Targets for "strong standard" kid interested in economics or cognitive science

[Anonymous]

Boston University ED. Great for Econ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a comment on your son's tentative choices, URochester and CWRU offer excellent programs in cognitive science, and may be difficult to beat academically while also considering your broader criteria.

Rochester for cognitive science? That’s a strange choice.

Also a poor choice for economics. I’m don’t see anything online suggesting it’s a first rate program. Wonder why PP mentioned these two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a "strong standard" boy (junior) who is trying to flesh out his college list a bit. We are looking for target-ish schools that might be a good fit. He's most interested in mid-size to medium-large schools in the East Coast, Mid-Atlantic, or Midwest. Really likes William & Mary. We're also considering Case and U Rochester but I don't know as much about them and we haven't visited yet (planning to). Are there others to consider that are roughly in this category of percentage admitted and average stats for admitted students? He's not sure what he wants to do after college right now, but considering law school.

Case and Rochester both give merit, so the COA will be lower. Sometimes Case gives as much as 50K merit.
You probably are not interested in LACs, but Grinnell and Macalester also give generous merit to high stats kids.

[Anonymous]

For cognitive science major, is it worth 90-100k COA? I don't think so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a "strong standard" boy (junior) who is trying to flesh out his college list a bit. We are looking for target-ish schools that might be a good fit. He's most interested in mid-size to medium-large schools in the East Coast, Mid-Atlantic, or Midwest. Really likes William & Mary. We're also considering Case and U Rochester but I don't know as much about them and we haven't visited yet (planning to). Are there others to consider that are roughly in this category of percentage admitted and average stats for admitted students? He's not sure what he wants to do after college right now, but considering law school.

Case and Rochester both give merit, so the COA will be lower. Sometimes Case gives as much as 50K merit.
You probably are not interested in LACs, but Grinnell and Macalester also give generous merit to high stats kids.

Mentions two colleges that have nothing to do with the conversation and do not have majors in cognitive science. The boosters are getting worse.

[Anonymous]

Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What IS "cognitive science"?
Is this the same as "neuroscience"?

What specific jobs does this lead to?

I am confused.

Someone doesn’t understand a liberal arts education.

Not at all. English majors often become writers or reporters or work for publishers. History majors often teach or become intel analysts. Lots of liberal arts jobs, but what is this thing...

"Cognitive Science" either must be something new or something renamed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What IS "cognitive science"?
Is this the same as "neuroscience"?

What specific jobs does this lead to?

I am confused.

Someone doesn’t understand a liberal arts education.

Not at all. English majors often become writers or reporters or work for publishers. History majors often teach or become intel analysts. Lots of liberal arts jobs, but what is this thing...

"Cognitive Science" either must be something new or something renamed.

cognitive science has been a field since the 50s, so, unless you’re older than 70…


It’s cognitive science. Google is free and takes more time than making shit posts on dcum. Knowledge is good!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

College transitions Methodology is not about academic quality. It’s a ranking of graduation rates and salary, which is mostly locale and choices, not having much at all to do with the college itself. I wish people stopped posting this poor source as fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a "strong standard" boy (junior) who is trying to flesh out his college list a bit. We are looking for target-ish schools that might be a good fit. He's most interested in mid-size to medium-large schools in the East Coast, Mid-Atlantic, or Midwest. Really likes William & Mary. We're also considering Case and U Rochester but I don't know as much about them and we haven't visited yet (planning to). Are there others to consider that are roughly in this category of percentage admitted and average stats for admitted students? He's not sure what he wants to do after college right now, but considering law school.

Case and Rochester both give merit, so the COA will be lower. Sometimes Case gives as much as 50K merit.
You probably are not interested in LACs, but Grinnell and Macalester also give generous merit to high stats kids.

Mentions two colleges that have nothing to do with the conversation and do not have majors in cognitive science. The boosters are getting worse.

Of course they do!
https://case.edu/artsci/cognitivescience/
https://www.sas.rochester.edu/bcs/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

It’s hard to take seriously a list where Swarthmore is ranked in the top 20 and it has a program, not a department, in cognitive science with very few members of the program dedicated to cognitive science. At some point, the disingenuous nature of these posts needs to be called out.

Here’s an accurate source that is about scholarly production and impact in academia, not just some nonsensical parent list: https://scholargps.com/specialties/35745424963533/cognitive-neuroscience

You’ll note that there’s many programs that are far superior to Rochester and Case Western.

That's an odd list of schools for a parent to work with. Lots of European schools then unlikely schools for an East Coaster. Like University of Oregon and University of New Mexico.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

College transitions Methodology is not about academic quality. It’s a ranking of graduation rates and salary, which is mostly locale and choices, not having much at all to do with the college itself. I wish people stopped posting this poor source as fact.

As I said, there appears to be a high school student on the thread. Those who spend just a few minutes will see that College Transitions considers aspects such as major emphasis, major share, academic rating and peer assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a "strong standard" boy (junior) who is trying to flesh out his college list a bit. We are looking for target-ish schools that might be a good fit. He's most interested in mid-size to medium-large schools in the East Coast, Mid-Atlantic, or Midwest. Really likes William & Mary. We're also considering Case and U Rochester but I don't know as much about them and we haven't visited yet (planning to). Are there others to consider that are roughly in this category of percentage admitted and average stats for admitted students? He's not sure what he wants to do after college right now, but considering law school.

Case and Rochester both give merit, so the COA will be lower. Sometimes Case gives as much as 50K merit.
You probably are not interested in LACs, but Grinnell and Macalester also give generous merit to high stats kids.

Mentions two colleges that have nothing to do with the conversation and do not have majors in cognitive science. The boosters are getting worse.

Of course they do!
https://case.edu/artsci/cognitivescience/
https://www.sas.rochester.edu/bcs/

Why are you not mentioning Grinnell and macalester- which was what was commented on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there appears to be a high school student on the thread, I'll address the OP directly. Although my comment on the CogSci programs of URochester and Case Western was based largely on knowledge of these schools, this site may be of interest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-for-cognitive-science/

For the undergraduate study of cognitive science, it ranks URochester 12th nationally and Case Western Reserve 26th.

College transitions Methodology is not about academic quality. It’s a ranking of graduation rates and salary, which is mostly locale and choices, not having much at all to do with the college itself. I wish people stopped posting this poor source as fact.

As I said, there appears to be a high school student on the thread. Those who spend just a few minutes will see that College Transitions considers aspects such as major emphasis, major share, academic rating and peer assessment.

we analyzed institution- and program-level data collected by the National Center for Education Statistics as reported by IPEDS, salary and other outcomes collected by PayScale and College Scorecard.

That is not what you just said. Can you explain this disparity?