Should TJ student transfer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kid will have a high, 1550+ SAT based on PSAT. The issue is not the intelligence.

How much do senior mid year grades matter for RD? There is a chance of a 4.5 mid year (but only with stellar grades.)

So realistically, his GPA after the junior year will be in the range of 4.3-4.4? This GPA is not low. There’s another TJ mom who posted his son’s (with similar SAT score and GPA) college outcomes on here: he got into a number of great colleges, including UNC oos, which has an acceptance rate of ~6%! But getting into UVA would be very difficult.

Could you provide the link to that thread?

It’s not one particular thread, but she’s pretty active in various threads following the EA and RD decision dates. She might have posted on this thread as well?

I think I know who you mean. 1580 sat, shut out of all ivies (inc Brown where older sib is with lower stats) and UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pick a non-STEM major and create MAJOR alignment now. at least 3 ECs should support major.

Engineering or computer science? Those are the most competitive at VT. (I think!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should my low GPA TJ kid, rising junior, transfer to a school where they can stand out more? FCCPS. My worry is that their low gpa will considered worse if they go to a school with inflated gpa.

A top school is already out of the question.
If you wanted a chance at that you should have pulled your kid from TJ before the end of first semester freshman year or better yet turn down the acceptance so he has the confidence of having gotten into TJ without the cost of dealing with TJ rigor.
I know it would have been emotionally difficult, but FCPS lied to you and your kid. They didn't have the training that the other kids at TJ had.

Your decisions really depend on the GPA.

Look at Naviance for VT

If they have a weighted GPA above 4.3, its almost 99%+
If their weighted GPA is above a 4.0, they have a pretty good shot at VT 90%+; add a 1500 SAT score to that and your chances increase to 99%+

How low is the GPA? What is their projected SAT score (how did they do on the PSAT)?

If your GPA is sub 4.0 anbd projected SAT is sub 1500, then

JMU will take almost any TJ student above a 3.5 (don't biff the application -essay and recommendations)
GMU will take almost any TJ student with a GPA above a 3 (don't biff the application)

Where do you hope your kid will go from base school?

Not op but ..
My kid has a 4.1 weighted gpa with 1530 SAT but didn’t get into Vtech this year.

(Accidentally posted this in another response, apologies.)

Engineering or computer science? Those are the most competitive at VT. (I think!)

[Anonymous]

It'll be fine. If he wants to stay at TJ let him stay. If he doesn't that's another story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It'll be fine. If he wants to stay at TJ let him stay. If he doesn't that's another story.

He would prefer to stay but wants to get into the best college he can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pick a non-STEM major and create MAJOR alignment now. at least 3 ECs should support major.

Engineering or computer science? Those are the most competitive at VT. (I think!)

Those would be stem majors. I would avoid them like the plague.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'll be fine. If he wants to stay at TJ let him stay. If he doesn't that's another story.

He would prefer to stay but wants to get into the best college he can.

If he is a rising junior, the ship may have sailed depending on what he is thinking of as far as "best college." Meaning, ask the college counselor there because if it is likely already out of reach no matter what, then transferring or not means nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'll be fine. If he wants to stay at TJ let him stay. If he doesn't that's another story.

He would prefer to stay but wants to get into the best college he can.

Wouldn’t it be more productive to work hard on his junior and senior years instead?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should my low GPA TJ kid, rising junior, transfer to a school where they can stand out more? FCCPS. My worry is that their low gpa will considered worse if they go to a school with inflated gpa.

Honestly being a TJ Senior parent - low GPA at TJ is very subjective. Everybody will be happy when kid gets into TJ and thinks they end up at MIT / Harvard when the reality is completely different unless you are at the top 10% of TJ with GPA over 4.6. Most of TJ kids end up in regular schools not top 20.

At TJ because of its intense competition, GPA 4.35 is considered top 1/3rd of the class unfortunately from what school counselors said. What GPA are you referring to here?. Low GPA from TJ won't even get you into UVA or VT. If you change school, you will have to explain in the Common App additional information section why school change was made in Junior year to give admission officers context why the change was made.

According to Naviance, Harvard and MIT are the only schools where the GPA of the average admit is above 4.6.
A 4.6 GPA is extremely difficult.
If your GPA is above 4.6 and your SAT is 1570 or higher, you've got pretty close to a 25% chance at Harvard from TJ.

Almost everybody from TJ gets into VT.

Sourcr?

Naviance.

Naviance cannot tell you this. You have no idea if it was ecs, essays, hooks, etc. plus naviance in fcps is an average of more than one year’s worth of info.

So dumb you make that claim.

I was responding to the ridiculous notion that these schools are unrealistic unless you have a 4.6 GPA. 4.6 is the average GPA of accepted students. About half of the accepted students have lower GPAs. Sure it's rare but it's not crazy rare. Did you think I was saying that all you needed was a GPA and SAT score, WTF is wrong with you?

The statistics are the statistics. 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted. I'm sure some of them have cracked ECs or they are hooked but there is no reason to believe they are hooked more frequently than those with lower GPA/SATs or that they have significantly better ECs than those with lower GPAs/SATs.

And it doesn't hurt that naviance is more than 1 year's worth of info, more datapoints just makes it more valid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'll be fine. If he wants to stay at TJ let him stay. If he doesn't that's another story.

He would prefer to stay but wants to get into the best college he can.

We need a GPA. Round it to the nearest 10th and it won't be identifying.

In all likelihood, he is probably locked out of top schools no matter what.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should my low GPA TJ kid, rising junior, transfer to a school where they can stand out more? FCCPS. My worry is that their low gpa will considered worse if they go to a school with inflated gpa.

Honestly being a TJ Senior parent - low GPA at TJ is very subjective. Everybody will be happy when kid gets into TJ and thinks they end up at MIT / Harvard when the reality is completely different unless you are at the top 10% of TJ with GPA over 4.6. Most of TJ kids end up in regular schools not top 20.

At TJ because of its intense competition, GPA 4.35 is considered top 1/3rd of the class unfortunately from what school counselors said. What GPA are you referring to here?. Low GPA from TJ won't even get you into UVA or VT. If you change school, you will have to explain in the Common App additional information section why school change was made in Junior year to give admission officers context why the change was made.

According to Naviance, Harvard and MIT are the only schools where the GPA of the average admit is above 4.6.
A 4.6 GPA is extremely difficult.
If your GPA is above 4.6 and your SAT is 1570 or higher, you've got pretty close to a 25% chance at Harvard from TJ.

Almost everybody from TJ gets into VT.

Sourcr?

Naviance.

Naviance cannot tell you this. You have no idea if it was ecs, essays, hooks, etc. plus naviance in fcps is an average of more than one year’s worth of info.

So dumb you make that claim.

I was responding to the ridiculous notion that these schools are unrealistic unless you have a 4.6 GPA. 4.6 is the average GPA of accepted students. About half of the accepted students have lower GPAs. Sure it's rare but it's not crazy rare. Did you think I was saying that all you needed was a GPA and SAT score, WTF is wrong with you?

The statistics are the statistics. 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted. I'm sure some of them have cracked ECs or they are hooked but there is no reason to believe they are hooked more frequently than those with lower GPA/SATs or that they have significantly better ECs than those with lower GPAs/SATs.

And it doesn't hurt that naviance is more than 1 year's worth of info, more datapoints just makes it more valid.

Where is this statistic: 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should my low GPA TJ kid, rising junior, transfer to a school where they can stand out more? FCCPS. My worry is that their low gpa will considered worse if they go to a school with inflated gpa.

Honestly being a TJ Senior parent - low GPA at TJ is very subjective. Everybody will be happy when kid gets into TJ and thinks they end up at MIT / Harvard when the reality is completely different unless you are at the top 10% of TJ with GPA over 4.6. Most of TJ kids end up in regular schools not top 20.

At TJ because of its intense competition, GPA 4.35 is considered top 1/3rd of the class unfortunately from what school counselors said. What GPA are you referring to here?. Low GPA from TJ won't even get you into UVA or VT. If you change school, you will have to explain in the Common App additional information section why school change was made in Junior year to give admission officers context why the change was made.

According to Naviance, Harvard and MIT are the only schools where the GPA of the average admit is above 4.6.
A 4.6 GPA is extremely difficult.
If your GPA is above 4.6 and your SAT is 1570 or higher, you've got pretty close to a 25% chance at Harvard from TJ.

Almost everybody from TJ gets into VT.

Sourcr?

Naviance.

Naviance cannot tell you this. You have no idea if it was ecs, essays, hooks, etc. plus naviance in fcps is an average of more than one year’s worth of info.

So dumb you make that claim.

I was responding to the ridiculous notion that these schools are unrealistic unless you have a 4.6 GPA. 4.6 is the average GPA of accepted students. About half of the accepted students have lower GPAs. Sure it's rare but it's not crazy rare. Did you think I was saying that all you needed was a GPA and SAT score, WTF is wrong with you?

The statistics are the statistics. 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted. I'm sure some of them have cracked ECs or they are hooked but there is no reason to believe they are hooked more frequently than those with lower GPA/SATs or that they have significantly better ECs than those with lower GPAs/SATs.

And it doesn't hurt that naviance is more than 1 year's worth of info, more datapoints just makes it more valid.

Please don’t listen to people like this. 🤦‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should my low GPA TJ kid, rising junior, transfer to a school where they can stand out more? FCCPS. My worry is that their low gpa will considered worse if they go to a school with inflated gpa.

Honestly being a TJ Senior parent - low GPA at TJ is very subjective. Everybody will be happy when kid gets into TJ and thinks they end up at MIT / Harvard when the reality is completely different unless you are at the top 10% of TJ with GPA over 4.6. Most of TJ kids end up in regular schools not top 20.

At TJ because of its intense competition, GPA 4.35 is considered top 1/3rd of the class unfortunately from what school counselors said. What GPA are you referring to here?. Low GPA from TJ won't even get you into UVA or VT. If you change school, you will have to explain in the Common App additional information section why school change was made in Junior year to give admission officers context why the change was made.

According to Naviance, Harvard and MIT are the only schools where the GPA of the average admit is above 4.6.
A 4.6 GPA is extremely difficult.
If your GPA is above 4.6 and your SAT is 1570 or higher, you've got pretty close to a 25% chance at Harvard from TJ.

Almost everybody from TJ gets into VT.

Sourcr?

Naviance.

Naviance cannot tell you this. You have no idea if it was ecs, essays, hooks, etc. plus naviance in fcps is an average of more than one year’s worth of info.

So dumb you make that claim.

I was responding to the ridiculous notion that these schools are unrealistic unless you have a 4.6 GPA. 4.6 is the average GPA of accepted students. About half of the accepted students have lower GPAs. Sure it's rare but it's not crazy rare. Did you think I was saying that all you needed was a GPA and SAT score, WTF is wrong with you?

The statistics are the statistics. 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted. I'm sure some of them have cracked ECs or they are hooked but there is no reason to believe they are hooked more frequently than those with lower GPA/SATs or that they have significantly better ECs than those with lower GPAs/SATs.

And it doesn't hurt that naviance is more than 1 year's worth of info, more datapoints just makes it more valid.

Where is this statistic: 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted.

Not PP. But perhaps she has access to TJ’s Scoir data? I personally believe that a student in the top 5% of TJ has a good chance of getting into HYPSM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should my low GPA TJ kid, rising junior, transfer to a school where they can stand out more? FCCPS. My worry is that their low gpa will considered worse if they go to a school with inflated gpa.

Honestly being a TJ Senior parent - low GPA at TJ is very subjective. Everybody will be happy when kid gets into TJ and thinks they end up at MIT / Harvard when the reality is completely different unless you are at the top 10% of TJ with GPA over 4.6. Most of TJ kids end up in regular schools not top 20.

At TJ because of its intense competition, GPA 4.35 is considered top 1/3rd of the class unfortunately from what school counselors said. What GPA are you referring to here?. Low GPA from TJ won't even get you into UVA or VT. If you change school, you will have to explain in the Common App additional information section why school change was made in Junior year to give admission officers context why the change was made.

According to Naviance, Harvard and MIT are the only schools where the GPA of the average admit is above 4.6.
A 4.6 GPA is extremely difficult.
If your GPA is above 4.6 and your SAT is 1570 or higher, you've got pretty close to a 25% chance at Harvard from TJ.

Almost everybody from TJ gets into VT.

Sourcr?

Naviance.

Naviance cannot tell you this. You have no idea if it was ecs, essays, hooks, etc. plus naviance in fcps is an average of more than one year’s worth of info.

So dumb you make that claim.

I was responding to the ridiculous notion that these schools are unrealistic unless you have a 4.6 GPA. 4.6 is the average GPA of accepted students. About half of the accepted students have lower GPAs. Sure it's rare but it's not crazy rare. Did you think I was saying that all you needed was a GPA and SAT score, WTF is wrong with you?

The statistics are the statistics. 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted. I'm sure some of them have cracked ECs or they are hooked but there is no reason to believe they are hooked more frequently than those with lower GPA/SATs or that they have significantly better ECs than those with lower GPAs/SATs.

And it doesn't hurt that naviance is more than 1 year's worth of info, more datapoints just makes it more valid.

Where is this statistic: 25% of Harvard applicants with a 4.6 GPA or higher and a 1570 SAT or higher get accepted.

Not PP. But perhaps she has access to TJ’s Scoir data? I personally believe that a student in the top 5% of TJ has a good chance of getting into HYPSM.

“A” student possibly getting in is completely different from all kids with a 4.6 or higher gpa + 1570 have a 25% chance of admission based on stats only. Poster said it was from Naviance. This statement is false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It'll be fine. If he wants to stay at TJ let him stay. If he doesn't that's another story.

He would prefer to stay but wants to get into the best college he can.

We need a GPA. Round it to the nearest 10th and it won't be identifying.

In all likelihood, he is probably locked out of top schools no matter what.

Let's be clear, with <4% acceptance rates everyone is locked out of top schools. It's a lottery even with a "perfect" profile. I say this as a MIT alum