Montgomery County At-Large - help me choose

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Anonymous wrote:Erlich is horrible. Just horrible. The fact he will likely be back on the Council is a testament to the ignorance for voters

Maybe, just maybe, you should try to understand why Elrich appeals to so many voters. It has nothing to do with those voters being ignorant.

Can you explain it to me? I’m a lifelong Montgomery County resident and a liberal Democrat and I have never understood it.

Sure. Lots of Montgomery County voters don't want upzoning. Sure, if there's a big empty plot of land near a metro station, go ahead and build an apartment building there (see White Flint). But in neighborhoods full of single family homes, people don't want a bunch of quadplexes and townhouses on their street. And they don't understand how demolishing SFHs that cost $600K, and building townhomes that cost $900K, helps the affordability problem. Finally, they understand that our roads and schools are already stressed, and so we need to be careful about the development that happens.

Just read through Elrich's newsletters, and you'll see that Elrich thoughtfully addresses everything I mentioned above (and much more):
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/news?search=&fromDate=&toDate=&category=&department=&newsType=257&page=0

The YIMBYs can yell, scream and belittle the Elrich supporters all they want. It is not going to change the fact that it's a significant voting block. And no they're not ignorant just because they believe that unchecked development and endless incentives to developers are not good for the county.

This is a common NIMBY talking point. Nobody is actively trying to demolish all single-family housing in the county. The kind of development you mentioned above as good development is development that YIMBYs on the council support and NIMBYs on the council oppose.

This is a common YIMBY disingenuous misdirection. PP did not talk about demolishing all single family housing. PP did talk about allowing higher densities, the undesirability of that for existing resident neighbors and the infrastructure problems increased by that development, with individual lower-cost SFHs sacrificed for those builds and effective giveaways from the common wealth (incentives mentioned, but could simply be the socialization of burden to privatize benefit represented by such allowances).

And who are these NIMBYs on the council, anyway? Has anyone successfully defended any of Elrich's positions as CE against the YIMBY crowd?

Jawando and Mink. Possibly Katz?

Laughable. Anti-giveaway isn't exactly NIMBY, and none of what they ever did involved more than signaling. Mink was pretty much against only the U Blvd plan, which is where her district was vocally in opposition.

And Katz never seemed to do anything either way on the subject besides throw up his hands and ask, "What else are we supposed to do?" when always voting with the more aggressive/vocal YIMBY majority.

Before I engage with you further, could you please explain if you consider yourself generally a NIMBY or if you wouldn’t necessarily say that but merely have problems with implementation on a local level?

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Anonymous wrote:Erlich is horrible. Just horrible. The fact he will likely be back on the Council is a testament to the ignorance for voters

Maybe, just maybe, you should try to understand why Elrich appeals to so many voters. It has nothing to do with those voters being ignorant.

Can you explain it to me? I’m a lifelong Montgomery County resident and a liberal Democrat and I have never understood it.

Sure. Lots of Montgomery County voters don't want upzoning. Sure, if there's a big empty plot of land near a metro station, go ahead and build an apartment building there (see White Flint). But in neighborhoods full of single family homes, people don't want a bunch of quadplexes and townhouses on their street. And they don't understand how demolishing SFHs that cost $600K, and building townhomes that cost $900K, helps the affordability problem. Finally, they understand that our roads and schools are already stressed, and so we need to be careful about the development that happens.

Just read through Elrich's newsletters, and you'll see that Elrich thoughtfully addresses everything I mentioned above (and much more):
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/news?search=&fromDate=&toDate=&category=&department=&newsType=257&page=0

The YIMBYs can yell, scream and belittle the Elrich supporters all they want. It is not going to change the fact that it's a significant voting block. And no they're not ignorant just because they believe that unchecked development and endless incentives to developers are not good for the county.

Nobody wants to voluntarily listen to that bloviator.

Give him credit now, he's a bloviator with brains.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who will cut spending? No more taxes. Inflation is crushing us. The county wants more and more tax money from income and property.

Our salaries never go up of course. On top of that, they want all this massive housing development junk that is going to ruin neighborhoods by building huge multi hundred room apartment buildings in or around neighborhoods. They want to destroy your SFH you worked your entire life for while increasing your taxes.

Im so done. Tell me who are the candidates who will do exactly opposite of what the current council does. Who do I need to vote in to serve as poison pillss to gum up the entire council? They need to cut jobs, increase county employee contributions to Healthcare and pensions, freeze pay hikes, and even layoff many more staff. Infinite tax increases so that they can increase their salaries while everyone around them are getting laid off is unpalatable.

I agree 100%. Please do tell us who might fit the bill. I am underwater at work and have almost no time to do my hw on this.

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[quote=Anonymous]McNulty and Goldberg. Silvestre is okay but she and McNulty both likely up for that 4th seat and he’s the better candidate of the two.[/quote]

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