DCI or Stuart Hobson for anxious child

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

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So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

NP. I’m not the PP but many kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th who go on to selective schools take a test for math placement and many end up repeating Algebra 1 in 9th.

This also applies to privates where they have to go down a level in math based on testing.

Math is just weak in DCPS. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.

If you think math is weak in dcps you should look into how science and English are taught there as well. Honestly it’s like a race to the bottom. Don’t know about DCI, but Stuart Hobson (dcps generally) has an incredibly weak curriculum. There are smart kids in dcps but dcps just doesn’t cater to them. If your kid would prefer a remedial curriculum I would close Stuart Hobson.

Choose not close. I would choose Stuart Hobson if you prefer a slower, below grade level pace.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

Still waiting for the angry anti-SH poster to answer these questions.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

NP. I’m not the PP but many kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th who go on to selective schools take a test for math placement and many end up repeating Algebra 1 in 9th.

This also applies to privates where they have to go down a level in math based on testing.

Math is just weak in DCPS. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.

I'm guessing the kids scoring 4+ on the Algebra I CAPE are not in that camp.

70% of S-H students got a 4+.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

Still waiting for the angry anti-SH poster to answer these questions.

Cluster parent and new thread poster here. They can't, all they can do is repeat the same B.S. over and over because they have an insanely fragile ego. It seems that their self-worth is defined by them being a "better than" and as such they cannot handle that SH is on an upswing. The frequency and sometimes manic construction of the posts show a truly unhealthy obsession with it. No one is saying SH is rivaling one of the Big Three privates, but it's becoming a very solid neighborhood MS option, and there is real excitement about that. We know several high-performing families enrolled for next year. It has to be a sad existence where you are constantly going out of your way to repeatedly inject unwarranted and often false negativity.

[Anonymous]

Our DC is headed to SH next year. They are a high performing kid and are excited about all of the ECs at the school. We will be keeping an eye on the level of the work and will likely keep supplementing if it’s not rigorous enough but our family is very excited about the school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

NP. I’m not the PP but many kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th who go on to selective schools take a test for math placement and many end up repeating Algebra 1 in 9th.

This also applies to privates where they have to go down a level in math based on testing.

Math is just weak in DCPS. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.

I'm guessing the kids scoring 4+ on the Algebra I CAPE are not in that camp.

70% of S-H students got a 4+.

Sorry but so many families in DCPS are supplementing in math. That is the closed door secret no one is telling you. Be prepared to do so to get that grade level 4.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

NP. I’m not the PP but many kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th who go on to selective schools take a test for math placement and many end up repeating Algebra 1 in 9th.

This also applies to privates where they have to go down a level in math based on testing.

Math is just weak in DCPS. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.

I'm guessing the kids scoring 4+ on the Algebra I CAPE are not in that camp.

70% of S-H students got a 4+.

Sorry but so many families in DCPS are supplementing in math. That is the closed door secret no one is telling you. Be prepared to do so to get that grade level 4.

All 632 middle schoolers with a 4+ in Algebra I or Geometry are supplementing. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is headed to SH next year. They are a high performing kid and are excited about all of the ECs at the school. We will be keeping an eye on the level of the work and will likely keep supplementing if it’s not rigorous enough but our family is very excited about the school.

I've been browsing this site for more than a decade now, and the conversations around SH really remind me of the conversations around Hardy 10 years ago. Snowballing effect of more families opting in and the school stepping up to meet the needs to high achieving students.

I dont live in that area and my kids are on a different middle/high track, but we have friends at SH and the kids seem completely happy, challenged by the variety of ECs and projects (like the "climate symposium?") and will be fine ramping up when they get to high school.

SH getting stronger is a great thing for the city.

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Anonymous wrote:Stuart-Hobson offers the standard math classes that are available at all other DCPS middle schools.

They also let kids take geometry online now (including at least one 7th grader). The incoming class looks strong and I predict geometry is offered in person by the time they leave and fills at least one full class.

I’ve heard this lie repeated over and over. I asked directly at open houses. It’s not going to happen. Just stop repeating the lie. Dcps is committed to offering the lowest math track in the entire DC region.

There was literally an admitted students night yesterday where the availability of online geometry right now was confirmed. The in person offering is my speculation, but I bet I’m correct. Check back in 2 years.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

NP. I’m not the PP but many kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th who go on to selective schools take a test for math placement and many end up repeating Algebra 1 in 9th.

This also applies to privates where they have to go down a level in math based on testing.

Math is just weak in DCPS. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.

I'm guessing the kids scoring 4+ on the Algebra I CAPE are not in that camp.

70% of S-H students got a 4+.

Sorry but so many families in DCPS are supplementing in math. That is the closed door secret no one is telling you. Be prepared to do so to get that grade level 4.

All 632 middle schoolers with a 4+ in Algebra I or Geometry are supplementing. Got it.

No idea where you got number above because the whole school is about 483 kids and 32% kids 4+ and on grade level and up, not 70%. That’s about 154 kids across 3 grades so 50 kids on average per grade on grade level.

https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/lea/1/school/428/report#measure-100

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

NP. I’m not the PP but many kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th who go on to selective schools take a test for math placement and many end up repeating Algebra 1 in 9th.

This also applies to privates where they have to go down a level in math based on testing.

Math is just weak in DCPS. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.

I'm guessing the kids scoring 4+ on the Algebra I CAPE are not in that camp.

70% of S-H students got a 4+.

Sorry but so many families in DCPS are supplementing in math. That is the closed door secret no one is telling you. Be prepared to do so to get that grade level 4.

All 632 middle schoolers with a 4+ in Algebra I or Geometry are supplementing. Got it.

No idea where you got number above because the whole school is about 483 kids and 32% kids 4+ and on grade level and up, not 70%. That’s about 154 kids across 3 grades so 50 kids on average per grade on grade level.

https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/lea/1/school/428/report#measure-100

They were looking at the advanced student data across the city... You totally missed their point.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

NP. I’m not the PP but many kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th who go on to selective schools take a test for math placement and many end up repeating Algebra 1 in 9th.

This also applies to privates where they have to go down a level in math based on testing.

Math is just weak in DCPS. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.

I'm guessing the kids scoring 4+ on the Algebra I CAPE are not in that camp.

70% of S-H students got a 4+.

Sorry but so many families in DCPS are supplementing in math. That is the closed door secret no one is telling you. Be prepared to do so to get that grade level 4.

All 632 middle schoolers with a 4+ in Algebra I or Geometry are supplementing. Got it.

No idea where you got number above because the whole school is about 483 kids and 32% kids 4+ and on grade level and up, not 70%. That’s about 154 kids across 3 grades so 50 kids on average per grade on grade level.

https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/lea/1/school/428/report#measure-100

PP said "families in DCPS." 632 middle schoolers across DCPS scored 4+ in Algebra I or Geometry in SY24-25. 39 from S-H.

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That’s incredibly low

There is no angry Stuart Hobson poster. There are people who rightly want more from their I bound option. I am personally tired of people distorting the facts and pretending that Stuart Hobson is an acceptable choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is headed to SH next year. They are a high performing kid and are excited about all of the ECs at the school. We will be keeping an eye on the level of the work and will likely keep supplementing if it’s not rigorous enough but our family is very excited about the school.

I've been browsing this site for more than a decade now, and the conversations around SH really remind me of the conversations around Hardy 10 years ago. Snowballing effect of more families opting in and the school stepping up to meet the needs to high achieving students.

I dont live in that area and my kids are on a different middle/high track, but we have friends at SH and the kids seem completely happy, challenged by the variety of ECs and projects (like the "climate symposium?") and will be fine ramping up when they get to high school.

SH getting stronger is a great thing for the city.

I could not agree more. Stuart Hobson getting stronger is a wonderful thing!

But it’s still a weak, weak school that is failing the smart kids of DC. And lying about statistics (see above for example) and pretending like kids don’t need serious supplementation and outside extra curricular activities isn’t making it stronger. This only serves OSSE and the crazy boosters who care more about their property values going up than children. Stuart Hobson is not a good school, neither is Eliot Hine, neither is Jefferson and that extends to every other dcps middle. Dc needs to do more for their children.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m not familiar with DCI, but am intimately acquainted with Stuart-Hobson since I work there. Like most middle schools, it has its challenges (hallway transitions can be noisy, DCPS mandates don’t always make sense) but it’s a solid school with a large cohort of high-performing kids and increasing buy-in from families who live in boundary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of girls at Stuart-Hobson who sound similar to your daughter, and they are having good experiences at the school. Advanced course offerings in math, award-winning extracurricular activities, an incredible school library, and most importantly, solid teachers with classroom management experience.

However, Stuart-Hobson can’t compete with DCI when it comes to language offerings, so I w

Sent too soon!

So I would go for DCI if she wants to continue advancing in her second language.

DCI has way more advance offerings in math. SH math is not advance, it’s basically grade level.

This is not true. The math at Stuart Hobson is the lowest, most remedial math track possible for middle school. When you leave for high school your child will be de facto placed in the lowest and slowest math track.

It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just repeating the same claim over and over again. What makes it so low? What level are they teaching and why is this bad/wrong? What should they be doing? Do other DCPS middles do it differently?

Still waiting for the angry anti-SH poster to answer these questions.

I genuinely don’t know who you’re addressing with this post but I agree that the curriculum is poor in all dcps middles and high schools and I suggest you visit an open house for the answer to your questions.