.

[Anonymous]

Mit Romney does have the blackest helmet of velvety hair I have ever seen on a white man. He seems nice.

So, he can convert people after death with his under wear? Is that you panty-sniffer poster?

just spit out my wine

[Anonymous]

Well, if there were any Mormons here they're gone now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:difference between mormons and mainstream christianity is that everything in the old testament that can be factually vetted has been proven to be true. historians accept the basic scenario - only question is the miracles and the resurrection.

all of the facts in the book of mormon, however, have been proven to be false. the lost tribe of israel, the archaeology, etc. it is fantasy.

as for the miracles - the jesus miracles took place 2,000 years ago, so it is hard to know either way. Joseph Smith was 150 years ago and a convicted felon for fraud before he get started.

lastly, almost EVERY religion was started by someone who was in it for the money or the chicks. Christianity is one of the few that was not.

Not L. Ron. He really is a 3,000 year old Super-Thetan. And Jesus was bi, obviously.

Don't forget Muhammad the Thief and pedophile. Now he's got a bunch of Jesus looking polygamists finding new and creative ways to sever heads off live bodies for the glory of Islam and the promise of 40 virgins..

How old was the Virgin Mary again? Even 100 or so years ago young girls ( 12 and 13 yr olds) were getting married in this country.
Nowhere in the Quran does it say you are getting 72 virgins. You are talking about a hadith that has no "Sanad", or chain of narration it's considered weak. Are we going to talk about the violence in the bible? I once read something encouraging the killing of women and children.

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Also it's not even clear if the word was Virgins.
Some claim the definition of the Arabic word "Abkarun" is not virgins, but Angels.