I’m on Team Pairings! |
+1 Appears to pertain to peer quality/outcomes/academics more than USnews. |
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Leaving out the academies, these are the Top 10 publics they list.
U Michigan UCLA UC Berkeley UVa UNC Georgia Tech U Texas Austin U Florida UCSD William and Mary |
| Really ? Because I hate them all. So subjective |
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the ranking is more accurate if you break down by categories. someone did the top 10 publics above, but here are the top 10 privates and LACs:
Harvard Stanford UPenn Yale MIT Princeton Duke Columbia UChicago Dartmouth Williams Amherst Pomona Swarthmore CMC Harvey Mudd Wellesley Bowdoin Middlebury Colgate |
The top schools are the top schools. Different rankings, pretty much the same schools. Apply to them and give it a shot! |
Because the high-quality UG education leads to excellent outcomes, not a mystery. |
A&S and Engineering are top because the students are very motivated to get good career outcomes and grad school admissions. A&S has top medicine, business, and law grads. |
Penn is great, but it’s no MIT or Princeton overall. |
Is any other country as obsessed with rankings as the US? Seriously, in a country of 345 million people, how much different is school #8 from school #20. It's splitting hairs. |
JHU and Northwestern are T10, not Columbia or Dartmouth. |
| Columbia is definitely a top 10 and if the ranking is undergrad focused, Dartmouth is definitely a stronger academic school than NU or JHU. |
You're OK with me, my friend. |
I like this list bcs it adds the two together. We have almost exclusively lists that don't. To do separate seems to me to deflate wasp and inflate Colgate etc a #10 LAC is just not comparable to a t20 university in outcomes or resources or even faculty. |
Haha, US is nothing compared to China, South Korea, and Singapore. In Shanghai and Beijing, one way for someone not from these cities to obtain certification as a "local resident" (which comes with several perks) is to graduate from a short list of less than 100 top global universities based on QS/Times/US News. In Singapore where elitism is out of control, it's not Ivy or bust, it's Oxbridge/HYPSM or bust. They thumb their nose at UPenn, Duke, and Columbia. Folks in the US are much more reasonable and level-headed. |