Targets for "strong standard" kid interested in economics or cognitive science

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.


An opaque ranking system that puts San Diego State University (an R2 if I'm not mistaken) over Michigan is worthless. SDSU barely has a functional webpage for its Cog Sci department and the faculty are relatively obscure. Rochester on the other hand has a good sized Brain and Cog. Sci department and many of the faculty both national and international leaders in their fields. Case is borderline - very few core faculty.

Which site does this?
Anonymous
The correct phrase is "standard strong.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tufts
BC
Wake
Lehigh
Pitt
Northeastern
Bucknell


Not Tufts. That’s harder. Lafayette, GWU


NP I’d keep Tufts. Lafayette and GW are safeties. I’d add Tulane, Emory, Wisconsin, Richmond.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.


An opaque ranking system that puts San Diego State University (an R2 if I'm not mistaken) over Michigan is worthless. SDSU barely has a functional webpage for its Cog Sci department and the faculty are relatively obscure. Rochester on the other hand has a good sized Brain and Cog. Sci department and many of the faculty both national and international leaders in their fields. Case is borderline - very few core faculty.

Which site does this?


The scholargps site that the PP posted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.


An opaque ranking system that puts San Diego State University (an R2 if I'm not mistaken) over Michigan is worthless. SDSU barely has a functional webpage for its Cog Sci department and the faculty are relatively obscure. Rochester on the other hand has a good sized Brain and Cog. Sci department and many of the faculty both national and international leaders in their fields. Case is borderline - very few core faculty.


Just checked the website and it seems like a normal university page? Also faculty and resources are very clear? What’s your issue with SDSU? Also R1 doesn’t automatically mean they are exemplary at every subject. There are many R2s and liberal arts colleges with exemplary programs
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.


An opaque ranking system that puts San Diego State University (an R2 if I'm not mistaken) over Michigan is worthless. SDSU barely has a functional webpage for its Cog Sci department and the faculty are relatively obscure. Rochester on the other hand has a good sized Brain and Cog. Sci department and many of the faculty both national and international leaders in their fields. Case is borderline - very few core faculty.

Which site does this?


The scholargps site that the PP posted.

Thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.


An opaque ranking system that puts San Diego State University (an R2 if I'm not mistaken) over Michigan is worthless. SDSU barely has a functional webpage for its Cog Sci department and the faculty are relatively obscure. Rochester on the other hand has a good sized Brain and Cog. Sci department and many of the faculty both national and international leaders in their fields. Case is borderline - very few core faculty.


Just checked the website and it seems like a normal university page? Also faculty and resources are very clear? What’s your issue with SDSU? Also R1 doesn’t automatically mean they are exemplary at every subject. There are many R2s and liberal arts colleges with exemplary programs

+1, SDSU seems like a great program. I don’t know why pp made false claims of few faculty- it seems well resourced and like a good place to take advantage of opportunities.
Anonymous
This site can be helpful for organizing potential choices by likelihood of admission:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/admissions-counseling/college-selectivity/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP back--wow, thank you for all these comments! I haven't yet clicked on the links but will check them out. Honestly my kids is pretty unsure about major but cognitive science is one he's keen on. I think he likes how it blends philosophy and neuroscience to a degree, along with AI for students interested in that. He kind of leans STEM but isn't hard STEM, if that makes sense.

I know that when considering schools of any category it's important to assess their strength in majors of interest, which is why I mentioned these two possibilities. Pitt is definitely on our list. Isn't BU more of a reach? I know that Tufts is. He would probably not be applying to any of his targets ED but will show lots of demonstrated interest for the schools that value that. He is really resisting smaller schools though I know there could be many strong options here, but he isn't interested.

Additional ideas are welcome!


Tufts ED1
BU ED2?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.


An opaque ranking system that puts San Diego State University (an R2 if I'm not mistaken) over Michigan is worthless. SDSU barely has a functional webpage for its Cog Sci department and the faculty are relatively obscure. Rochester on the other hand has a good sized Brain and Cog. Sci department and many of the faculty both national and international leaders in their fields. Case is borderline - very few core faculty.


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I don't see how one can call it opaque when they give you the equations
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Michigan, Penn State, UMass, Alabama, Kentucky, Arizona
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Are we supposed to know what "strong standard" means? Is that a B student? A C+ student?
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Anonymous wrote:Are we supposed to know what "strong standard" means? Is that a B student? A C+ student?

Agreed this is all just a bit too vague. Disliking the college transitions booster.
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Such a strange phrase to use. Just list the gpa/sat.
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GPA is 3.9UW/4.5W; SAT 1510; highest rigor at a private school.
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