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Anonymous
What?! Does the genius who posted this care to elaborate? Like, do you mean that becoming crippled from polio isn't "actual" harm but is pretend harm? Or maybe you meant being crippled isn't actually harmful but is fun! How about all the men who were rendered sterile after having the mumps as kids? Meningitis: No harm! Par-teeee, bitches! well anyway, I will look forward to hearing how just a few people are harmed from the myriad diseases prevented by vaccines. |
Anonymous
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Go ask Haiti how they view vaccines. I bet there aren't a bunch of know-it-all moms talking about how most of the time cholera isn't lethal, and how they heard of a kid who died from the vaccine.
How do you say "Down with big pharma" in Kreyol? |
Anonymous
You can't compare living conditions in Haiti with living conditions here so the comparison is irrelevant. If I were living in a tent and peeing in a ditch along side thousands of others I would be concerned. |
Anonymous
Why are you so rude if you think you're right? |
Anonymous
Fair enough. What is relevant is the rate of illness in an unvaccinated population and the cost of that illness, vs. the cost of side effects. Not so long ago parents were begging for something to be done about illnesses like polio, whooping cough, and measles. Now that there are vaccines, we pretend like this never happened. Do we think that our great grandparents and grandparents were idiots? No,. The truth is that the problem in front of them was more significant to them as parents than the posters here will admit. Posters here throw out anecdotes like candy, and they don't seem to understand the problem with that. They have no appreciation of the statistical odds of coincidence, and they think that they can use motherly common sense to see cause and effect. Oh, so and so's autism symptoms occurred a week after his vaccinations. Surely the vaccine is the cause. OR maybe children get vaccinated roughly every 13 weeks at that age, and so the odds of autism onset falling within two weeks of a vaccination is roughly 2/13 or 15%. So guess what, when they study the onset of autism vs. vaccination dates this is exactly what happens. The cases are spread evenly. They are not clumped around vaccination dates. But who cares as long as you can read a story of a parent whose child's symptoms began right after the vaccination? And when researchers compare children who are vaccinated earlier vs. later, shouldn't the onset of symptoms be earlier overall in the first group? Yes, but they aren't. Age of onset is the same in both cases. But it doesn't matter, because someone has a personal story and they have to make sense of the tragedy that befell them, and so they point to the vaccine. I understand the temptation. But the data tells a different story, and it is a stronger story. |
Anonymous
which of course then makes your child even more susceptible to having chicken pox as an adult. |
Anonymous
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It's funny that you mention "cost of illness". Do you realize how much it costs to have an autistic child (therapies, medication, schooling, testing, doctors apts, care takers, funding an account to make sure they are always taken care of)?
Siezure disorders are a side-effect. I'm not making it up, it's on the insert of the vaccine box. Yet when these things happen, it's NOT the vaccine? How the hell not? A kid who doesn't have seizures before vaccines suddenly has seizures and it's just coincidence? I don't understand you people. You don't think that a life-long side-effect is as costly as a week of the flu? WTF??? |
Anonymous
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Check out all these vaccine cases going to court....
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/opinions_decisions_vaccine/Unpublished |
Anonymous
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OP here.....
The 10 year-old boy who died 8 days after receiving Gardasil, Menactra, TDaP, and HepA vaccines received 780 mcg of Aluminum, 8.06 mcg of formaldehyde, 330 mcg of phenoxyethanol, and 50 mcg of polysorbate 80, in addition to 12 vaccine antigens injected simultaneously. Can anyone show me ONE SINGLE STUDY that says this ...is safe? or effective? or necessary? or rational? WHY IS IT LEGAL?? |
Anonymous
Yes, my sister works for an autism center. But if vaccines don't cause them, that doesn't count. The preponderance of evidence is against the hypothesis. I never said that a seizure is definitively not caused by the vaccine. But you can't take a VAERS report and make a conclusion that it was caused by vaccines, either. 1 in 25 people will have a seizure in their lifetimes, and most of them will be kids. Maybe YOU people should not be pulling VAERS reports and writing "another one bites the dust" (which is disrespectful to the child who died, but who cares when you are on a crusade?), calling it truth and then hand-selecting guardasil as the cause among the many vaccines the child received. How on earth did the OP decide it was Guardasil? The answer is that she does not like the vaccine. And that is exactly the problem with many of these anti-vax posts. Politics does not equal science. |
Anonymous
Seizure risk is also in the package insert for Advil. I'm not making that up, either. But do you fear Advil? |