$424,084 in Teacher salaries going to EV bus company instead

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a good idea to go full EV right now, unless you want those buses filling up at $6 per gallon this fall.

Did you do the math? Diesel $16M a year, EV $32M a year.

Even with gas costs, it’s cheaper. How much do they pay in gas vs electricity?

Either way they pay to run them.

Not even close. EV is way more. Did you forget the EV contract award was rigged?

I don't really care either way, but some people don't want diesel engines near them. Janis presumably wants more EV buses based on her fear of diesel engines, for instance.

Then drive your kids in your electric vehicle that needs electricity generated which is equally bad yourself. If the ev buses made financial sense, great, but they don’t. The bus for us doesn’t always come on cold days.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. Teachers make enough already.

What an odd comment to make.

I am not the PP, but a 15 year teacher makes a minimum of $108,000. If you think that's insufficient, what to you think would be appropriate?

If it takes 15 years to make 6 figures then you figure it out big brain. Another idiot comment.

The median income for someone with a humanities/liberal arts degree in the DC metro area is $87k. $108k isn't bad, especially when you throw in another $5-10k for summer employment.

Where are you buying a house in MoCo with a family on that salary? Get real. Teachers don’t go into the field to get rich. Stop bringing up their salaries. It’s the idiots in charge who mess everything up. Leave the teachers out of it.

Did you miss the title of the thread?

Again. LEAVE THE TEACHERS OUT OF IT. They don't control salaries in any way, shape, or form. No negotiations. Nothing. The OP wrote the title. If you have a problem with MCPS and teacher salaries, look to CO. Stop going to the people at the bottom of the totem pole because they are the most accessible. That is lazy.

Huh? I don't understand this reaction. Any discussion of teacher pay-- on a thread that talks about teacher pay in the title-- is an attack on teachers?

Did you read the article or nah. Stop associating teacher salaries with everything MCPS. Article just stated the amount. OP trying to start fights by associating waste with salaries. And then other people have to chime in with why they make too much. It’s old and tiresome.

The OP brought up salaries. But no one is saying salaries are waste.

"$424,084 in Teacher salaries going to EV bus company instead"

"This is where Taylor spends teacher salaries. This is the MCPS operating budget. This is money that could be paying teachers."

You should work on your reading comprehension.

Again. OP is making their own story. Stop being flippant. Or are you also another jerk who loves to throw teachers into every story too. Stick to the facts if you post.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. Teachers make enough already.

What an odd comment to make.

I am not the PP, but a 15 year teacher makes a minimum of $108,000. If you think that's insufficient, what to you think would be appropriate?

If it takes 15 years to make 6 figures then you figure it out big brain. Another idiot comment.

The median income for someone with a humanities/liberal arts degree in the DC metro area is $87k. $108k isn't bad, especially when you throw in another $5-10k for summer employment.

Where are you buying a house in MoCo with a family on that salary? Get real. Teachers don’t go into the field to get rich. Stop bringing up their salaries. It’s the idiots in charge who mess everything up. Leave the teachers out of it.

Did you miss the title of the thread?

Again. LEAVE THE TEACHERS OUT OF IT. They don't control salaries in any way, shape, or form. No negotiations. Nothing. The OP wrote the title. If you have a problem with MCPS and teacher salaries, look to CO. Stop going to the people at the bottom of the totem pole because they are the most accessible. That is lazy.

Huh? I don't understand this reaction. Any discussion of teacher pay-- on a thread that talks about teacher pay in the title-- is an attack on teachers?

Did you read the article or nah. Stop associating teacher salaries with everything MCPS. Article just stated the amount. OP trying to start fights by associating waste with salaries. And then other people have to chime in with why they make too much. It’s old and tiresome.

The OP brought up salaries. But no one is saying salaries are waste.

"$424,084 in Teacher salaries going to EV bus company instead"

"This is where Taylor spends teacher salaries. This is the MCPS operating budget. This is money that could be paying teachers."

You should work on your reading comprehension.

Again. OP is making their own story. Stop being flippant. Or are you also another jerk who loves to throw teachers into every story too. Stick to the facts if you post.

Most schools could use more teachers, and I suspect what they meant is either give teachers raises, which they do get regularly or use it to hire more staff. It would make more sense to have more teachers, para's, support staff and security guards over electric buses. Ideal would be electric buses but the cost/benefit is not there.

[Anonymous]

PC doesn't seem to understand the basic facts of the situation?

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/01/31/mcps-partially-terminates-electric-bus-contract/?hl=en-US#

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Anonymous wrote:Good. Teachers make enough already.

The federal government disagrees with that. My kid gets a Pell grant due to my low income.

- a teacher with 14 years of teaching experience

One has nothing to do with the other. Teachers make good money compared to equal jobs and education in county government.

You can get jobs in the county government without a college degree. This is not the case for teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:This is where Taylor spends teacher salaries. This is the MCPS operating budget. This is money that could be paying teachers.

https://parentscoalitionmd.substack.com/p/taylor-hides-424084-increase-in-electric

How much money would it cost to break the lease and replace the EV buses?

The contract expired in 2022.

Care to share any evidence?

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Anonymous wrote:This is where Taylor spends teacher salaries. This is the MCPS operating budget. This is money that could be paying teachers.

https://parentscoalitionmd.substack.com/p/taylor-hides-424084-increase-in-electric

Oh my God, Taylor is paying an agreed upon contracted amount signed years before his tenure. Scandalous!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a good idea to go full EV right now, unless you want those buses filling up at $6 per gallon this fall.

Did you do the math? Diesel $16M a year, EV $32M a year.

Even with gas costs, it’s cheaper. How much do they pay in gas vs electricity?

Either way they pay to run them.

Not even close. EV is way more. Did you forget the EV contract award was rigged?

I don't really care either way, but some people don't want diesel engines near them. Janis presumably wants more EV buses based on her fear of diesel engines, for instance.

Then drive your kids in your electric vehicle that needs electricity generated which is equally bad yourself. If the ev buses made financial sense, great, but they don’t. The bus for us doesn’t always come on cold days.

"Equally bad" while we're in the middle of a war over oil right now"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. Teachers make enough already.

The federal government disagrees with that. My kid gets a Pell grant due to my low income.

- a teacher with 14 years of teaching experience

One has nothing to do with the other. Teachers make good money compared to equal jobs and education in county government.

You can get jobs in the county government without a college degree. This is not the case for teachers.

By all means go be a firefighter, bus driver or correctional officer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is where Taylor spends teacher salaries. This is the MCPS operating budget. This is money that could be paying teachers.

https://parentscoalitionmd.substack.com/p/taylor-hides-424084-increase-in-electric

Oh my God, Taylor is paying an agreed upon contracted amount signed years before his tenure. Scandalous!!!

The contract already expired. The contract has also been ruled illegal. Taylor is in court fighting to keep an illegal expired contract.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. Teachers make enough already.

The federal government disagrees with that. My kid gets a Pell grant due to my low income.

- a teacher with 14 years of teaching experience

One has nothing to do with the other. Teachers make good money compared to equal jobs and education in county government.

You can get jobs in the county government without a college degree. This is not the case for teachers.

Then they aren't teachers, but are things like secretarys, para's and other support jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a good idea to go full EV right now, unless you want those buses filling up at $6 per gallon this fall.

Did you do the math? Diesel $16M a year, EV $32M a year.

Even with gas costs, it’s cheaper. How much do they pay in gas vs electricity?

Either way they pay to run them.

Not even close. EV is way more. Did you forget the EV contract award was rigged?

I don't really care either way, but some people don't want diesel engines near them. Janis presumably wants more EV buses based on her fear of diesel engines, for instance.

Then drive your kids in your electric vehicle that needs electricity generated which is equally bad yourself. If the ev buses made financial sense, great, but they don’t. The bus for us doesn’t always come on cold days.

"Equally bad" while we're in the middle of a war over oil right now"

You have to look at the cost/benefit and the technology isn't fully there yet as the cost.