GOP Congress proposes a tax on drivers not polluting the air.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only thing to do is to charge by mile for all cars and trucks. You could do this by annual inspections or use the existing surveillance systems set up by the police to calculate miles drives.

Some states have already started use license plate readers to calculate time and distance. If the calculation show you exceed the speed limit between to readers you are issued a ticket. So the technology is already there.

Maybe send out the bill quarterly for all cars- EV, gas, hydrogen, diesel, whatever.

What a horrible system. I doubt majority of Americans want to live in constant 24-7 surveillance state where even personal vehicle ownership and usage is tightly controlled by the government. I wonder how much of this nonsense people are willing to accept.

Also, I've driven through Italy which has this avg speed calculation system where they figure out if you were speeding based on how fast you get from one scanner to another. But this system is faulty too, because if you slow down anywhere in between the checkpoints your avg speed drops. It really doesn't prevent dangerous type of speeding that kills people, it's simply a fee extraction system for the naive. Someone can drive recklessly part of the way only to have to slow down due to traffic and will never get a ticket. Or they can make up the speed if they were stuck in traffic by speeding later, the avg. speed is still legit and won't result in a ticket, but they'd get there faster than if they followed posted speed all the way since they made up for the slowdown.

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Anonymous wrote:GOP Congress proposes a tax on drivers not polluting the air, charging EV drivers more than gas-buening drivers.

https://insideevs.com/news/796222/ev-fee-gas-tax-house-bill-2026/

Why do Republicans hate humanity?

They wish Soylent Green was a documentary rather than a work of dystopian fiction. And they want people not just to suffer but also pay for their suffering.

God, you people are such drama queens. It's already been explained to you that this was a bipartisan proposal and that EV drivers use the same roads as everyone else. But do take to your fainting couches, as usual.

So why is the proposed EV tax double what the average driver would pay in federal gas taxes? That is not factoring in the average EV drivers actually drive less miles per year.

Does not sound fair at all. By this logic a car getting 25 mpg should have to pay a fee vs a car or truck with 15 mpg. The federal tax is a tax on gas per gallon. If you drive a car that gets more miles per gallons you are cheating the system.

This. There is no logic here, like PP describes, because non EV cars with great fuel economy pay less in gas taxes than gas guzzlers but aren't subjected to any extra tax despite driving the same number of miles on the same roads.

Our country must be in big trouble financially if the government is looking for ways like this to make money. Or the foxes have really taken over the henhouse and it’s the latest way to play Sheriff of Nottingham. We’re so in debt and fxked they now have to count our mileage and charge us? A century ago would they have charge someone an extra year ax for two instead of one horse for their carriage?

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Anonymous wrote:GOP Congress proposes a tax on drivers not polluting the air, charging EV drivers more than gas-buening drivers.

https://insideevs.com/news/796222/ev-fee-gas-tax-house-bill-2026/

Why do Republicans hate humanity?

They wish Soylent Green was a documentary rather than a work of dystopian fiction. And they want people not just to suffer but also pay for their suffering.

God, you people are such drama queens. It's already been explained to you that this was a bipartisan proposal and that EV drivers use the same roads as everyone else. But do take to your fainting couches, as usual.

So why is the proposed EV tax double what the average driver would pay in federal gas taxes? That is not factoring in the average EV drivers actually drive less miles per year.

Does not sound fair at all. By this logic a car getting 25 mpg should have to pay a fee vs a car or truck with 15 mpg. The federal tax is a tax on gas per gallon. If you drive a car that gets more miles per gallons you are cheating the system.

This. There is no logic here, like PP describes, because non EV cars with great fuel economy pay less in gas taxes than gas guzzlers but aren't subjected to any extra tax despite driving the same number of miles on the same roads.

Our country must be in big trouble financially if the government is looking for ways like this to make money. Or the foxes have really taken over the henhouse and it’s the latest way to play Sheriff of Nottingham. We’re so in debt and fxked they now have to count our mileage and charge us? A century ago would they have charged someone an extra tax for owning two instead of one horse for their carriage?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, I support the proposals to make EV drivers pay their fair share for road upkeep. They may not be paying gas taxes, which is how we’ve funded these programs to date, but they are still using and benefiting from the roads and should be doing their part.

It's not about road upkeep.

I say that because they are also floating proposals to repeal the gas tax - which is for road upkeep. https://nypost.com/2026/05/11/us-news/trump-calls-for-suspension-of-federal-gas-tax-i-think-its-a-great-idea/

I think it actually is to punish EV drivers. Because they are deranged.

The evidence of their derangement is everywhere, like canceling wind power projects already under construction.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/28/trump-administration-wind-projects

In context, this really isn't defensible. It's weird, and deranged.

This. Not credible to claim it's about road upkeep. And, Republicans suck on energy policy. They claimed to be "all of the above" but then actively go out of their way to waste massive amounts of investments by forcing wind and solar projects to be canceled, for no good reason. Not to mention, creating the oil debacle with their ill-planned war on Iran.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing to do is to charge by mile for all cars and trucks. You could do this by annual inspections or use the existing surveillance systems set up by the police to calculate miles drives.

Some states have already started use license plate readers to calculate time and distance. If the calculation show you exceed the speed limit between to readers you are issued a ticket. So the technology is already there.

Maybe send out the bill quarterly for all cars- EV, gas, hydrogen, diesel, whatever.

What a horrible system. I doubt majority of Americans want to live in constant 24-7 surveillance state where even personal vehicle ownership and usage is tightly controlled by the government. I wonder how much of this nonsense people are willing to accept.

Also, I've driven through Italy which has this avg speed calculation system where they figure out if you were speeding based on how fast you get from one scanner to another. But this system is faulty too, because if you slow down anywhere in between the checkpoints your avg speed drops. It really doesn't prevent dangerous type of speeding that kills people, it's simply a fee extraction system for the naive. Someone can drive recklessly part of the way only to have to slow down due to traffic and will never get a ticket. Or they can make up the speed if they were stuck in traffic by speeding later, the avg. speed is still legit and won't result in a ticket, but they'd get there faster than if they followed posted speed all the way since they made up for the slowdown.

If it's about cost recovery to maintain road infrastructure the fairest way would be to get rid of the gas tax and replace it with an annual tax on vehicles based on vehicle weight - because that has one of the biggest impacts on roads.

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Trucks cause damage to roads and we all are subsidizing the trucking industry by building roads they use. 100 cars of whatever weight don’t cause the damage of one truck.

Unless you are going to start charging ICE vehicles for the pollution they emit it’s dumb to start charging passenger EVs for using roads (and yes some EVs are charged from fossil fuels but electricity generation at a plant is 100x cleaner than just burning fuel in your car).

This change is a sad confluence of R’s hating EVs and Dems looking for any money possible to fund public services but it’s terrible public policy. We should fund road building as a public good or else charge trucks for the damage they do but shifting the cost to low income Americans (who spend a greater share of income on the gas tax) and EV owners (who are cleaning up the air) is the worst solution.

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Anonymous wrote:They are seriously SICK. If you aren't outraged right now, I don't want to have anything to do with you.

What I don't understand is aren't elected MAGA and MAGA citizens concerned about getting cancer?!? Bankrupting their grandkids? Getting listeria? Their kids getting shot at school?

I just don't get it.

Ma'am, this is a Wendy's.

So you're for pollution, got it.

[Anonymous]

This is a US automakers and republicans tax. They hate EVs. The give away is charging plugin hybrid a 1/4 of the EV tax. Even the shitty hybrids available here can avoid the gas tax.

The thing is the US car industry wants to make hybrids because the manufacturing process is basically building an ICE car with a battery attached. In the rest of the world(84% of the car market) hybrid sales are collapsing. No one wants a hybrid.

In 3-5 years US automakers will be begging for government bailouts. I hope everyone remembers how they pushed through this tax and say no bailouts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only thing to do is to charge by mile for all cars and trucks. You could do this by annual inspections or use the existing surveillance systems set up by the police to calculate miles drives.

Some states have already started use license plate readers to calculate time and distance. If the calculation show you exceed the speed limit between to readers you are issued a ticket. So the technology is already there.

Maybe send out the bill quarterly for all cars- EV, gas, hydrogen, diesel, whatever.

What a horrible system. I doubt majority of Americans want to live in constant 24-7 surveillance state where even personal vehicle ownership and usage is tightly controlled by the government. I wonder how much of this nonsense people are willing to accept.

Also, I've driven through Italy which has this avg speed calculation system where they figure out if you were speeding based on how fast you get from one scanner to another. But this system is faulty too, because if you slow down anywhere in between the checkpoints your avg speed drops. It really doesn't prevent dangerous type of speeding that kills people, it's simply a fee extraction system for the naive. Someone can drive recklessly part of the way only to have to slow down due to traffic and will never get a ticket. Or they can make up the speed if they were stuck in traffic by speeding later, the avg. speed is still legit and won't result in a ticket, but they'd get there faster than if they followed posted speed all the way since they made up for the slowdown.

If it's about cost recovery to maintain road infrastructure the fairest way would be to get rid of the gas tax and replace it with an annual tax on vehicles based on vehicle weight - because that has one of the biggest impacts on roads.

It would have to be based on weight and miles driven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are seriously SICK. If you aren't outraged right now, I don't want to have anything to do with you.

What I don't understand is aren't elected MAGA and MAGA citizens concerned about getting cancer?!? Bankrupting their grandkids? Getting listeria? Their kids getting shot at school?

I just don't get it.

WhatvI don't understand is you creating boogeymen every 15 minutes to force taxation for your pet projects. I understand you have a nirvana in your mind. If you want it, YOU pay for it.

I seriously walk around all day with listeria on my brain. I close all the windows and shades in my house to protect from listeria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are seriously SICK. If you aren't outraged right now, I don't want to have anything to do with you.

What I don't understand is aren't elected MAGA and MAGA citizens concerned about getting cancer?!? Bankrupting their grandkids? Getting listeria? Their kids getting shot at school?

I just don't get it.

WhatvI don't understand is you creating boogeymen every 15 minutes to force taxation for your pet projects. I understand you have a nirvana in your mind. If you want it, YOU pay for it.

I seriously walk around all day with listeria on my brain. I close all the windows and shades in my house to protect from listeria.

You realize that this whole thread is about the GOP Congress increasing taxes on people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a US automakers and republicans tax. They hate EVs. The give away is charging plugin hybrid a 1/4 of the EV tax. Even the shitty hybrids available here can avoid the gas tax.

The thing is the US car industry wants to make hybrids because the manufacturing process is basically building an ICE car with a battery attached. In the rest of the world(84% of the car market) hybrid sales are collapsing. No one wants a hybrid.

In 3-5 years US automakers will be begging for government bailouts. I hope everyone remembers how they pushed through this tax and say no bailouts.

EVs can be easier in Europe, Japan etc because they don't have the big rural distances to cover. I'd love to get an EV but we do a lot of camping in remote places with no charging stations, plus have relatives on unpaved back roads where you absolutely need AWD in winter, and our current infrastructure makes gasoline still be a necessity to cover the distances.

[Anonymous]

Republicans are livid that EV owners are laughing at gas prices while Trump’s war bankrupts MAGAs driving gas guzzlers for miles on end all over rural ‘Merida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only thing to do is to charge by mile for all cars and trucks. You could do this by annual inspections or use the existing surveillance systems set up by the police to calculate miles drives.

Some states have already started use license plate readers to calculate time and distance. If the calculation show you exceed the speed limit between to readers you are issued a ticket. So the technology is already there.

Maybe send out the bill quarterly for all cars- EV, gas, hydrogen, diesel, whatever.

What a horrible system. I doubt majority of Americans want to live in constant 24-7 surveillance state where even personal vehicle ownership and usage is tightly controlled by the government. I wonder how much of this nonsense people are willing to accept.

Also, I've driven through Italy which has this avg speed calculation system where they figure out if you were speeding based on how fast you get from one scanner to another. But this system is faulty too, because if you slow down anywhere in between the checkpoints your avg speed drops. It really doesn't prevent dangerous type of speeding that kills people, it's simply a fee extraction system for the naive. Someone can drive recklessly part of the way only to have to slow down due to traffic and will never get a ticket. Or they can make up the speed if they were stuck in traffic by speeding later, the avg. speed is still legit and won't result in a ticket, but they'd get there faster than if they followed posted speed all the way since they made up for the slowdown.

Ah contrare, you'd be surprised at how little value people will accept in return for surveillance. Just having roads is likely good enough, but most people accept tracking just to have a cellphone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only thing to do is to charge by mile for all cars and trucks. You could do this by annual inspections or use the existing surveillance systems set up by the police to calculate miles drives.

Some states have already started use license plate readers to calculate time and distance. If the calculation show you exceed the speed limit between to readers you are issued a ticket. So the technology is already there.

Maybe send out the bill quarterly for all cars- EV, gas, hydrogen, diesel, whatever.

What a horrible system. I doubt majority of Americans want to live in constant 24-7 surveillance state where even personal vehicle ownership and usage is tightly controlled by the government. I wonder how much of this nonsense people are willing to accept.

Also, I've driven through Italy which has this avg speed calculation system where they figure out if you were speeding based on how fast you get from one scanner to another. But this system is faulty too, because if you slow down anywhere in between the checkpoints your avg speed drops. It really doesn't prevent dangerous type of speeding that kills people, it's simply a fee extraction system for the naive. Someone can drive recklessly part of the way only to have to slow down due to traffic and will never get a ticket. Or they can make up the speed if they were stuck in traffic by speeding later, the avg. speed is still legit and won't result in a ticket, but they'd get there faster than if they followed posted speed all the way since they made up for the slowdown.

Ah contrare, you'd be surprised at how little value people will accept in return for surveillance. Just having roads is likely good enough, but most people accept tracking just to have a cellphone.

This administration would obviously sell that information to insurance carriers to jack up rates.