"I wanna be one less"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seizures are a very common vaccine side-effect. Yet when a child starts suffering seizures, the docs say it is an underlying condition.

An alligator bites your arm off. The arm is sitting in the alligators mouth, but still it's a coincidence that your arm just happened to "fall off" and into the mouth of an alligator?

Our society has become brainless.

I totally agree with this. Both of my DC are vaccinated -- except for chicken pox. When I try to discuss the need for chicken pox vaccination I cannot believe the stupid "arguments" made for them to get it. It's disappointing that the medical community believes more in doctrine than in reality. They will tow the party line about vaccines No. Matter. What.

You know, it's all so personal (probably why this thread has become so means so quickly). I had chicken pox as an adult and was extremely ill (needing hospitalized) so I made it a priority to get my kids vaccinated with that one! But I also know people with Guillan-Barre disease so don't like to get the flu shots.

Of course, it's important to look at data, but when you have personal experiences it can make the small statistics seem not so small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That's how you, OP, know for sure that this kid didn't have an undiagnosed, undetected serious medical condition like an arrythmia that actually killed him. Because, no kid ever has that. No, no they don't.


And he just happened to die right after his multiple vaccines? OK, you're not too smart. If many people have a loaded gun in their system (undetected serious medical condition) then Vaccines = TRIGGER. Vaccinating is like playing russion roulette.

So would playing football, basketball and distance running.

Please embark on a public service campaign to HALT all vigorous exercise among ALL CHILDREN AND ADULTS so that the tiny % with undetected misshapen hearts do not die when they go out for track in 7th grade. Vigorous exercise is a loaded gun for this infintesmial portion of the US population. Therefore, no child or adult should ever engage in vigorous cardio exercise. It's a TRIGGER.

Strange you don't feel the same way about the small percentage of people who would be harmed by the actual diseases we vaccinate against if they got them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Strange you don't feel the same way about the small percentage of people who would be harmed by the actual diseases we vaccinate against if they got them.

Why is it strange? People will get diseases and die throughout our history...always. Even vaccinated people get diseases and die. My son got the MMR vaccine AND got intestinal measles from the vaccine. So we got vaccinated and got the disease, and intestinal measles (bowel disease) is much longer and much more dangerous than getting a quick bout of the measles, which looking back, I would have preferred. Look at the so called Whooping Cough outbreak...you cannot sit there and tell me that every one of those cases is in unvaccinated kids. In fact, most of those kids have had the vaccine at least twice, maybe three times. At what point doe the vaccines actually work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That's how you, OP, know for sure that this kid didn't have an undiagnosed, undetected serious medical condition like an arrythmia that actually killed him. Because, no kid ever has that. No, no they don't.


And he just happened to die right after his multiple vaccines? OK, you're not too smart. If many people have a loaded gun in their system (undetected serious medical condition) then Vaccines = TRIGGER. Vaccinating is like playing russion roulette.

So would playing football, basketball and distance running.

Please embark on a public service campaign to HALT all vigorous exercise among ALL CHILDREN AND ADULTS so that the tiny % with undetected misshapen hearts do not die when they go out for track in 7th grade. Vigorous exercise is a loaded gun for this infintesmial portion of the US population. Therefore, no child or adult should ever engage in vigorous cardio exercise. It's a TRIGGER.

Strange you don't feel the same way about the small percentage of people who would be harmed by the actual diseases we vaccinate against if they got them.

So it's OK that this kid died because he sacrificed himself for herd immunity? You wouldn't think this way if you were his parent. I will never sacrifice my children for the better good....there is NO GOOD in that at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Strange you don't feel the same way about the small percentage of people who would be harmed by the actual diseases we vaccinate against if they got them.

Why is it strange?

Because people don't understand that just because you get a vax, it doesn't mean you won't get the disease. And the people who do understand it, want to babble about this "herd immunity" while not fully understanding what that really means- as in, the history of how the concept came to be. Here's a hint- it had NOTHING to do with vaccines.

[Anonymous]

I am the poster who wrote "strange you don't feel the same way about the small percentage of people who would be harmed by the actual diseases we vaccinate against." What i meant was, the PP was saying that not vaccinating was as stupid as not letting children play sports, because SOME could die. I was pointing out that the argument could also be made about the diseases we vaccinate against -- only a small amount of people who contract the diseases are actually harmed, so why vaccinate at all if you have that kind of cavalier mentality?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster who wrote "strange you don't feel the same way about the small percentage of people who would be harmed by the actual diseases we vaccinate against." What i meant was, the PP was saying that not vaccinating was as stupid as not letting children play sports, because SOME could die. I was pointing out that the argument could also be made about the diseases we vaccinate against -- only a small amount of people who contract the diseases are actually harmed, so why vaccinate at all if you have that kind of cavalier mentality?

Gotcha...sorry for the misunderstanding...I get you now!! And agree!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seizures are a very common vaccine side-effect. Yet when a child starts suffering seizures, the docs say it is an underlying condition.

An alligator bites your arm off. The arm is sitting in the alligators mouth, but still it's a coincidence that your arm just happened to "fall off" and into the mouth of an alligator?

Our society has become brainless.

I totally agree with this. Both of my DC are vaccinated -- except for chicken pox. When I try to discuss the need for chicken pox vaccination I cannot believe the stupid "arguments" made for them to get it. It's disappointing that the medical community believes more in doctrine than in reality. They will tow the party line about vaccines No. Matter. What.

You know, it's all so personal (probably why this thread has become so means so quickly). I had chicken pox as an adult and was extremely ill (needing hospitalized) so I made it a priority to get my kids vaccinated with that one! But I also know people with Guillan-Barre disease so don't like to get the flu shots.

Of course, it's important to look at data, but when you have personal experiences it can make the small statistics seem not so small.

I knew someone would post this. This is a perfect example of the faulty logic I am talking about. The reason this is not a logical argument to make to a parent trying to decide about vaccinating is that the disease can be HARMFUL to a small percentage of adults and young teens but NOT to small children. I do not have an adult child. I have a young child (like everyone who faces chicken pox vaccinations on the schedule) whom I may vaccinate if they get to the age when chicken pox could be a serious disease and they have not been exposed to it yet. But not now -- because it is not dangerous for them to get it as a young child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seizures are a very common vaccine side-effect. Yet when a child starts suffering seizures, the docs say it is an underlying condition.

An alligator bites your arm off. The arm is sitting in the alligators mouth, but still it's a coincidence that your arm just happened to "fall off" and into the mouth of an alligator?

Our society has become brainless.

I totally agree with this. Both of my DC are vaccinated -- except for chicken pox. When I try to discuss the need for chicken pox vaccination I cannot believe the stupid "arguments" made for them to get it. It's disappointing that the medical community believes more in doctrine than in reality. They will tow the party line about vaccines No. Matter. What.

You know, it's all so personal (probably why this thread has become so means so quickly). I had chicken pox as an adult and was extremely ill (needing hospitalized) so I made it a priority to get my kids vaccinated with that one! But I also know people with Guillan-Barre disease so don't like to get the flu shots.

Of course, it's important to look at data, but when you have personal experiences it can make the small statistics seem not so small.

I knew someone would post this. This is a perfect example of the faulty logic I am talking about. The reason this is not a logical argument to make to a parent trying to decide about vaccinating is that the disease can be HARMFUL to a small percentage of adults and young teens but NOT to small children. I do not have an adult child. I have a young child (like everyone who faces chicken pox vaccinations on the schedule) whom I may vaccinate if they get to the age when chicken pox could be a serious disease and they have not been exposed to it yet. But not now -- because it is not dangerous for them to get it as a young child.

Actually it is dangerous to some children. But I won't use capitals to emphasize that. Oh, okay, I will ... it IS dangerous to some children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seizures are a very common vaccine side-effect. Yet when a child starts suffering seizures, the docs say it is an underlying condition.

An alligator bites your arm off. The arm is sitting in the alligators mouth, but still it's a coincidence that your arm just happened to "fall off" and into the mouth of an alligator?

Our society has become brainless.

I totally agree with this. Both of my DC are vaccinated -- except for chicken pox. When I try to discuss the need for chicken pox vaccination I cannot believe the stupid "arguments" made for them to get it. It's disappointing that the medical community believes more in doctrine than in reality. They will tow the party line about vaccines No. Matter. What.

You know, it's all so personal (probably why this thread has become so means so quickly). I had chicken pox as an adult and was extremely ill (needing hospitalized) so I made it a priority to get my kids vaccinated with that one! But I also know people with Guillan-Barre disease so don't like to get the flu shots.

Of course, it's important to look at data, but when you have personal experiences it can make the small statistics seem not so small.

I knew someone would post this. This is a perfect example of the faulty logic I am talking about. The reason this is not a logical argument to make to a parent trying to decide about vaccinating is that the disease can be HARMFUL to a small percentage of adults and young teens but NOT to small children. I do not have an adult child. I have a young child (like everyone who faces chicken pox vaccinations on the schedule) whom I may vaccinate if they get to the age when chicken pox could be a serious disease and they have not been exposed to it yet. But not now -- because it is not dangerous for them to get it as a young child.

Actually it is dangerous to some children. But I won't use capitals to emphasize that. Oh, okay, I will ... it IS dangerous to some children.

Less dangerous than sports. Way less. Way than crossing the street. (And you and I and everyone on this board knows it.)

[Anonymous]

Hmmm.....so dangerous that when you get the vaccine, it causes multiple cases of Chicken Pox? I know a handfull of mothers who wished they never vaccinated because instead of getting chicken pox once and for all, their children keep getting it. So the antibodies haven't kicked out the virus, but instead the virus is still in the system and flaring when the immune system gets overworked. This is how shingles works as well. People who don't get the Chicken Pox vaccine at least have a chance of not getting this horrid virus in their system. Getting the shot is a 100% chance of getting it in your system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seizures are a very common vaccine side-effect. Yet when a child starts suffering seizures, the docs say it is an underlying condition.

An alligator bites your arm off. The arm is sitting in the alligators mouth, but still it's a coincidence that your arm just happened to "fall off" and into the mouth of an alligator?

Our society has become brainless.

I think you should look in the mirror when you say brainless.

Vaccines are far from the most common cause of seizures. However I can't think of many caUses of a human arm falling off in plain view into an alligator's mouth, other than an alligator bite.

[Anonymous]

Thistgread
makes me wish that science proficieNcy tests were required before procreation. Too many lit majors, too little science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thistgread
makes me wish that science proficieNcy tests were required before procreation. Too many lit majors, too little science.

Throw in some typing genes while you're at it.

[Anonymous]

Spoken like an actual lit major. Yes, I always secretly wanted to be a secretary. I suppose that typos are probably as painful to you as reading nonscientific vaccine posts is to me.

So I'll make you a deal. I will mind my two's, to's, and too's if you make sure that vaccine posts draw conclusions from actual study data.